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"- " Welcome everybody!

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For today's webinar we're pleased that you're joining us.

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And, I wanted to let you know that today's
webinar is hosted

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by the NOAA Office of National Marine Sanctuaries.

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We're super excited today because this presentation

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on plastics in the ocean has a huge
number of registrants for us.

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We have nearly

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seven-hundred people that have registered for today's webinar,

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which is exciting.

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I'm gonna do a quick shout out that we should have thirty students

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from the MIT Academy in Vallejo, California participating.

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If you're there, hello! Welcome!

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We have 20 students from Fullerton College in a room.

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And some of our friends at Aquarium of the Bay are also participating together,

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and maybe some of
the others of you as well!

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So we wanted to say welcome,

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and we're very excited
for today's topic.

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Now, let me just give you a little snapshot

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of the National Marine Sanctuary system.

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You're looking at a map of it right now.

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So I work for
the NOAA Office of National marine sanctuaries,

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and I'm one of the two
hundred and plus employees

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that are trustees for this system of underwater parks.

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This network of special ocean areas

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that are set aside to protect for
now and future generations.

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So this network here that you're looking at

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is over six hundred thousand square miles

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of ocean and great lake treasures.

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You can see from the map

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that there's five along the west coast.

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California alone has four.

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We have a couple in the Hawaiian Islands

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including the Papahānaumokuākea Marine
National Monument.

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We have one in the South Pacific in American Samoa,

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which is now our country's largest National Marine Sanctuary.

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And we have a scattering of them along the

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West, excuse me, East Coast and Gulf of Mexico,

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and even a Sweetwater

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Sanctuary in Alpena, Michigan in Lake Huron.

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So, these places are very special.

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They're primarily set aside by Congress.

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And these marine environments either have special conservation value,

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ecological, historical, recreational, aesthetic qualities

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that makes them
important to protect like, like a

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national park but underwater.

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And we like to call these places our living classrooms,

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these National Marine
Sanctuaries, are living classrooms where

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people can see, touch, and learn about
these ocean and Great Lakes treasures.

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So, let me introduce myself.

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My name is Claire Fackler,

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and I am the National Education Liaison

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for the NOAA Office of
National Marine Sanctuaries,

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I'm one of those trustees.

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And, we greatly appreciate any feedback

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you have on today's webinar to help improve the experience.

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Since we have such a large audience today,

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it's very exciting.

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At the end of today's
presentation,

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we do have a very short evaluation

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that would take you 2 to 3 minutes to complete.

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And gathering this information is extremely important for us.

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So, we'd love for you to take those 2 or 3 minutes

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to answer those questions.

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Now, a little bit about today's webinar.

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All attendees will be in listen-only
mode,

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so you actually don't have control of your mute and unmute.

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That way, with so
many participants,

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we don't have unnecessary background noise.

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If you have any questions,

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you can type them into the question box,

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and either I will respond
to them or we will save them for

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our presenter at the end of her presentation.

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If we don't get to all of the questions,

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we'll most certainly have Ms. Robuck

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respond in a follow-up email to all the participants.

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If you're having any technical issues,

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it's in the same question box that you can type in your issues,

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and I, on the back end, will try to resolve them

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while our presenter is speaking.

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So, we are recording today's session.

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We will be sharing the recording
with all registered participants,

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and it also will live on our web page

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as an archive that's available to anybody.

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You know, we do bring this webinar series

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to the public free of charge,

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and we primarily target formal and
informal educators,

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or other interested parties.

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So, you don't have to be a teacher

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or an informal educator to participate,

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but that is our target audience.

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And, we're always looking for ways to bring

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relevant science topics to these
audiences

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to then share with their classrooms or facilities.

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So, with that,

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I will go ahead and introduce our presenter today.

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We are fortunate to have
Anna Robuck.

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She's a PhD candidate in Oceanography

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from the University of Rhode Island

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Graduate School of Oceanography in the Lohmann lab.

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She's also one of our Dr. Nancy Foster scholars,

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which is a pretty coveted graduate student scholarship program.

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She is broadly interested in how human
pollutants impact

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trophic ecology and organism function.

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Ms. Robuck is particularly interested in seabirds

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as study subjects

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due to their sensitivity to human stressors

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like chemicals and plastics.

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Now, as a Foster Scholar,

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her dissertation work explores the transport and

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fate of legacy and emerging persistent organic pollutants,

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also known as pops,

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in coastal and open ocean ecosystems,

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while also examining the

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plastic ingestion in great sheer waters,

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which is a type of seabird found in the Gulf of Maine,

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and elsewhere.

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Prior to enrolling at University of Rhode Island,

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Ms. Robuck earned her master's
degree

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studying tidal creek and coastal water quality

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in the Aquatic Ecology Lab

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at the University of North Caroline,

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Carolina,

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Wilmington.

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And while pursuing her master's,

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she has worked as an intern

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for the city of Wilmington, North Carolina

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and as a research technician

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in support of the Lower Cape Fear River
Program.

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And she credits these specific opportunities

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as vital maturation and learning experiences

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that serve to reinforce how ultimately,

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or sorry,

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how intimately the health of aquatic systems

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is tied to adjacent human communities
and inputs.

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So, Ms. Robuck also earned her bachelor's at UNC Wilmington

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exploring the chemical ecology of invertebrates

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via an undergraduate honors program.

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So, with that,

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I'm going to turn the presentation over to our featured guests,

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Anna Robuck.

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So, welcome Anna!

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"- " Hi everyone!

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How's it going?

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I'm going to share my screen with you now.

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Great!

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Looks like we are good to go.

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So, thank you for that kind introduction
Claire.

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I'm really excited to be here with you all today

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to talk a little bit about plastics.

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Hopefully, we'll cover some of the basics of this huge topic.

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As well, I have kind of an interesting end piece for you all.

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I work primarily with plastics and birds,

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so I have a bird here to my right,

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out of view right now,

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but I'm, choping, hoping to show you how I

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necropsy these birds to get at the
plastic in their GI tract

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at the end of this presentation.

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So, with that,

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I will give you a heads up when I do turn to the bird.

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It is a dead bird that has been
cut open.

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There it is some blood involved with that.

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I'll offer some cues about
when I'm doing that,

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so you can either turn off your screen or close your eyes.

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I'll let you know when we're done with that as well,

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so in case you don't want to see that part of the presentation.

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With that, let's get started!

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Here we go.

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So, we'll get started by talking about

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ocean plastics, just in general.

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We'll talk about where they come from and how much are there.

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From there, we're going to talk about

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specifically plastics and seabirds,

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my particular study subjects.

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And then we'll wrap up with some resources

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about plastic pollution.

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Today, we're only gonna cover a tiny sliver of all the

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literature and scientific knowledge
related to this topic,

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so I provide you with some resources at
the end.

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But first of all,

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I'd like to hear from all of you,

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to get a handle on where we are with plastic pollution.

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So right now,

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I'd like you to respond about
your recycling habits.

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Do you recycle?

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Is it yes, no, sometimes?

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"- " Alright I'll go ahead and launch the poll questions

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so that you can actually just
click on your vote here,

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and we'll get a quick tally.

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Alright, over half of you
have voted in the quick poll.

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And if it's easier for you,

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you can also type in your response, but.

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Alright, I'll go ahead and close the poll and share the results.

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So, it looks like

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eighty five percent (yay) of our participants recycle,

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and there's only two percent that currently don't.

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We don't know why.

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And thirteen percent that do it sometimes.

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So, we'll take it back to your presentation here.

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"- " I love it!

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Those are great numbers to see,

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and hopefully by the end of today,

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that two percent will maybe consider recycling a little bit more.

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I have more questions.

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You thought I was going to do all the talking, but not yet.

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There we go.

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So, as I mentioned plastic pollution in the ocean

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is a really broad topic.

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And, I have a bunch of slides

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about kind of basics and seabirds,

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but I do have some slides, extra slides prepared

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just in case there's other questions.

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I'd like to you to, right now,

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if you have a particular question or topic

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that you want to hear addressed,

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I'd really like you to type that into the question section

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on the go to webinar control panel

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so that I can get a feel how fast I need to
go,

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if I need to prepare for extra slides at the end,

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or anything like that.

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"- " Alright, waiting for those responses.

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Type them into the question box here.

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"- " Don't be shy!

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Go ahead and ask,

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or any topic you feel like you want to hear about.

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Also, if I can't get to it in the scope of the presentation,

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I can be sure to try to address it through email later.

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"- " Alright, we have one.

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What geographic area are you surveying or studying,

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which I imagine you'll cover in
your presentation?

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"- " That's a good one! I got that one (laugh).

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"- " What international laws or
treaties

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can be applied to the marine debris, probot, problem?

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"- " Okay.

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"- " Cleanup efforts

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Is there a giant floating area of plastic waste,

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are there are a lot of spots like that, how big are they?

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"- " Okay.

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"-" Someone's interested microbes on ocean plastic.

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Degradation of plastic in the ocean.

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Well now I'm having a hard time keeping up here.

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Plastic ingestion by whales.

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Difference between marine debris and micro plastics.

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How persistent are plastics in the ocean?

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"- " Okay.

