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<v ->Aloha Kākou, Aloha, everyone and welcome</v>

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to our third Thursday presentation.

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Today, we have a wonderful talk for you today

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on extending our ocean reality,

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bringing ancestral and contemporary ocean voyaging

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and exploration to life with extended reality technologies.

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So really exciting and we're also coming to you live

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from the Hōkūleʻa, the Polynesian voyaging canoe,

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which is currently on the West Coast between Canada

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and near the San Juan Island, Washington and Canada,

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and just completed their trip from Alaska.

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We'll be continuing around the Pacific

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and you're gonna hear more about that later.

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But just quickly, a couple of housekeeping things.

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If you are having problems with your audio,

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please make sure to check in the audio panel

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of the GoTo Webinar control panel.

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There, you'll see the settings for your speakers

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and your microphone, so please make sure to check that

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if you are having problems hearing things.

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And if you still have problems,

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please type it into the question box or the chat box,

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and Justin or I will we'll try to get you on

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if you are still having problems presenting.

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But at this time, I am going turn it over to Malia Evans

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for opening protocol to properly open this space

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for our minds and hearts and environment.

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Over to you, Malia.

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<v ->Mahalo nui, Andy.</v>

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As we begin protocol,

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we just wanna send our aloha nui

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out to our Maui community and lift them up.

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Lift up all the people in the communities there.

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Also, as we set this space through protocol

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for the giving and the receiving of information

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and knowledge and we just also lift up

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Papahānaumokuākea as a sacred Hawaiian space that it is.

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So I'm gonna turn off my camera

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and begin our oli - Mele no Papahānaumokuākea.

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(Malia chanting in Hawaiian)

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(Malia chanting in Hawaiian)

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(Malia chanting in Hawaiian)

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(Malia chanting in Hawaiian)

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(Malia chanting in Hawaiian)

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(Malia chanting in Hawaiian)

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<v ->Mahalo, Malia and Mahalo for sending out</v>

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your thoughts to the folks on Maui who are suffering

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and it's really hard to conceive.

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I know our Humpback Whale,

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National Marine Sanctuary site in Kihei

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is offering a lot of support to some of the families there

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who are suffering and that we send out our thoughts

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and prayers to them in this really difficult time.

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So our National webinar, this webinar

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is hosted to our National Marine Sanctuary system,

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and we are a system of 15 National Marine Sanctuaries

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across the United States and out into the Pacific,

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including five proposed National Marine Sanctuaries.

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We have five separate National Marine Sanctuary

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designations going on right now,

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including two out here in the Pacific

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Papahānaumokuākea National Marine Sanctuary

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is being proposed and a Pacific Remote Islands

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National Marine Sanctuary

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is also in the process of being proposed.

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But we represent sites, really diverse sites

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across the United States including some of the unique ones

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such as the Monitor for the Civil War shipwreck

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on the East Coast, the Florida Keys,

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Flower Garden Banks, numerous ones on the West Coast,

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including where Hōkūleʻa is just about to enter now,

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a big coast up in the Northwest of the United States,

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and out here into the Pacific are Hawaiian Islands,

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Humpback Whale National Marine Sanctuary

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and our American Samoa National Marine Sanctuary

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of American Samoa far to the south.

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So it's a very diverse system,

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and if you'd like to get involved

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in either of the designations out here in the Pacific,

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those are the websites,

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but just type in National Marine Sanctuary

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designation for Papānaumokuākea,

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our proposed designation for the Pacific Remote Islands.

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And we'd love to have you get involved in this process

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because we're gonna be holding more meetings

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on both of these proposals,

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and would love the public to be involved

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as much as is possible.

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Currently, we are a marine national monument though.

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Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument

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in the northwestern Hawaiian Islands,

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we're the world's largest fully protected area,

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580,578 square miles of ocean area,

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and if you were to lay it across the United States,

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it would cover an area from about,

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well, the entire Hawaiian Archipelago

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from about New Orleans to Las Vegas.

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So it's pretty vast area in the Pacific,

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all of our national parks could fit within this area.

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So our hosts today are Malia, who you heard before,

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Oʻahu education coordinator, myself, Andy Collins

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and Justin Umholtz is doing technical support

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in the background and he's both of us work over here

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at our Mokupāpapa Discovery Center in Hilo.

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So if you get to Hilo, we'd love to have you come.

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We're open Tuesday through Saturday, nine to four.