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"- " What's the most frequently found plastic in the ocean?

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Which gyres contain the most plastic?

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How do we teach young children
about plastic in the ocean

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without them becoming overwhelmed?

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Does refusing plastic straws make any difference,

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or is it only symbolic?

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"- " Okay.

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"- " Human health micro plastics.

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So, someone is interested in chemical toxins and pollutions.

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"- "Okay.

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"- " Now, I'm losing track because there's so many participants.

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We're getting lots of good questions, so thank you.

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"- " Ok, well awesome!

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So I'll try to incorporate some of that.

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Again, I have my email at the end of this presentation.

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If I don't specifically answer your
question,

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or if I don't go into enough depth about it,

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please reach out to me directly.

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I did a lot of research for this particular presentation

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in addition to my background,

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so I have a lot of information to share,

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and I'd be happy to help you get those answers

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of your particular questions.

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So with that,

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let's go ahead and move on.

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So, I thought we could talk again about

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the big questions related to ocean plastic.

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So how much plastic is out there,

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where is it coming from,

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and how did it get there,

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and what happens when it's actually there.

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And to get started with this conversation,

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it's important that we have kind of similar
definitions

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and an understanding of the terms that we're using here.

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So first and foremost,

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we can call marine debris the umbrella category that contains

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all of the plastic litter that we put into the ocean.

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So, marine debris is defined
essentially as

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any persistent solid material that is human created

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that we put intentionally or unintentionally

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into the marine environment or the Great
Lakes.

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Functionally, this translates to

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derelict ships, natural fibers, glass bottles,

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what else,

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junk cars, scrap metal, any marine debris

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or essentially solid item that shouldn't is in the ocean

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when it shouldn't be, classifies under marine debris.

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This of course includes plastic,

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and the degree to which marine debris

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in an area is made up of plastic

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depends on where you are in the ocean or on the coastline.

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In general,

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estimates suggest about eighty percent of marine debris

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comes from land-based sources,

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and of that eighty percent,

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between 60 and 90 percent is typically plastic.

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Again, this is very site-specific, however,

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so that's a generalization rather than a rule.

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Of this marine debris category,

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we have micro plastics.

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And, micro plastics are a big buzzword now

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in kind of the popular media, media and scientific literature

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because they're, they're really tiny.

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We've essentially developed

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technology and methods to measure them,

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and now we know that they are everywhere.

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But,

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I think it's important to understand that these plastics are

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frames within the broader marine debris continuum because

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any plastic marine debris that gets into
the ocean

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will eventually become micro plastics.

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So, you know,

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a giant car bumper that is made of plastic

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that gets into the ocean

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at first will be considered a piece of marine debris;

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however, over time and with degradation,
it gets broken up into smaller and

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smaller pieces until it falls into this
micro plastic category.

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We functionally define micro plastics as

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any plastic bits that's less than about five millimeters

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in length or width.

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This is a good definition at the top end.

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So, the upper range of micro plastics is generally agreed upon.

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The lower range of micro plastics is, excuse me,

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the lower range of micro plastics depends on

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what research group is essentially looking at them.

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When you look at the literature about micro plastics,

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generally the researcher will define

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what they mean by micro plastics with a given size range.

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Some researchers define this as

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five millimeters down to about 333 mic, micrometers.

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Or, some go all the way down to 20 micrometers.

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However, there is an emerging,

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I guess, two sub-categorizations of micro plastics

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that are gaining a lot of traction,

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and these are the very tiniest of micro plastics.

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These are the nano plastics and the
microfibers.

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Nano plastics don't have a set size classification.

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That's still very much kind of under debate and in research,

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but we can use the European Union designation here

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and say that nano plastics are those plastics bits

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which are about 100 nano-meters in some dimension.

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That's really, really tiny.

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That means they're gonna be invisible to the human eye.

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Means they're gonna be really
difficult to measure,

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and that there's a lot of ambient plastic contamination.

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So you don't know if you're finding nano plastics in your sample,

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or if they just got there from the

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surrounding environment in your lab.

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They also, because they're so tiny, they can get into

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cells and cross membranes relatively easily,

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which means that they could have health effects

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that we don't really know about at this point.

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Within, again, this micro plastic categorization,

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there's a subcategory of micro fibers,

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and these are very thin plastic
filaments.

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They can be up to a 100 times finer than a human hair

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and variable lengths.

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We get these a lot in our clothes.

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My, my lab jacket here is

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probably has a bunch of microfibers in it

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because it has polyester fibers in it.

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And, I'm not gonna talk at length about

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these particular categorizations,

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but I encourage you to look into them further.

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Micro fibers in particular have a lot of

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cool research coming out about them.

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They're found in air, drinking water, food,
fish.

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They're found essentially everywhere,

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so they are worth consideration.

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This is a microscope image of some micro plastics

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that were isolated from the coastal zone.

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You can see there's no set shape or size

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associated with micro plastics found in the ocean.

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They're all colors, shapes, and
sizes

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once we get them back into the lab.

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However, with all these different size
classifications,

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they all are made of similar molecules.

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And I, I'm a, I'm a chemist by trade,

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so I had to throw in some molecular structures here.

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Now I try not to get too in-depth about it,

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but essentially,

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all these thousands of different plastics

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are, are polymers.

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And, a polymer is just a very large molecule

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that is made up of thousands of different atoms,

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and these are formed by linking up these monomer units,

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and in sequence,

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and the monomers can be,

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excuse me, one or two types of monomers can be

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bound up into these chains.

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In blue on the screen, I've isolated

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the monomer for polypropylene.

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And so, essentially, polypropylene is just

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chains and chains of these monomers repeated.

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Most plastic polymers have a carbon backbone

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because they are made from fossil fuels.

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And, we essentially take these chains of polymers

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and stack them up in characteristic ways

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to form those solids that we know as plastics.

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During this process of plastic formation,

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we add things to the layers of polymers,

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such as flame retardants, plasticizers, thermal stabilizers,

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antimicrobial agents, or color

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to essentially get at the final plastic consumer product

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that we see all around us.

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However, despite having thousands of different polymer makeups,

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we really only have contact with about

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seven types of plastic on a routine
basis.

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These seven types of plastic make up about

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eighty-five percent of market
demands,

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according to the American Chemical Council,

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and so far today I've counted I have touched

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two hundred and eleven items that contain these types of plastic.

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Granted, I work in a lab environment,

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and so you can kind of see around us we have a lot of different plastic and glassware.

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But yes, if you count during the day,

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you touch a lot more things of plastic than you may even realize.

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Because these seven types of plastic are so common,

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we've also defined our recycling system around them,

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and so that's where we have these
recycling symbols at the top

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that you've probably seen on consumer products

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telling you which type of recycling bin or, or stream they should go into.

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Yet, despite our best efforts of having this system in place,

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we're actually really sucky at this whole recycling thing.

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This figure is from a paper by Dr.
Jenna Jan Beck.

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Herself and her and some colleagues put together

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a mass balance of all the plastics we've ever produced.

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So essentially, they took industry data
and consumer data,

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made some some guesstimate, estimates as they needed,

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and came up with the figure that we've created:

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8.3 billion metric tons of plastic over our industrial history.

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And unfortunately, we don't use a
lot of this.

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We've discarded a huge portion of this.

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About 6.3 billion metric tons have been discarded

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for about 60% of all of the plastic ever
created.

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Of this portion that's discarded,

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about 9% has been recycled.

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As a side note, the European Union is better overall at recycling.

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They have about 30% recycling rates.

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But in general, about 9% has been recycled,

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12% has been incinerated,

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and 79% has accumulated in landfills or been released into the natural environment.

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It's important to also note here that about half of everything we've produced,

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that 8.3 billion metric tons,

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was produced after 2002.

00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:31.580
Plastic production is anticipated to double over the next 20 years,

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and then quadruple by 2050.

00:22:34.560 --> 00:22:36.320
This is really bad news.

00:22:36.840 --> 00:22:39.960
We haven't really revamped our recycling or waste systems,

00:22:40.060 --> 00:22:43.200
considering we're losing so much of our plastic waste.

00:22:43.640 --> 00:22:47.500
We can't keep up, we can't keep up with levels of production as they are,

00:22:48.020 --> 00:22:50.060
so if they're doubling and quadrupling,

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we have some, some issues on our hands.

00:22:54.340 --> 00:22:57.400
The World Economic Forum has also noted this,

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particularly for packaging material.

00:23:00.260 --> 00:23:02.060
Of the plastic market,

00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:07.360
disposable packaging material creates about 35% of that demands.

00:23:07.780 --> 00:23:12.240
However, we lose almost all of this plastic packaging material,

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.240
and with that loss, after each single loose,

00:23:15.780 --> 00:23:16.960
use, excuse me,

00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:20.160
we lose between 80 to 120 billion
dollars.

00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:25.320
This is referred to as a very linear packaging cycle,

00:23:25.320 --> 00:23:27.200
is I believe the term they use.

00:23:27.340 --> 00:23:31.440
And this, this is a, just a huge waste of money and resources.