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We're a free facility that highlights

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the nature and cultural importance of Papahānaumokuākea,

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we have many beautiful exhibits in a lot the Hawaiʻi,

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Hawaiian language and English,

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and a number of interactive exhibits,

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videos, and other things.

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So we'd love to see you here at the Visitor Center

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for Papahānaumokuākea in Hilo.

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But the sites across the system,

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we protect these sites for their unique biodiversity

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for the shelter they provide,

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for the plants and animals living within them.

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The incredible cultural heritage

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such as this is a picture from Mokumanamana,

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which is the second island

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in the Northwestern Hawaiian Island,

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and shows some unique heiau or sacred sites on this island.

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Also the Maritime Heritage,

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the more recent Western kind of heritage of the region.

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Many shipwreck sites, whaling vessels

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that have gone down within Papahānaumokuākea.

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We also conduct a lot of research in these areas

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to understand how they're doing and then monitor them

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to see from impacts such as climate change,

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human impacts from shore and things like that

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to see how we're doing in regards

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to the management of these areas.

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In some cases, we're actually trying to restore

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some of these areas.

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There's a huge project called Mission Iconic Reef

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in the Florida Keys,

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that is out planting a lot of corals

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to try to restore some of the precious reefs

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down there off the Southern Florida coast.

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We also do a lot of education like this webinar

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and our Mokupāpapa Discovery Center.

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And we also do a lot of outreach in the community

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because we're very community-focused organization.

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We try to get as many people involved

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in sanctuaries as we possibly can.

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at a sanctuary if you are near a National Marine sanctuary,

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please consider volunteering to help,

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these folks are helping to clean up a beach

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and the Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary.

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challenging times we've had recently,

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it's a place where we can kind of reset ourselves

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and restore our connections to nature.

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That's always been there and sometimes,

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we just forget that it's there.

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So I'm gonna ask our presenters to turn on their webinar,

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but we have a few presenters today,

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we have three actually.

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The first is Daniel Kinzer, who has a MS,

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Master's in Science in Biomimicry

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from Arizona State University.

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He's the lead community technology

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at Purple Mai'a Foundation.

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He's also the lead science communication fellow

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with Ocean Exploration Trust,

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and he's a crew member with a Polynesian Voyaging Society

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in the Voyaging Canoe Hōkūleʻa.

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We also have Dr. Brittany Kamai, PhD in physics

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from Vanderbilt University.

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She's a director of integrity and innovation

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for next generation gravitational wave experiment.

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She's a cosmic explorer and crew member

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also with Polynesian Voyaging Society.

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And we also have Megan Cook,

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who's the director of Education outreach

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with Ocean Exploration Trust

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and the exploration vessel, Nautilus

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who you're going to hear more about

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in the coming presentation.

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So I'm gonna turn the presenter over to you, Daniel,

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and turn off my webcam.

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And you should have control to show your PowerPoint.

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<v ->All right, Aloha kākou.</v>

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Everything sound good, look good?

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<v Andy>Looks good, sounds good.</v>

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Mahalo nui Andy, Aloha kākou

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Mahalo to Brittany and to Megan and to Malia

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for that beautiful opening.

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I'm Daniel Kinzer, as introduced,

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the lead community technologist

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with Purple Mai'a Foundation.

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I'm based in Honolulu and privileged to get to join

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with Nautilus and Ocean Exploration Trust

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as a science communication fellow

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going to Papahānaumokuākea next month in September,

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along with Megan, and currently with Brittany

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with Hōkūleʻa in Ganges harbour Salt Spring Island.

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I can turn my camera for those of you who can see me,

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and if you look out into the harbor

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and you got a very keen eye,

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you might be able to spot a Hawaiian flag and the two masts,

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very familiar mass of Hōkūleʻa

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on the far side of that harbor.

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So we're in port today with a good WiFi connection.

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Looking forward to this conversation.

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Over to you, Brittany.

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<v ->Hello, (speaking in foreign language).</v>

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I'm Brittany Kamai.

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I grew up in Pauoa Valley and now live in Waianae on Oʻahu,

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one of our Hawaiian islands.

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I'm super stoked to be here, yes, (indistinct)

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and we wanted to join you from the canoe,

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but we wanna make sure it was not gonna be

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pretty spotty WiFi, so we're lucky for the Harbor Hotel

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to host us here.

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So I'll pass it over to Megan.