00:23:32.780 --> 00:23:36.380
So given this huge degree of waste,

00:23:36.380 --> 00:23:39.460
some of this plastic inevitably ends up in
the ocean,

00:23:40.120 --> 00:23:42.840
which we see entirely too often.

00:23:43.320 --> 00:23:46.560
There are lots of different avenues for plastic to get into the ocean.

00:23:46.820 --> 00:23:51.360
This is a figure from a review
paper by Cara Lavender Law.

00:23:52.320 --> 00:23:55.060
She put out a paper in 2017

00:23:55.060 --> 00:23:59.280
reviewing kind of a bunch of different facets of ocean plastic.

00:23:59.500 --> 00:24:02.300
I highly recommend it for anyone
who kind of wants

00:24:02.460 --> 00:24:05.240
a general overview of the ocean plastic pollution problem.

00:24:05.440 --> 00:24:07.572
I believe it's open access,

00:24:07.580 --> 00:24:09.580
but I, don't quote me on that.

00:24:09.760 --> 00:24:12.280
But essentially, she outlines these pathways.

00:24:12.280 --> 00:24:14.040
And I think it's important to
note here,

00:24:14.040 --> 00:24:16.160
at the very top in the resin category,

00:24:16.680 --> 00:24:21.840
that is essentially as the plastic is being made and formed into these different types of plastic,

00:24:22.060 --> 00:24:26.140
already there, we have a pathway to lose that.

00:24:26.540 --> 00:24:30.580
Plastic can be lost as tiny pellets at
sea as it's being transported.

00:24:30.900 --> 00:24:32.200
We see those as nurdles,

00:24:32.200 --> 00:24:33.900
some people call them
mermaid tears,

00:24:33.900 --> 00:24:38.680
and they're tiny plastic pellets, and we lose a lot of those, unfortunately.

00:24:39.140 --> 00:24:42.780
Once plastic becomes a consumer product or industrial product,

00:24:43.280 --> 00:24:45.020
it can stay in use for a while,

00:24:45.020 --> 00:24:46.980
depending on the type of plastic it is,

00:24:46.980 --> 00:24:49.600
but if it's in use in the ocean,

00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:54.960
we stand to lose those as fishing nets or as
different shipping containers.

00:24:56.080 --> 00:24:58.140
They can be lost and used at sea.

00:24:58.520 --> 00:25:02.360
Hurricanes can contribute a lot to plastic wastes

00:25:02.900 --> 00:25:05.700
or typhoons, or excuse me, tsunamis as well.

00:25:05.980 --> 00:25:08.120
I read one estimate that suggests that about

00:25:08.120 --> 00:25:12.140
20% of the plastic that's in the
Great Pacific Garbage Patch

00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:17.140
could be traced back to the tsunami in Japan.

00:25:18.000 --> 00:25:22.240
As well, beyond kind of the use of or in use products,

00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.100
there's also after we're done with it.

00:25:24.300 --> 00:25:26.200
So, think of, let me find something.

00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:27.460
Oh, plastic bottle.

00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:28.880
So I have this plastic bottle,

00:25:28.880 --> 00:25:30.500
I'm done with it, I toss it,

00:25:30.500 --> 00:25:31.400
but I recycle it,

00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:33.400
and I put it in the right waste stream.

00:25:33.820 --> 00:25:37.620
If the final waste stream isn't in a confined enough environment,

00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:39.720
this can still end up in the ocean,

00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:45.000
primarily through wastewater treatment plant streams or through rivers.

00:25:45.580 --> 00:25:52.820
Rivers contribute about, I think it's 90% of global plastic to the ocean each year,

00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:56.300
with about five rivers making up most of that contribution.

00:26:00.220 --> 00:26:04.700
But, so we we know the avenues by which plastic gets into the ocean;

00:26:05.080 --> 00:26:10.460
however, the degree, or excuse me, the amount that actually gets into the ocean

00:26:10.460 --> 00:26:12.820
has been under some debate for some time.

00:26:13.120 --> 00:26:15.000
This is because we're not, you know,

00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:18.120
we're not measuring every single bit that gets into the ocean,

00:26:18.940 --> 00:26:22.680
and so it's difficult to backtrack
and figure out what exactly got there.

00:26:23.540 --> 00:26:27.580
We've been working on a number for this
for close to 40 years.

00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:32.880
In 1975, a National Academy of Sciences study basically guessed

00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:37.880
that, of what, about 0.1% of global plastic makes it to the sea each year.

00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:43.220
More recently, a couple studies looked at (cough) cruise data.

00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:48.860
Essentially, they took samples across the world ocean on cruises at the surface,

00:26:48.960 --> 00:26:51.780
and then analyzed these for plastic。

00:26:52.460 --> 00:26:55.360
And they suggested that the open ocean surface

00:26:55.500 --> 00:27:02.380
could contain anywhere from 7,000 tons up to 250,000 tons of plastic.

00:27:02.860 --> 00:27:08.040
However, again, Dr. Jenna Jan Beck, she came in and took a different approach.

00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:14.580
She, her and her team looked at how much plastic waste is generated by coastal countries,

00:27:15.280 --> 00:27:19.760
and then estimated how much of that has
the capacity to make it into the ocean

00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:22.460
based on mismanagement of waste
practices.

00:27:23.500 --> 00:27:26.220
They arrived at an estimate stating that

00:27:26.840 --> 00:27:34.560
between 5 and 13 million metric tons of plastic entered the ocean in 2000 alone.

00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:47.000
This is equivalent to between 2 and 5 percent of total plastic production in those 192 coastal countries.

00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:52.220
About 15 to 40 percent of the mismanaged wastes ended up in the ocean.

00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.800
This is a graph I created using data from her paper,

00:27:57.220 --> 00:28:01.860
and I wanted to highlight that the U.S. is actually 20th on this list.

00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:07.280
We contribute far less than the top 5 polluters.

00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:09.280
China is number 1.

00:28:09.660 --> 00:28:14.600
A lot of these countries that are on the
top 20 of plastic marine debris generators

00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.700
are emerging or emerged economies,

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:22.840
meaning that they've just started having a lot of disposability within their economy.

00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:29.460
And their, their rivers contribute a ton of plastic to the world ocean.

00:28:30.340 --> 00:28:35.880
This estimate of plastic entering the ocean was a big eye-opener for the scientific community

00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:41.600
and the public at large I think because
it suggests a huge number, or excuse me,

00:28:41.620 --> 00:28:48.220
a huge amount of plastic gets into the
ocean and we aren't exactly sure where all of it goes.

00:28:48.660 --> 00:28:52.160
So with that, I'm gonna ask you all one more question.

00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.280
Where do you think ocean plastic accumulates?

00:28:56.840 --> 00:29:02.880
"-" Okay, I've gone and launched the poll, so register your vote here on the quick poll.

00:29:04.320 --> 00:29:09.720
Do ocean plastics accumulate in ocean gyres, coastlines, ocean sediments, or all of the above?

00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:15.700
Okay we're inching up past 75% here.

00:29:15.700 --> 00:29:17.880
Alright we're getting there.

00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:27.280
Alright, looks like the majority of folks have voted, so I will close the poll.

00:29:28.380 --> 00:29:37.620
And, 82 percent of participants said that plastic, ocean plastic accumulates in all of the above locations.

00:29:38.580 --> 00:29:41.780
"-" Awesome, and 82 percent of you are correct.

00:29:42.180 --> 00:29:43.580
That's exactly right.

00:29:44.600 --> 00:29:45.940
Let me move on.

00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:49.800
"-" Alright, back to you.

00:29:50.120 --> 00:29:51.380
Thank you.

00:29:51.520 --> 00:29:53.260
So you are all correct.

00:29:53.680 --> 00:30:03.340
The ocean plastic can end up along coastlines, at the surface, in gyres at the sea floor kind of throughout the water column.

00:30:04.320 --> 00:30:08.540
The ocean gyres receive a lot of
attention as plastic collectors,

00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.260
and this is entirely true.

00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:14.000
I know there was question asking if there's patches of garbage,

00:30:14.220 --> 00:30:15.680
and yes, this is true.

00:30:16.460 --> 00:30:20.940
So, an ocean Geyer is essentially a large system of circular currents

00:30:20.940 --> 00:30:23.500
that are driven by wind and the Earth's rotation,

00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:31.160
and these are functioning, or excuse me not functioning, these are existing, in all of the major oceans.

00:30:31.560 --> 00:30:35.640
There's 11 identified gyre systems but five really big ones.

00:30:36.100 --> 00:30:42.640
One in the North Atlantic, the South Atlantic, the Northern Pacific, the Southern Pacific, as well as the Indian Ocean.

00:30:43.780 --> 00:30:49.920
And, the circular motion of the gyre creates kind of like a vortex.

00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:52.780
The center of the Geyer is really calm and stable,

00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.820
so this funnels plastic debris into the center of these gyres.

00:30:58.620 --> 00:31:03.640
The gyres aren't solid surfaces by
any means.

00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:05.800
They're not trash islands, if you will.

00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:07.280
You can't stand on them,

00:31:07.280 --> 00:31:11.020
but they are really soupy mixtures of plastic debris.

00:31:11.180 --> 00:31:14.660
And these are a mix of large debris fishing nets.