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<v ->Hello, Aloha, (speaking in foreign language), everyone.</v>

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I'm Megan Cook, I'm the director

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of education and outreach as introduced.

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A joy where I get to work with a wonderful team

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to think about the deep ocean,

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visit that place, learn from it,

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and share it with the world.

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I'm connected just about 25 miles away from Daniel

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and Brittany today in where I am based

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in Friday Harbor, Washington.

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Although I grew up

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in the Great oceanography state of Idaho.

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So hello to all of you who are not sitting

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along the coastline today,

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and thanks for joining us for this conversation

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to think about and speak about the ocean.

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I have the gift to talk about this really special place

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that we are all near right now, which is the Salish Sea.

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This is a rich and beautiful water place

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and land-based place.

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This is an emerald ocean all summer

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and a crystal blue ocean all winter.

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Some people might know this as a boundary ocean.

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We're near the today border of Canada and the United States,

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but this is a place of deep connection and what we call

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the Salish Sea, these waters that move through this place

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have moved across these boundaries we have

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and linked people as a source of inspiration,

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as a source of connection,

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as a source of sharing since time immemorial.

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So we wanna honor and acknowledge the swirling

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and intense currents of this place.

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This is a very active ocean place on the border

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of Moananuiākea had the gift habit described as fingers

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that reach into the land in this place.

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And so connected to an ocean,

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an ocean inside the land, an ocean out across the world.

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So we honor the coast and straight Salish people

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who have stewarded this place and taught us all

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and had the gifts to teach us all

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what they've learned from this place.

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Salt Spring Island, it is in what we call Canada now.

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but all a part of this ocean place.

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and inspire us and care for these places.

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the opportunity to learn from them.

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<v ->Mahalo, Megan.</v>

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Yeah, I think that each and every one of us

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are occupying some small place on this planet.

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is incredibly valuable.

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And so we're in this webinar today,

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a title is Extending our Ocean Reality,

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and I wanted to ground us with the ocean.

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but maybe that's because we all need our imagination.

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in your mind is a zoom out view, there we go,

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of our planets.

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the Hawaiian islands are towards the top of it.

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the language that Hawaii's very disconnected.

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We're isolated, we're far away.

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as an indigenous people of the Pacific.

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Where when we look at this, this is our watery continent,

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that we travel back and forth all around these places

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on our sea roads.

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not only to the people who are practicing

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and our cultural practice of voyaging,

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but our ancestors are in po.

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It's an incredibly deep, rich word

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that shows up in a lot of our stories,

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not only in Hawaii, but with our family in the Pacific.

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But the ocean is an incredibly sacred space.

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You can go back to that slide.

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So one thing I want to talk about though

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is that if you looked at the story and were like,

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"Oh, how did the Hawaiians get there?"

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You and you didn't have a connection

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with the intelligence of the Pacific,

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you could make up a story that we didn't get there

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on purpose, that it was an accident.

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of traveling across the ocean,

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and so that story could run away with itself.

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And so yeah, you can go into the next slide.

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So luckily, in 2023, we can look at this picture and say,

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"Wow, that is a beautiful ocean vessel."

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so we know that we're voyagers.

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But in the '70s, that story was broken

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and we had no way to tell how Hawaiians got to Hawaii.

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Even though it was in our stories,

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in our dances, in our plants and everything,

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there was not our central object, which is this vessel.

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So Hōkūleʻa was actually initially built as an experiment

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in an academic conversation about how did the Hawaiians

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get to Hawaii.

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But really, she also awoke

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what our ancestral indigenous practice

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of who we are as a people to be out on this vessel

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and doing exactly what my ancestors

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and our ancestors have done.

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And my academic background is in experimental astrophysics

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where we build lasers and we shoot them around

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to try to measure ripples and space and time

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in the universe.

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And somehow we will use the words technology

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to talk about that where it's metal and lasers and mirrors.

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Yet you don't realize that a vessel like this

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is the cutting edge technology that existed

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and still exists at the time.

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So Hōkūleʻa is not only this huge cultural beacon

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that has awakened so many people around the Pacific

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to engage in our practice to be our best self.

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It is technology,

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understood hydrodynamics enough

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and built to build this instrument.

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And then also, the whole knowledge system to go

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across the watery world without an extension like

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like a piece of metal aligning to the magnetic fields

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of the earth.

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Rather, really, this tuning our entire selves

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to be this instrument that was able to receive everything

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not only from the physical realm,

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from like the wind and the waves and the stars,

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but also our spiritual realm.