00:31:14.840 --> 00:31:22.140
I know the Great Pacific Garbage Patch is
documented to contain about 46% fishing net debris,

00:31:22.760 --> 00:31:27.400
but there's also a lot of micro-plastics in there as different sizes of debris break down.

00:31:29.100 --> 00:31:33.500
These documented these, excuse me, these are documented across the world ocean, however,

00:31:33.800 --> 00:31:36.520
not just in that one well-known Pacific patch.

00:31:38.500 --> 00:31:43.000
This is data from the same paper by Cara Lavender Law,

00:31:43.200 --> 00:31:48.100
and she synthesized data from a number
of different cruise studies and papers

00:31:48.140 --> 00:31:51.200
from across maybe the past 10 to 15 years.

00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:55.900
And, essentially, on all these cruises
they took a water sample and processed it

00:31:55.900 --> 00:31:59.700
to determine the number of plastic
pieces in that particular sample.

00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:07.180
On the top rocks, you can see this graph denotes the number of particles per square kilometer,

00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.600
while the bottom denotes the particle mass per square kilometer.

00:32:10.940 --> 00:32:13.880
The red and yellow and orange
colors denotes high.

00:32:14.020 --> 00:32:17.060
That it's either a high count or a high mass.

00:32:18.340 --> 00:32:28.420
If you think back to this gyre slide and then take a look at where we have those red, those kind of hot colors,

00:32:28.540 --> 00:32:35.460
you'll notice that those patches of high mass or high density occur in, in gyres.

00:32:36.520 --> 00:32:39.000
I think it's important to note here as well that

00:32:40.080 --> 00:32:45.300
the, you know, this this data set it looks like the Northern Hemisphere has a lot more plastic.

00:32:45.780 --> 00:32:49.600
I want to point out that yes, the Northern Hemisphere has a lot more people.

00:32:50.040 --> 00:32:54.980
There's a lot more plastic entering the ocean in the Northern Hemisphere from those people.

00:32:55.500 --> 00:33:00.320
But the Southern Hemisphere has documented plastic all through it as well,

00:33:00.540 --> 00:33:04.920
and the, the lack of dots in this particular set in the Southern Hemisphere

00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:12.940
is more a lack of research data describing that particular area, rather a factor of there being no, no plastics there.

00:33:15.800 --> 00:33:21.940
So, while we're, you know, so we know that there's plastics in the ocean surface layer,

00:33:22.040 --> 00:33:27.340
but the ocean surface layer only makes up a tiny portion of the overall volume of the ocean.

00:33:27.700 --> 00:33:29.620
The ocean is very deep and
very wide,

00:33:29.620 --> 00:33:34.060
and so there's this huge water column that has plastics in it that we need to consider.

00:33:34.760 --> 00:33:39.660
And here I like to think of the ocean as a piece of cake or a cake.

00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:44.380
And this particular cake looks delicious as I'm sitting here looking at it.

00:33:44.580 --> 00:33:47.220
I'm not sure where all of you are from tuning in,

00:33:47.220 --> 00:33:49.600
but it's about 6:00, 6:30 here,

00:33:49.600 --> 00:33:51.580
and I am almost ready for dinner.

00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.740
But regardless, so this cake analogy.

00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.600
You know we look at this cake and we see the icing on the cake,

00:33:58.380 --> 00:34:04.400
and it kind of tells us a lot about the cake, whether we think it's gonna be delicious,

00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.560
but when we actually slice into the cake,

00:34:06.900 --> 00:34:10.980
this is when we figure out what makes up the flavor and the bulk of the cake.

00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:14.100
The same idea kind of applies for plastics.

00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:18.400
The ocean service, surface is an obvious collection point,

00:34:18.620 --> 00:34:22.900
but there's a whole water column to consider when we're talking about ocean plastics.

00:34:24.820 --> 00:34:30.680
The interior of the ocean is likely a significant thing for plastic debris

00:34:30.680 --> 00:34:35.040
as well as the sediments or the very deep ocean, the bottom of the ocean.

00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:39.500
Some recent modeling work by the group of Albert Coleman's

00:34:39.500 --> 00:34:46.780
found that 99.8% of the plastic that we've put into the ocean since 1950

00:34:46.780 --> 00:34:50.080
has settled out of the ocean surface layer already.

00:34:50.200 --> 00:34:52.680
It settled out by 2016.

00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.720
His model also suggests that if we stopped putting plastic entirely into the ocean right now,

00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:05.360
most of it would have, would cycle out of the ocean surface layer within three years,

00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:09.635
meaning that a lot of the plastic that we see at the surface,

00:35:09.635 --> 00:35:11.280
it's kind of the tip of the iceberg,

00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:16.800
there's likely a lot more plastic within the deeper layers of the ocean and at the bottom of the ocean.

00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:23.117
So, I mentioned, you know I brought in that whole polymer discussion because

00:35:23.120 --> 00:35:27.200
where plastics end up depends on what kind of polymer they are.

00:35:27.660 --> 00:35:32.760
Some plastics sink out of the surface layer right away because they are denser in water.

00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.880
Those, those polymers are, are packed more densely and make them sink.

00:35:37.560 --> 00:35:43.400
Polyvinyl chloride, KET plastics, nylon fishing line and cellulose acetate

00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:45.980
are some that sink right away and go to the bottom.

00:35:46.520 --> 00:35:50.640
However, the plastics that float, they can also make make it to the bottom.

00:35:51.260 --> 00:35:58.180
They get broken down over time from photo degradation, from the sun beating down on them.

00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:04.460
This in combination with waves and
wind stress, breaks down the plastics

00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:05.840
that makes them more and more
brittle.

00:36:06.180 --> 00:36:08.860
They then break up into tinier and tinier fragments.

00:36:09.720 --> 00:36:12.960
As this mechanical and chemical wearing is going on,

00:36:12.960 --> 00:36:17.120
the plastics are also being acted on by
biological communities.

00:36:17.640 --> 00:36:19.200
And so in the green on this slide,

00:36:19.700 --> 00:36:25.040
this is a representation of both the chemical and physical processes,

00:36:25.420 --> 00:36:27.820
those are the hollow blue arrows,

00:36:28.180 --> 00:36:31.560
and the green arrows represent kind of the biological processing.

00:36:31.900 --> 00:36:35.180
So plastic particles at the surface first get colonized,

00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:36.820
microbes settle on them,

00:36:36.820 --> 00:36:40.660
and, and make the surface more friendly or welcoming for other microbes,

00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.180
and then a bio film starts to form.

00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:49.440
This film attracts other other ocean critters to live on it or eat off of it,

00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:56.140
and from there, the plastic can further biodegrade and to smaller and smaller pieces.

00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:58.880
This is a particularly cool image.

00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:03.460
This was a study done by Kaiser et all in 2017,

00:37:03.740 --> 00:37:06.840
and they essentially took pieces of plastic

00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:11.660
and exposed them in coastal environments and estuary environments,

00:37:11.860 --> 00:37:17.440
And they found that over the course of 14 weeks,

00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.540
a little over three months, or yeah, three months, excuse me,

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:25.500
that significant bio films formed readily on these pieces of plastic,

00:37:25.680 --> 00:37:30.360
and these bio films change the
rate at which plastics sink.

00:37:30.860 --> 00:37:35.160
So essentially, by the end of the treatment, the floating plastics that they put in the water,

00:37:35.160 --> 00:37:36.140
the polyethylenes,

00:37:36.200 --> 00:37:38.400
were able to more readily sink.

00:37:38.600 --> 00:37:42.200
The degree to which this happened depended on where they were put,

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:47.580
but overall, a pretty cool image of this.

00:37:47.620 --> 00:37:49.280
And as a side note, I'm sorry let me explain.

00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.080
This is a scanning electron microscope image.

00:37:52.520 --> 00:37:59.560
This is the type of microscopy that can get really clear resolution images of very tiny things.

00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.880
So, from there, now we know okay, we got plastics at the surface,

00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.640
we have plastic all through the water column, and in the bottom.

00:38:10.900 --> 00:38:17.100
And this gives animals, marine animals a lot of opportunities to interact with this plastic.

00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:24.320
And we can essentially kind of define animal interactions with plastic in four big categories.

00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.920
First of all, a lot of animals can get entangled.

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:34.740
This is particularly evident in larger marine mega fauna, like whales and seals and, and turtles,

00:38:35.160 --> 00:38:40.400
and it can get caught up in lines or fishing
gear and, and have a world of trouble.

00:38:40.780 --> 00:38:42.600
Animals can also eat plastic.

00:38:42.600 --> 00:38:48.340
They can think that it's, it's food, particularly those that are more opportunistic animals,

00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:53.420
So, birds that eat one type of fish are less
likely to eat plastic

00:38:53.420 --> 00:39:00.980
than maybe a gull or a shearwater that kind of will eat anything that it can get its hands, or, beak on.

00:39:02.220 --> 00:39:05.980
Plastics also can impact marine
animals by causing habitat damage.

00:39:06.300 --> 00:39:08.060
So, they can smother coral.

00:39:08.060 --> 00:39:11.960
So essentially, if the big piece of fishing net comes down on a coral reef,

00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.720
it's going to impact that reef by physically abrading it

00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.660
and blocking the sunlight for the zooxanthellae to photosynthesize.

00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.540
They can also transport non-native species.

00:39:23.680 --> 00:39:30.220
So, small creatures, or even large creatures, for that matter, can hitch a ride on plastics.

00:39:30.580 --> 00:39:35.980
We saw from those gyres that ocean plastic can get circulated around the course of the world ocean.

00:39:36.300 --> 00:39:41.380
So something that started in, let's say Japan, can end up on the other side of the ocean

00:39:41.380 --> 00:39:43.340
by hitching a ride on plastic.

00:39:44.900 --> 00:39:50.580
Over 700 different species of marine wildlife have documented interactions with plastic

00:39:50.580 --> 00:39:51.860
in one way shape or form,

00:39:52.380 --> 00:39:58.940
and the, the prevalence of these interactions kind of depends on the type of wildlife,

00:39:59.120 --> 00:40:02.720
With some wildlife being more prone to
plastic interactions than others.

00:40:03.160 --> 00:40:06.520
For example, 83% of northern right whales

00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:11.200
were documented to have some evidence of entanglement in roper netting

00:40:11.200 --> 00:40:15.060
based on 29 years of photographic evidence.

00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:18.580
And then, there's also a really long standing study in the North Sea

00:40:18.580 --> 00:40:21.380
looking at northern full marks, a type of sea bird.

00:40:21.580 --> 00:40:28.360
And of 1295 individuals that they
have cut up to look for plastic,

00:40:28.600 --> 00:40:31.520
they have found plastic in 95% of them.

00:40:32.540 --> 00:40:33.040
But,

00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:37.380
here I want to make sure to make the point that we need to be careful about

00:40:37.420 --> 00:40:42.360
distinguishing evidence of contamination versus evidence of impacts,

00:40:42.820 --> 00:40:48.040
and this, this graph that is from the, the law review paper.

00:40:48.040 --> 00:40:50.840
And you'll notice that there's a lot of white boxes,

00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:56.240
meaning that for these different levels of
population, organisms, cell,

00:40:56.620 --> 00:40:59.260
all these different levels of living organization,

00:40:59.660 --> 00:41:07.280
we're not exactly sure if there are demonstrated impacts of plastic in that particular level of organization.

00:41:08.220 --> 00:41:16.680
This is because it is difficult to understand these kind of impacts when you are observing wildlife in particular.

00:41:17.100 --> 00:41:20.500
So for example, you find a bird.

00:41:20.820 --> 00:41:23.260
It has a lot of plastic in its stomach.

00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.020
It also has no fat reserves in it.

00:41:27.560 --> 00:41:31.040
It is not possible to say just from that individual

00:41:31.500 --> 00:41:38.920
whether the plastic killed it, or whether the bird was couldn't find enough food,

00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:43.820
it got really skinny and then started eating plastic because it was desperate.

00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:49.480
And so the scientific community is working really hard to figure out more demonstrated impacts,

00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:52.840
or disprove where plastic isn't causing impacts.

00:41:54.520 --> 00:42:00.320
I think that some of the more pronounced impacts have been found,

00:42:01.140 --> 00:42:04.460
maybe at the the cellular or tissue level,

00:42:04.820 --> 00:42:14.280
where plastics can impact the expression of, I believe it's certain, certain fats in, in liver tissue.

00:42:14.600 --> 00:42:19.100
They have been documented at very low levels of the food chain in zooplankton,

00:42:19.240 --> 00:42:25.540
but again, we're not exactly sure how this translates to organism or population level effects,

00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:31.080
or kind of the diversity of marine creatures that we we see interact with plastic.

00:42:32.780 --> 00:42:37.640
With that, I'm gonna switch gears
just a little bit and talk about plastics and seabirds.

00:42:37.700 --> 00:42:41.180
And this is a subject near and dear to my own heart

00:42:41.220 --> 00:42:46.940
in that my dissertation revolves entirely around the species of seabird called great shearwaters.

00:42:49.100 --> 00:42:51.160
So, I'm gonna start off with a question though.

00:42:51.160 --> 00:42:52.420
I've been talking for a while.

00:42:52.780 --> 00:42:55.480
Where have sea birds been found to eat plastic?

00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.780
"-" Alright, the poll has been
officially launched on your screen.

00:43:01.660 --> 00:43:05.300
I didn't let you know, Anna, but there weren't enough slots so I had the clump a few of them together.

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:08.440
So, you'll see me Midway Atoll and Hawai'i are clumped together.

00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:14.860
So, the Hawaiian archipelago, California, New Zealand, Australia Massachusetts, or all of the above.

00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:16.060
"-" Perfect

00:43:16.060 --> 00:43:19.460
"-" Looks like we're inching towards everyone voting here.

00:43:20.060 --> 00:43:20.560
"-" Okay.

00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.900
I'll give you one more second to get your vote in if you haven't already.

00:43:28.740 --> 00:43:29.360
"-" Okay.

00:43:29.860 --> 00:43:31.680
Let's go ahead and share the results.

00:43:31.680 --> 00:43:40.100
So, 91% are saying that all of the above sea birds have been found to eat plastic in all of those locations.

00:43:40.600 --> 00:43:44.840
"-" Yes, that is exactly true and unfortunately true.

00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:50.980
So we care about this because plastics in,

00:43:52.180 --> 00:43:53.520
sorry here we go, okay,

00:43:53.920 --> 00:44:00.300
plastics in sea birds are of concern because sea birds are great environmental indicators.

00:44:00.680 --> 00:44:02.760
And I say this for a lot of reasons.

00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.300
A: they tell us a lot about the health of the environment itself.

00:44:07.300 --> 00:44:11.560
So they're, they're sensitive to
food stocks and food webs.

00:44:11.560 --> 00:44:14.060
They're sensitive to environmental conditions,

00:44:14.060 --> 00:44:20.340
and so for example, if a region isn't healthy and supporting a lot of fish or birds to eat,

00:44:20.340 --> 00:44:23.160
you're not gonna have very healthy birds, and we'll see that.

00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:25.860
Beyond that, they're also sensitive to pollution.

00:44:26.140 --> 00:44:30.300
The cliche of canaries in the coal mine
arises because of this.

00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:33.280
They have fast metabolisms,

00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:37.840
and so therefore, their body condition responds quickly to different stressors in their environment.

00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:44.080
They're also a good environmental indicators because they're like us in more ways that you would expect.

00:44:44.560 --> 00:44:51.060
They're global citizens, they're long-lived they have this, excuse me, fast metabolism like us.

00:44:51.520 --> 00:44:57.040
So by looking at what is going on with seabirds, we can get some indication of

00:44:57.040 --> 00:44:59.260
issues that we should be concerned about.

00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:05.020
And I utilize this in my research to look at chemicals and plastics in seabirds

00:45:05.220 --> 00:45:10.380
to figure out, okay, is Massachusetts Bay and the greater Gulf of Maine

00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:15.160
contributing chemicals or plastics into sea birds or humans.

00:45:17.700 --> 00:45:19.880
And so we see a lot of these pictures.

00:45:19.880 --> 00:45:24.280
And this I found out Claire, our wonderful
organizer, actually took this photo,

00:45:25.380 --> 00:45:31.460
And so we see some of these grisly pictures of seabird chicks with a bunch of plastic in their stomach.

00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:35.220
And I previously reference how, okay,

00:45:35.220 --> 00:45:39.760
we can't be sure if it, you know, the impact from plastic this is definitely it.

00:45:40.020 --> 00:45:41.600
Particularly in seabird chicks,

00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:46.240
the parents will bring them back plastic bits, they'll fill up their stomach,

00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:49.340
and they won't be able to actually get any good food in there,

00:45:49.340 --> 00:45:55.140
and they'll die of starvation or from maybe infections of their GI tract

00:45:55.180 --> 00:45:58.540
as the plastic punctures their proventriculus.

00:45:58.940 --> 00:46:03.160
And this is a really nasty reminder of plastic pollution,

00:46:03.160 --> 00:46:06.080
but I wanted to highlight today, particularly with my research,

00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:12.240
that it doesn't have to come to this degree
for seabirds to be impacted by plastics.

00:46:12.660 --> 00:46:13.340
Excuse me.

00:46:14.340 --> 00:46:17.280
We see plastic ingestion in birds around the world.

00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.680
This is data from a 2015 paper.

00:46:22.560 --> 00:46:26.580
The North Sea Fulmar study has been ongoing for decades,

00:46:26.580 --> 00:46:34.540
and they cut up fulmars, another type of seabird, and document the degree of plastic ingestion in that bird.

00:46:34.900 --> 00:46:40.880
They also have data about the number of plastics in the gyres

00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:43.860
surrounding the location where these fulmars are.

00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:50.600
And interestingly enough, they have
found that as plastic production changes

00:46:50.940 --> 00:46:55.100
the plastic ingestion in fulmars changes.

00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.900
And so industrial plastics have gone down in the North Atlantic gyre.

00:47:00.080 --> 00:47:05.393
Those industrial plastics are indicated by the small circles on the graph,

00:47:05.700 --> 00:47:06.800
and that has decreased.