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So the communication with our (speaking in foreign language)

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our gods, and our ancestors as we move through.

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So this is where I want us to start,

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us thinking about our watery world and what does technology

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look like in the seventies and where we've come to.

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And then connecting with the things

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that then has been leading and thinking about today.

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<v ->Oh, mahalo, Brittany and Megan.</v>

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What a gift to be here today

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on a vessel that's been stewarded by our teachers,

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by the ancestors.

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Hōkūleʻa is a gift from the ancestors from the ocean itself.

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And that deep ocean connection that Brittany's alluding to

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that took peoples of the Pacific all across

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this watery world is really what this project

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that we're gonna talk about was all about.

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Was how could we leverage some of the cutting edge

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technologies of today of 2023,

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especially these extended reality

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or virtual reality technologies.

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How could we utilize those,

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or in what ways was it appropriate to utilize those

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to help us pursue that deep ocean connection

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and give us an opportunity to share what it's like

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to gather on the vessel, to gather on Hōkūleʻa,

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to gather on board the Nautilus.

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And so I had the privilege of being on board the Nautilus

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towards the end of last year and have also put quite a bit

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of energy and love into preparing Hōkūleʻa

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and being with Hōkūleʻa and her crew,

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her other caretakers.

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Over the course of the last few years

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in preparation for Moananuiakea.

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And for me, this relationship that's possible with the ocean

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extends so much more, it's so much deeper

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than what the data can tell us.

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What the scientific,

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what's conceived of is scientific data can tell us.

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And so I share these images from onboard,

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both the Nautilus and Hōkūleʻa.

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This picture was taken just a couple of days ago on the top

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with Brittany talking with our captain, Bruce Blankenfeld,

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who's just a masterful teacher and storyteller and navigator

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and captain and our other crew members, Shoko and Jonah.

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And then down below on the Nautilus last September with Josh

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who leads ROV operations with the Nautilus and Abel.

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It's incredibly incredible engineer electronics master

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from Malaysia and Singapore.

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And that time spent together in relationship as a crew,

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as a community with the ocean, on the ocean, in the ocean,

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traveling far across the surface or going deep

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into the ocean is something that's really special.

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And so I began to wonder how we could leverage

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some of these new technologies

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not to recreate but to help invite people into that space.

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And then of course, not only that,

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we have this incredible need to understand what's happening

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in the Pacific and around our planet as we address things

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associated with climate change,

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all the challenges that are gonna come with that.

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And we can see the storms tracking across the Pacific.

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We know that the fires in Maui that we're still trying

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to process and deal with and will be for a long time,

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but that those were fueled by winds

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that were exacerbated by the hurricane to the south.

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And so, it's all of this complexity,

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all of this is part of this relationship that we have

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with the ocean and that we have together as humans

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and are more than human family.

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And so this is what we're pursuing.

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So I don't want to get too much caught up

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in the technology part.

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We will talk a little bit about what is extended reality

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and what did we do with some young Hawaiians

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that has me excited is early experiment.

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But yeah, I'm really hoping that where we can go

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is deeper into our relationship with each other

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and with the ocean and creating more opportunities

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to gather on the far.

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Anything you wanted to add to that?

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<v ->Yeah, I wanna take a second to reflect on.</v>

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So Bruce Blankenfeld is one of our master navigators

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that we have.

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We're so lucky to have him.

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He's taken on a hard job of trying to figure out

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how do we do our ancestral practices

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and navigating that instruments.

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And what he's been able to do is to learn

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from master navigators around the Pacific,

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who they're so incredibly tuned into what the ocean

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is telling us, what the weather is telling us,

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that they were able to talk about these changes,

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these changes that our earth is going through

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before or alongside the evidence that scientists

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have come up with with the models that we can create.

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And so I asked Dan to put this picture on there

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because this is literally from a few days ago where we have

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these huge hurricanes that are coming through the Pacific

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and our ocean is yelling at us.

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Like she was slowly whispering to us

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like, "Hi, pay attention.

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Y'all need to change what you're doing."

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And now it's at a point where it's like we cannot ignore.

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And how many other people have said it,

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and I'll add to that,

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that that call is that like our ocean is a critical piece

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of everything that happens on this planet.

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So the work of connecting people to the ocean,

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there's so many dimensions to it,

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it's like the connection you have with one another,

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but like the person of who the ocean is

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and how that's gonna help change what we need to do

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to care for our planet.