00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:11.380
And by industrial plastics, I mean it's those
tiny little plastic beads mostly that

00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.720
the nurdles or mermaid tears have,

00:47:13.940 --> 00:47:18.800
we put less of those into the environment as we've gotten better at preventing their spills.

00:47:19.160 --> 00:47:21.460
And this has been reflected in the fulmars.

00:47:21.660 --> 00:47:24.200
The ingestion of those plastics has gone down.

00:47:24.640 --> 00:47:30.620
I'm not showing it in this particular slide but the paper also shows that user plastics,

00:47:30.620 --> 00:47:36.200
or those plastics that come from consumer products or basically us, our waste streams,

00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:40.060
those have not gone down in the
Atlantic gyre.

00:47:40.060 --> 00:47:43.980
There's no obvious trend of those decreasing in that area,

00:47:43.980 --> 00:47:48.160
and as such there's no obvious trend of those decreasing in the fulmars.

00:47:50.620 --> 00:47:54.760
So my work is in Stellwagen bank.

00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:58.525
It is one of the national marine sanctuaries
on the East coast.

00:47:58.525 --> 00:48:03.240
It stretches from Cape Anne in the north down to Cape Cod in the south,

00:48:03.240 --> 00:48:09.320
and it is it surrounds a really productive ecosystem off on Stellwagen bank,

00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:13.360
and this is a bank that sticks up in the middle of Massachusetts Bay

00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.740
and supports a really productive ecosystem.

00:48:15.740 --> 00:48:18.700
It is one of the best places
in the country to see whales.

00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:22.540
There are a lot of whale populations that feed here,

00:48:22.600 --> 00:48:26.460
in addition to a lot of seabirds and sharks and large fish.

00:48:26.720 --> 00:48:28.640
It's a really beautiful area,

00:48:28.640 --> 00:48:31.200
and my study species is in the bottom right,

00:48:31.200 --> 00:48:34.700
that is a Great shearwater ardenna gravis .

00:48:34.900 --> 00:48:39.680
They eat in Stellwagen Bank over the summertime, our summertime,

00:48:39.980 --> 00:48:45.500
and then they migrate across the equator down into the south Atlantic

00:48:45.500 --> 00:48:51.260
where they breed on a, mostly on a tiny island group called the Tristan da Cunha island group,

00:48:52.380 --> 00:48:56.880
which is kind of smack dab in between Africa and South America.

00:48:59.560 --> 00:49:04.600
We have an ongoing research program surrounding these birds at Stellwagen Bank.

00:49:04.780 --> 00:49:08.960
I think one of my colleagues who this is is his data.

00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.280
I think he's on the webinar, so hi Kevin.

00:49:12.060 --> 00:49:15.940
But, so we put satellite tags on these birds to figure out

00:49:15.940 --> 00:49:20.000
where they are hanging out in the Gulf of Maine and in Stellwagen Bank.

00:49:20.580 --> 00:49:25.300
This is important because it gives us an idea of where the fish are essentially

00:49:25.300 --> 00:49:30.300
and where is important for us to keep track of, or excuse me,

00:49:30.300 --> 00:49:35.320
to protect as the region changes with climate change and, and fishing.

00:49:36.080 --> 00:49:42.820
As a slight bug, we have updates about where our satellite tags birds are in the Gulf of Maine.

00:49:42.820 --> 00:49:47.680
If you go on Twitter and follow Track seabirds you can see where the birds are.

00:49:48.540 --> 00:49:50.540
We post weekly updates about that,

00:49:50.540 --> 00:49:53.140
and it's pretty cool they go all over the place

00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.780
This population has previously been
assessed for plastic.

00:50:00.520 --> 00:50:05.660
Some papers or some work in 2005 and 2008 found that

00:50:05.660 --> 00:50:13.280
71% of Great shearwaters contain plastic fragments, mostly of user plastics and hard, hard bits.

00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:20.620
Since this paper came out, there was a
modelling study that has come out suggesting that

00:50:21.100 --> 00:50:26.960
by 2050 99% of the world's seabirds will have ingested plastic.

00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:31.240
So that graph I showed you about the fulmars tracking production,

00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:34.220
this is where that comes into play.

00:50:34.220 --> 00:50:36.680
So essentially, at the beginning of this presentation,

00:50:36.700 --> 00:50:41.500
I mentioned how plastic production is
slated to quadruple before 2050,

00:50:41.500 --> 00:50:49.720
and as that production ramps up, the
modeling work done by Wilcox and his group, Chris Wilcox in 2012,

00:50:49.720 --> 00:50:57.520
suggests that all, essentially all species of seabird are going to interact with plastic more and more and more

00:50:57.520 --> 00:50:59.400
as we put more of it into the ocean.

00:51:00.980 --> 00:51:05.240
So, I'm going to get set up here and kind of show you how I look for this.

00:51:06.160 --> 00:51:09.100
My research project is still in flux.

00:51:09.220 --> 00:51:10.360
I'm still collecting data,

00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.400
and so I'm going to show you how I do that.

00:51:12.660 --> 00:51:21.120
Right now, I will tell you that it looks like the, since the initial assessment of plastic in shearwaters done by that paper,

00:51:21.820 --> 00:51:24.840
I have analyzed 18 birds for plastics,

00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:27.500
and I found plastics in 17 of them.

00:51:28.540 --> 00:51:30.940
So, we'll see what the final data set looks like,

00:51:30.940 --> 00:51:32.100
but give me one second.

00:51:32.100 --> 00:51:35.640
I'm going to mute my camera for just a second and get set up.

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.420
"-" Alright, while Anna's getting set up,

00:51:42.420 --> 00:51:47.640
I wanted to let you all know that we're gonna probably run some minutes over today's webinar,

00:51:47.640 --> 00:51:49.560
so it'll be a little bit longer than an hour.

00:51:49.640 --> 00:51:51.680
For those of you that are able to stay,

00:51:51.680 --> 00:51:55.920
you'll get to witness this live bird necropsy that Anna will do,

00:51:56.300 --> 00:51:59.920
and we'll also still have a brief Q&amp;A session.

00:52:00.420 --> 00:52:07.180
I did mention that many of the questions that may not get responded to on the webinar,

00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:11.280
that we will do a follow-up via email with responses from Anna.

00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:15.020
And with that, I'm gonna let
you go back because she's all set up.

00:52:15.060 --> 00:52:15.825
It looks good.

00:52:15.825 --> 00:52:17.520
Your camera's in good position.

00:52:17.680 --> 00:52:18.180
"-" Great!

00:52:18.220 --> 00:52:22.680
Claire please let me know if anything
starts to get out of focus, or you can't see anything.

00:52:23.060 --> 00:52:25.620
"-" Well, what I will recommend before you start for people

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:31.460
you have control of changing the size of the web camera versus the presentation slide.

00:52:31.640 --> 00:52:34.940
So you can go ahead and increase the size of the camera,

00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.540
or if you want to run back over there and turn off your presentation, either way.

00:52:39.980 --> 00:52:40.600
Sorry.

00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:42.220
Yeah, cool, let me

00:52:43.340 --> 00:52:44.780
"-" Stop sharing your slides,

00:52:44.780 --> 00:52:46.560
and then you'll get larger for everybody,

00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:48.800
and then you can everyone has control.

00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:49.620
"-" Is that bigger?

00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:51.320
"-" That looks great, yep go ahead!

00:52:51.700 --> 00:52:52.780
Okay, hi everyone!

00:52:52.780 --> 00:52:54.020
Welcome to my lab!

00:52:54.100 --> 00:53:00.640
This is the like sediment and tissue lab
at my university, the University of Rhode Island,

00:53:00.640 --> 00:53:03.140
and this is where I cut up all of my
stuff.

00:53:03.780 --> 00:53:05.940
I'm gonna put on some lab glasses too.

00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:08.686
I'm obviously in a lab setting, I have
a lab coat on,

00:53:08.686 --> 00:53:10.480
make sure I don't get stuff on me.

00:53:11.140 --> 00:53:12.540
I've already opened up my bird.

00:53:12.640 --> 00:53:15.040
When I did this, I had a respirator on.

00:53:15.200 --> 00:53:17.437
Birds can have infections in them,

00:53:17.740 --> 00:53:22.200
so you want to make sure there's no fungal stuff in there that you don't want to be breathing.

00:53:22.420 --> 00:53:23.640
This bird looks good.

00:53:23.640 --> 00:53:27.000
I typically don't find a lot of fungal
infections in these birds.

00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:33.300
I get these birds from bycatch, from the NOAA observer program at the Northeast fisheries Science Center.

00:53:33.660 --> 00:53:37.160
These birds get caught in fishing nets and drown,

00:53:37.160 --> 00:53:38.500
and then they bring them in for me,

00:53:38.500 --> 00:53:39.540
and I deal with them.

00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:42.940
So over here, I have one that I
haven't cut up yet,

00:53:42.940 --> 00:53:45.380
and I was going to show you this.

00:53:45.500 --> 00:53:47.820
This is, these are either actually sooty shearwaters.

00:53:47.820 --> 00:53:51.720
They're a cousin of my study species, the Great Shearwater.

00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.020
They don't have the characteristic white belly plumage,

00:53:56.120 --> 00:53:58.269
but they are pelagic sea birds.

00:53:58.269 --> 00:54:00.920
They have rarely ever come to shore, except to breathe.

00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:04.650
They have really long wings for such a small bird,

00:54:04.650 --> 00:54:08.440
and they use this because they just soar across the ocean

00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:16.060
and then plunge into the surface waters generally to hunt for sand lance and squid.

00:54:17.740 --> 00:54:18.800
Put this one to the side.

00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.740
And so, when I am doing a necropsy,

00:54:21.740 --> 00:54:24.080
you know a lot of information from these birds,

00:54:24.080 --> 00:54:29.380
and this is important stuff, or
excuse me, important information to collect

00:54:29.380 --> 00:54:33.480
because at the end when you know
how much many plastic pieces are in the bird,

00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:37.300
or you know how many different
types of contaminants are in the bird,

00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:44.360
you want to know how much fat did they have, did their liver what was it deformed or anything like that.

00:54:44.580 --> 00:54:46.420
Today we're kind of short on time,

00:54:46.420 --> 00:54:49.800
so I just want to kind of show you how I
take out this GI tract.

00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:56.240
I kind of pre-cut it up a little bit so it's easier to take out.

00:54:56.240 --> 00:54:59.560
When you open up the bird we have these layers of fat,

00:54:59.560 --> 00:55:02.640
and this is good, this means that this bird was eating well.

00:55:02.720 --> 00:55:07.340
Seabirds typically maintain
thick layers of this, particularly shearwaters,

00:55:07.640 --> 00:55:11.120
and so that means this bird was eating well, which is good news for us.

00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:14.620
I've already kind of cracked open
its rib cage.

00:55:14.620 --> 00:55:16.300
I'm kind of out of sight to the left.

00:55:16.300 --> 00:55:19.180
I've taken out most of its large internal organs.

00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:23.680
And at the bottom, we have this GI tract.

00:55:29.040 --> 00:55:31.400
So we take this out.

00:55:33.240 --> 00:55:39.900
Tube nose sea birds, the Procellariiformes, are, they have like a two-part stomach.

00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:46.440
And so for some sea birds, you can actually take a tube like this,

00:55:47.160 --> 00:55:52.500
stick it down their throat, and flush their
stomach to get out that their stomach contents

00:55:52.540 --> 00:55:54.840
and see how much plastic is in
them.

00:55:55.240 --> 00:55:59.060
However, these tube nose birds have this two-part stomach,

00:55:59.580 --> 00:56:03.600
and they don't, you can't actually flush the bottom part of their stomach.

00:56:04.540 --> 00:56:11.600
And, so you it's difficult to get the total degree of plastic ingestion in these birds

00:56:11.600 --> 00:56:14.440
without having some kind of dead sample that you can cut up.

00:56:15.460 --> 00:56:17.820
So this is the proventriculus.

00:56:17.820 --> 00:56:22.860
This up here is the what we would call maybe like the stomach,

00:56:22.860 --> 00:56:27.140
and it's a membranous kind of sack and it can stretch a lot.

00:56:27.180 --> 00:56:30.200
And so when you see those
chicks on the beach,

00:56:30.200 --> 00:56:33.520
this is this is how they get that much plastic into their stomach.

00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:35.680
This part of their stomach stretches a lot.

00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:42.060
A lot of sea birds are capable of kind of throwing up a pellet to get those out of this area.

00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.620
If it gets to be too much, they're not going to be able to.

00:56:45.900 --> 00:56:48.000
And so we look at this part.

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:52.640
I don't look for plastics in this particular proventriculus area

00:56:52.640 --> 00:56:58.180
because the tube nose birds typically throw up when they're under stress.

00:56:58.180 --> 00:57:00.040
So that means as these birds are drowning in the nets,

00:57:00.040 --> 00:57:01.920
they they just throw everything up,

00:57:01.920 --> 00:57:08.340
and so I don't actually get a lot of information by looking in this particular area of the stomach.

00:57:08.540 --> 00:57:09.180
However,

00:57:10.640 --> 00:57:11.900
Move this right here.

00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:14.960
At the bottom of this, we have what's known as the ventriculus.

00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:18.260
You might call this kind of like
the, the gizzard.

00:57:19.260 --> 00:57:27.940
And this is a very tiny organ that serves to help grind up some of the hard parts from the birds prey.

00:57:28.260 --> 00:57:29.860
It's about this big.

00:57:30.740 --> 00:57:31.840
It's all it is,

00:57:32.060 --> 00:57:36.160
and it's very muscular and it has, let me cut it open for us to look at,

00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.620
has a lot of internal surface area to it

00:57:51.520 --> 00:57:55.020
so that this maximizes what they are
breaking up.

00:57:55.500 --> 00:57:57.480
And, oh, we got some plastic.

00:58:01.560 --> 00:58:04.100
In these areas, we find a lot of squid
beaks,

00:58:05.040 --> 00:58:11.040
and we have a piece of filamentous plastic in there.

00:58:14.720 --> 00:58:22.360
So I take some distilled water, just clean water, and I more carefully than this,

00:58:23.040 --> 00:58:28.440
flush out the contents of this organ into some kind of dish.

00:58:29.740 --> 00:58:31.180
I'm gonna leave this one to the
side.

00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:37.060
From there, I take those contents and I sieve them.

00:58:37.060 --> 00:58:39.469
This can be done in a couple different ways,

00:58:39.469 --> 00:58:45.640
I just take a sieve of a millimeter or 0.5 millimeter mesh,

00:58:45.640 --> 00:58:48.060
and I take those contents and I run them over it.

00:58:48.260 --> 00:58:52.480
From there I put them into a petri dish.

00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:57.080
This is my education set, so I typically use glass.

00:58:57.620 --> 00:59:01.260
Again, when you're working with plastics you have to be careful to avoid contamination,

00:59:01.260 --> 00:59:04.800
so I'm actually looking at samples to do this under, under glass.

00:59:05.680 --> 00:59:08.960
And this is a sample that I took a couple weeks ago,

00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:14.240
and I'm gonna try to get nice and close to the camera so that you can see better.

00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.640
What you should see are some bright blue big chunks.

00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:25.220
This bird had 12 total pieces of plastic in that little gizzard organ,

00:59:25.220 --> 00:59:30.400
so 12 of those fit in the organ this size.

00:59:31.680 --> 00:59:36.880
And there is some data suggesting
that they can pass these

00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:39.500
or get rid of them faster than we thought,

00:59:39.540 --> 00:59:42.620
but we're not exactly sure how fast that actually happens.

00:59:42.620 --> 00:59:48.560
And so the bird is flying around
for months to years with these pieces of within its GI tract.

00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:54.640
Right now I don't know how that's changing over time or how it may be impacting the bird,

00:59:54.640 --> 00:59:59.180
but hopefully by the end of my dissertation, I'll be able to tell you more about that.

01:00:00.120 --> 01:00:05.940
With that, after I kind of take out the plastic, I would go on to finish from my necropsy.

01:00:05.940 --> 01:00:13.340
I have a five page data sheet to kind of
just measure everything about the bird

01:00:13.340 --> 01:00:15.680
and get a lot of information about it.

01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:21.440
I want to make sure to note that if you find a dead sea bird,

01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:25.520
don't you it's, it's actually illegal unless you have a permit

01:00:25.520 --> 01:00:28.500
to take that bird or take it apart.

01:00:28.500 --> 01:00:32.000
It's covered under the Fish and Wildlife Service,

01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:35.220
so I have permits to have all of these birds and deal with them.

01:00:35.900 --> 01:00:39.400
There are a number of different
programs though on the East Coast

01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:44.100
and I believe on the West Coast that take beach birds and use them for data.

01:00:44.100 --> 01:00:50.380
And I know the one close to here has a lot of citizen science work involved with it,

01:00:50.380 --> 01:00:53.080
so even though you can't take it and dissect it yourself,

01:00:53.080 --> 01:00:57.540
you can certainly get involved with programs that use sea birds as samples.

01:00:58.120 --> 01:01:03.700
So with that, I'm going to de-glove and come back and see if I can field any questions if anyone's left.

01:01:05.060 --> 01:01:09.060
"-" Yes, pretty much everyone is stayed on
the webinar.

01:01:10.240 --> 01:01:12.080
I'll go ahead and join you with my web camera.

01:01:12.220 --> 01:01:14.500
Alright, I'm gonna have to go back scroll up here to the  top

01:01:14.500 --> 01:01:18.960
and see what are some of these questions that we talked about asking you.

01:01:20.260 --> 01:01:24.300
Someone had a good one about what
international laws or treaties can be

01:01:24.300 --> 01:01:26.600
applied to the marine debris problem.

01:01:26.680 --> 01:01:29.140
Do you have any insight into that Anna?

01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.520
"-" Yeah, I have a little bit,

01:01:31.520 --> 01:01:38.540
and I'm gonna answer with the caveat that policy and solutions that's not my area of research.

01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:46.000
I have seen it suggested to have plastics listed as an international pollutant of concern.