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So I just wanted to like add that

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into what we're thinking about

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and what we're talking about these days.

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<v ->Yeah, mahalo.</v>

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I think it's so critical that we start to or continue look

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for ways to deepen in our storytelling,

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in our communications, all of the incredible science

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that is being done and also all the incredible

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cultural knowledge and deep knowledge

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that's held within the indigenous communities

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of the Pacific.

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And I think as we start talking a little bit

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about the technology associated with what we did,

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that's really what we're looking for in this experiment,

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in this project is does this new technology provide us

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with a way to more meaningfully communicate

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around all of these complex issues and share our science,

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share our culture together in ways

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that are really gonna help people take action

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and start moving towards a different

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and deeper relationship with the ocean?

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Just a couple of quick videos highlighting

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some of what Ocean Exploration Trust

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and the Polynesian Voyaging Society,

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Nautilus and Hōkūleʻa bring to life.

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<v ->I think, so the video on the left is Hōkūleʻa in action,</v>

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so it's coolest the steering blade, so there's no tiller

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or steering wheel in the water.

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So this is our autopilot,

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so the steering blade's up

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and this is, Hōkūleʻa just like shining.

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And so she's moving with everything.

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Like she's tuned perfectly into the ocean

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and it's so interesting

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that we're right next side by side with her,

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it's like underneath the ocean.

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What we're able to see below the surface.

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So those are the two videos you're looking at.

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<v ->Yeah, thank you, Brittany.</v>

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So that's exactly right.

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So just thinking about,

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I show these mainly 'cause how do we help people

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connect to this?

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The video are powerful tools,

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some of the most powerful technology

518
00:29:15.300 --> 00:29:17.820
that we have or that we're familiar with.

519
00:29:17.820 --> 00:29:20.400
But our mission is how can we go deeper?

520
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:22.470
How can we go further with the canoe?

521
00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:24.990
How can we go deeper into the ocean into understanding

522
00:29:24.990 --> 00:29:27.510
these realms and connecting with them

523
00:29:27.510 --> 00:29:29.760
and realizing how much a part of them we are?

524
00:29:32.070 --> 00:29:34.140
That's where this project started.

525
00:29:34.140 --> 00:29:37.020
So the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation,

526
00:29:37.020 --> 00:29:40.910
thank you for helping to fund this really exciting project

527
00:29:40.910 --> 00:29:44.370
that we called Future Navigators,

528
00:29:44.370 --> 00:29:48.750
where we were supporting young Hawaiians in learning

529
00:29:48.750 --> 00:29:52.350
about XR or extended reality technologies,

530
00:29:52.350 --> 00:29:54.930
ways to create extended reality content.

531
00:29:54.930 --> 00:29:57.480
Some people refer to it as metaverse,

532
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:00.420
you'll hear a lot of different terminology for it.

533
00:30:00.420 --> 00:30:02.370
I don't wanna get too much into the technology,

534
00:30:02.370 --> 00:30:04.770
but we were able to start creating

535
00:30:04.770 --> 00:30:06.900
these 3D immersive worlds,

536
00:30:06.900 --> 00:30:09.000
these non-linear social worlds

537
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.460
that were dynamic and persistent.

538
00:30:11.460 --> 00:30:14.580
Spaces where young Hawaiians could come and hang out

539
00:30:14.580 --> 00:30:18.480
and share their stories and explore stories of Kanaloa.

540
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.680
Alongside stories of science, modern contemporary science.

541
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.490
So we have this mixing of indigenous and Hawaiian science

542
00:30:26.490 --> 00:30:29.730
with modern contemporary science coming together

543
00:30:29.730 --> 00:30:31.707
in this realm of Kanaloa.

544
00:30:31.707 --> 00:30:36.420
And Kanaloa is the Hawaiian Akua or God of the ocean,

545
00:30:36.420 --> 00:30:40.620
is very complex character who has many Kino Lau

546
00:30:40.620 --> 00:30:42.510
or many different bodily forms,

547
00:30:42.510 --> 00:30:45.960
one of them being the octopus or the he'e.

548
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:47.580
But all of life in the ocean

549
00:30:47.580 --> 00:30:50.430
is really a representation of Kanaloa.