01:01:47.100 --> 01:01:51.200
There is several international treaties that kind of deal with chemicals

01:01:51.200 --> 01:01:54.880
that we internationally, we say no, we're not gonna do this.

01:01:54.940 --> 01:01:58.240
And there's been some discussion in the scientific community

01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:01.640
to have plastics listed as that type of contaminant.

01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:08.580
So to say that we are going to deal with
this on an international level,

01:02:08.580 --> 01:02:12.820
whether that's adding to the Stockholm Convention or creating a new treaty.

01:02:13.220 --> 01:02:19.480
Again I am not an expert on that, but I know that that solution has been floated around several times,

01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:21.040
particularly in recent years.

01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:23.200
"-" Great, thank you for that.

01:02:23.300 --> 01:02:26.860
A couple people brought up issues about plastic-eating bacteria.

01:02:26.860 --> 01:02:29.780
Is that such a thing, is it viable, what do you know about that?

01:02:30.880 --> 01:02:32.340
I know a little bit about that.

01:02:32.340 --> 01:02:39.100
There are some some plastic, excuse me, some bacteria that have been identified to degrade plastic,

01:02:39.100 --> 01:02:46.900
and my answer to that is the law of unintended consequences could be at play.

01:02:46.900 --> 01:02:52.640
And so while that is a great solution and
that's awesome discovery in a laboratory setting,

01:02:52.860 --> 01:02:58.820
the scale of the plastic pollution problem suggests that bacteria can't deal with all of that,

01:02:58.820 --> 01:03:04.860
nor do we know if those bacteria could live in all the habitats that we know plastic lives in.

01:03:05.100 --> 01:03:07.300
So today, we just talked about ocean plastics,

01:03:07.300 --> 01:03:10.900
but plastics are also a freshwater problem, a terrestrial problem.

01:03:11.200 --> 01:03:15.220
And so while that does sound like a
promising initial discovery,

01:03:15.240 --> 01:03:20.100
I think a lot of work has to be done to make something like that a viable solution to the problem.

01:03:21.140 --> 01:03:22.200
"-" Excellent!

01:03:22.520 --> 01:03:24.280
We have someone that asked about

01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:27.800
do you happen to know what percent of plastics are now part of plankton,

01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:32.840
like what's how, compared to plankton how much plastic debris is there.

01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:36.820
So I don't know.

01:03:37.160 --> 01:03:43.540
I think that we, so some of these
estimates that I told you about today are pretty recent,

01:03:43.540 --> 01:03:47.260
and I don't think that there are great estimates about what,

01:03:49.040 --> 01:03:55.640
what amount of that plastic is in the
the micro plastic or the nano plastic size classification.

01:03:55.640 --> 01:03:58.380
So if I'm I'm interpreting your question correctly,

01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:03.520
I don't I don't know if we're looking at
the plankton how much of it is plastic.

01:04:03.620 --> 01:04:08.040
I think that would vary a lot depending on where you are, how close you are to sources

01:04:08.040 --> 01:04:11.200
if you're in a gyre, if you're not out of the gyre.

01:04:11.640 --> 01:04:15.700
That's a great question though, I know that deserves a lot more research attention to figure that out.

01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:20.260
"-" You know and I think 5 gyres based in Los Angeles has done some work on that.

01:04:20.260 --> 01:04:21.980
So for whoever asked answer that question,

01:04:21.980 --> 01:04:27.020
that might be a good source to get
an accurate response based on the areas.

01:04:27.540 --> 01:04:31.440
Now what about that ocean project,
cleanup project that's just launched.

01:04:31.620 --> 01:04:37.340
It's that young gentleman is it boy, Bowlin
Slat, or something like that.

01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:39.660
What and what are your thoughts on that project.

01:04:40.860 --> 01:04:47.720
I think that is really exciting that someone is tackling that particular patch.

01:04:48.200 --> 01:04:57.760
Again, I want to highlight that we have put 6.3 billion metric tons of plastic into the ocean,

01:04:58.160 --> 01:05:01.780
and I hope I demonstrated for you here today,

01:05:01.820 --> 01:05:05.620
probably only about 1% of that is actually sitting at the ocean surface.

01:05:05.640 --> 01:05:10.000
And so I really applaud that project's cleanup efforts,

01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:16.960
but it is kind of just just one one finger of a hand that is needed to deal with the ocean plastics project

01:05:17.260 --> 01:05:19.520
or excuse me, ocean plastics problem.

01:05:20.460 --> 01:05:23.700
And so while I think it we should absolutely support his efforts,

01:05:23.700 --> 01:05:29.400
there needs to be more of a systemic approach to deal with ocean plastic pollution.

01:05:29.640 --> 01:05:36.180
I was, I was trying to find an analogy for how much plastic so we put,

01:05:36.180 --> 01:05:38.280
estimated to have put into the environment.

01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:43.740
And so essentially, it's every human being on the planet leave.

01:05:43.740 --> 01:05:48.000
We have seven point seven billion people on the planet.

01:05:48.240 --> 01:05:52.380
If every human being on the planet weighed a metric ton,

01:05:52.940 --> 01:06:00.200
we would still not equal the amount of
plastic that we have hypothesized to put into the ocean

01:06:00.200 --> 01:06:03.720
or we'd just be approaching how much plastic we put into the ocean.

01:06:04.180 --> 01:06:06.600
So the scale of the problem is enormous.

01:06:07.140 --> 01:06:11.300
Not to say that we can't do something about it because that's what's so great about plastics,

01:06:11.300 --> 01:06:14.200
it's really an actionable problem.

01:06:15.160 --> 01:06:17.720
A lot of my other work as I
mentioned deals with chemicals,

01:06:17.720 --> 01:06:19.460
and that's so much harder to deal with.

01:06:19.460 --> 01:06:21.600
Where as plastics, we can see a lot of it.

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We can see the large plastics that become
the small plastics and deal with them

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before they even enter the ocean.

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And so the scale of the problem is huge,

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but we can make huge solutions too.

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"-" Yeah absolutely,

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and a lot of people were typing in.

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Some were saying they were upset with their local community

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because they're so picky on what can and can't be recycled.

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How do we educate the youth about this
issue without overwhelming them?

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So I've been trying to send some responses back, at least from my own perspective.

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There are tons of questions.

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We're clearly not going to get to all of them.

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We will we will get a data sheet that gets produced from this webinar that shows

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all the questions that were asked that weren't answered.

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And so, it might be a big daunting task,

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but I'll certainly see if some of them are prominent questions can be answered by Anna

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and then emailed out to all of today's participants.

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So with that, I'm going to go ahead and take control back and go ahead and share my screen.

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I have to find myself on this list.

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Here I am.

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Okay, so just to wrap things up,

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there's also been a lot of questions and
chatting about an archive.

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So where do you watch a recording if you wanted to watch this again

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or share it with a friend or a colleague.

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We do put an archive together of all the webinar recordings.

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They're at that website.

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I will type it into the box.

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It is going to be shared with you over email just shortly following this live presentation.

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There is an email there to sanctuary.education@noaa.gov.

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If you have any follow-up questions, that comes to me,

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and I'll get response to you.

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Everyone that participated today will receive a certificate of attendance that looks just like this

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but with different date and presentation title and presenter.

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And you can use this as a way to show proof of continuing education.

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There are some students participating,

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and you only receive this if you participated in today's live presentation.

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So, that'll be coming shortly in an email.

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Now I am sad to announce that our October webinar presentation on understanding ocean acidification

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has been cancelled.

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Unfortunately, the data in the classroom.noaa.gov resource that's available,

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we still have yet to get the near real-time, in real time ocean acidification data into that system.

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So we hope in the future we'll be able to offer this webinar.

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There were already about 184 people registered,

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so I'm sorry if some of you were registered.

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You will be getting a notification shortly that it's been cancelled.

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But, the good news is we're sticking with the same date and time,

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but we're gonna be offering a different
different ocean acidification presentation.

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So still October 17th at 3:00 p.m. Pacific,

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which is 6:00 p.m. Eastern.

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Still ocean acidification,

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but we're gonna be talking with Dr. Shelly Trigg from the NOAA Northwest fisheries Science Center,

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and she's going to share some of her research on how ocean acidification could impact

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one of our favorite seafoods, the Dungeness crab.

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So you would have to register for this webinar separate from the previous OA one.

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So if this interests you,

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the link will be shared in a follow-up email.

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And I already had mentioned that we do a short short evaluation that pops up the minute this webinar ends.

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It would take you two to three minutes to answer these questions.

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It's really important to the NOAA Office of National Marine Sanctuaries that we get this data,

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this evaluation data, from people that have participated in this webinar series

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so we can see how to make it better and
improve it for the future.

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And we also ask if there's specific topics you're interested in

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and perhaps we can find relevant speakers to present on those topics.

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So as a last reminder,

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national marine sanctuaries help protect the ocean and Great Lakes,

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and I hope to see you on one of our future webinar series.

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With this, this concludes today's live presentation.

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Thank you Anna for a great presentation and a hands-on demonstration of the bird necropsy,

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and we look forward to seeing some of you in the future.

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Thank you.

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"-" Thanks everyone!