550
00:30:50.430 --> 00:30:53.880
And so for us to be able to look at the ocean as something

551
00:30:53.880 --> 00:30:58.880
to connect to personally and start sharing stories around

552
00:30:59.310 --> 00:31:01.020
was really the point of this.

553
00:31:01.020 --> 00:31:02.940
And we'll maybe in the chat,

554
00:31:02.940 --> 00:31:04.501
I think we have a link to this world.

555
00:31:04.501 --> 00:31:08.334
It's built in a platform called spatial.io

556
00:31:08.334 --> 00:31:11.250
and it's a world that allowed the kids to start,

557
00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:13.710
the Hawaiian youth that were in part of our program

558
00:31:13.710 --> 00:31:17.460
and future navigators to start extending their reality a bit

559
00:31:17.460 --> 00:31:19.410
and going into the depths of the ocean

560
00:31:19.410 --> 00:31:20.790
and traveling on the ocean.

561
00:31:20.790 --> 00:31:23.253
And so that's what we're gonna talk about today.

562
00:31:24.450 --> 00:31:26.280
And this is just a quick video

563
00:31:26.280 --> 00:31:28.140
from one of our awesome students,

564
00:31:28.140 --> 00:31:32.774
Hana Le, young opio youth from Hawaii,

565
00:31:32.774 --> 00:31:35.550
who, this is just a short clip,

566
00:31:35.550 --> 00:31:38.250
but this is the kind of experiences

567
00:31:38.250 --> 00:31:40.080
that people were having

568
00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:42.360
and you can hear how Hana Le reflect.

569
00:31:42.360 --> 00:31:44.943
I hope the audio is working on this.

570
00:31:46.800 --> 00:31:48.380
<v Attendee>Yeah, I don't think the audio is coming across,</v>

571
00:31:48.380 --> 00:31:51.176
so you might wanna narrate the video is.

572
00:31:51.176 --> 00:31:54.377
<v ->Oh, so I'll play this video.</v>

573
00:31:54.377 --> 00:31:57.810
In this video, Hana Le is talking about, I say,

574
00:31:57.810 --> 00:31:59.370
I say, "Hana Le, don't be scared."

575
00:31:59.370 --> 00:32:01.470
He says, "I'm not scared."

576
00:32:01.470 --> 00:32:04.620
He goes, "This is kind of like my dream.

577
00:32:04.620 --> 00:32:07.110
This is kind of like my dream."

578
00:32:07.110 --> 00:32:09.630
And he's exploring through the realm of Kanaloa

579
00:32:09.630 --> 00:32:13.310
and he's traveling back up to a world we'll share with you

580
00:32:13.310 --> 00:32:16.230
in a minute, which is called our XR Nautilus,

581
00:32:16.230 --> 00:32:17.340
not the EV Nautilus,

582
00:32:17.340 --> 00:32:20.790
but the XR Nautilus that was built in a collaboration

583
00:32:20.790 --> 00:32:24.360
with Megan and Ocean Exploration Trust and their team.

584
00:32:24.360 --> 00:32:28.053
So young people coming into this and being able to enter

585
00:32:28.053 --> 00:32:31.139
into these dream worlds where they're really, really drawn

586
00:32:31.139 --> 00:32:33.330
some of them for the first time,

587
00:32:33.330 --> 00:32:35.820
some of them on longstanding relationships

588
00:32:35.820 --> 00:32:37.413
with the ocean and Kanaloa.

589
00:32:38.850 --> 00:32:40.800
But they're able to draw on those and enter

590
00:32:40.800 --> 00:32:44.430
into those relationships in ways that perhaps

591
00:32:44.430 --> 00:32:45.690
is a bit more powerful

592
00:32:45.690 --> 00:32:48.813
than with other available technologies.

593
00:32:50.820 --> 00:32:53.030
Let's see if I can get to the next slide.

594
00:32:56.490 --> 00:32:59.250
<v ->And I so love that moment with Hana Le.</v>

595
00:32:59.250 --> 00:33:01.590
It is such this,

596
00:33:01.590 --> 00:33:04.713
we think about technology, phone, computer,

597
00:33:06.796 --> 00:33:09.420
but we were so honored to be a supporter and to be drawn in

598
00:33:09.420 --> 00:33:13.110
as a partner in this work imagining community.

599
00:33:13.110 --> 00:33:14.610
Connection to community,

600
00:33:14.610 --> 00:33:18.240
whether that's brand new or deep and long imagination,

601
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:19.890
stories as technology.

602
00:33:19.890 --> 00:33:22.980
So just to introduce folks,

603
00:33:22.980 --> 00:33:25.633
if you're not familiar with Ocean Exploration Trust,

604
00:33:25.633 --> 00:33:28.260
I have the joy to work with this team.

605
00:33:28.260 --> 00:33:30.960
We are a deep ocean exploring organization

606
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:34.470
and from western science practice,

607
00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:37.770
these are many of the ways we go and find out what we know

608
00:33:37.770 --> 00:33:40.410
or what we want to discover, what we want to explore,

609
00:33:40.410 --> 00:33:41.247
learn about the ocean.

610
00:33:41.247 --> 00:33:45.510
And we use technologies like large robotic vehicles,

611
00:33:45.510 --> 00:33:50.400
modern exploration oceanographic ships, acoustic sonars,

612
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:52.350
and we learn things about the ocean.

613
00:33:52.350 --> 00:33:55.200
Now, in the bridge to the conversation of today,

614
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.530
one of the best parts about our work is that we used

615
00:33:58.530 --> 00:34:01.560
a suite of different technologies called telepresence,

616
00:34:01.560 --> 00:34:04.563
which mean we can bring people and share those moments.

617
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:08.670
We saw the whale fall on the sea floor earlier.

618
00:34:08.670 --> 00:34:11.190
That was a moment that millions of people got to see

619
00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:13.500
either live or in the video.

620
00:34:13.500 --> 00:34:15.480
Afterwards, dialogue and talk about

621
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.880
what it was like to be genuinely surprised.

622
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.403
I was in the control room when that happened.

623
00:34:21.420 --> 00:34:25.620
We could not have sought out a whale fall

624
00:34:25.620 --> 00:34:27.000
had that been our full intent.

625
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.370
It was just a moment where the ocean

626
00:34:29.370 --> 00:34:31.200
fully, fully surprised us.

627
00:34:31.200 --> 00:34:35.190
So from this place where OET is conducting science

628
00:34:35.190 --> 00:34:37.740
from this western approach and our goals to,

629
00:34:37.740 --> 00:34:39.900
as we move across (speaking in foreign language),

630
00:34:39.900 --> 00:34:42.540
incorporate more of the traditional knowledge

631
00:34:42.540 --> 00:34:44.970
and beyond this like one way that we know

632
00:34:44.970 --> 00:34:46.740
with western science practice,

633
00:34:46.740 --> 00:34:48.990
all the other practices of ways that we know

634
00:34:48.990 --> 00:34:50.731
about these spaces.

635
00:34:50.731 --> 00:34:55.350
Whether that is a three-dimensional bathymetric map.

636
00:34:55.350 --> 00:34:56.700
Sure, that's one way,

637
00:34:56.700 --> 00:34:57.810
but what are all the other ways

638
00:34:57.810 --> 00:35:00.270
that we can know and care and connect about this place

639
00:35:00.270 --> 00:35:02.490
and who are the other experts that we can pull in?

640
00:35:02.490 --> 00:35:05.310
So really honored, we can go on to the next slide,

641
00:35:05.310 --> 00:35:08.100
but in our approach of how we think about

642
00:35:08.100 --> 00:35:09.000
and share the ocean,

643
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.620
we have a whole suite of different programs and resources.

644
00:35:13.620 --> 00:35:15.930
Some of those are education resources,

645
00:35:15.930 --> 00:35:18.600
some of those are live and interactive programs

646
00:35:18.600 --> 00:35:22.590
where we have dialogues and we really inspired

647
00:35:22.590 --> 00:35:26.100
and led by Daniel picked from that menu

648
00:35:26.100 --> 00:35:28.560
and then just provided those tools to youth.

649
00:35:28.560 --> 00:35:32.610
And we're so honored to be a very small part of this

650
00:35:32.610 --> 00:35:34.800
and to see all the places where they took that.

651
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.860
So I just wanna call out a few pieces

652
00:35:37.860 --> 00:35:40.680
that you might see later as we're exploring this world.

653
00:35:40.680 --> 00:35:43.110
One started off as a virtual field trip,

654
00:35:43.110 --> 00:35:47.490
which was the baby step into the XR world of being able

655
00:35:47.490 --> 00:35:49.830
to go on board Nautilus and see it

656
00:35:49.830 --> 00:35:52.320
in an extremely factual manner.

657
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.480
We extended that in this project.

658
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.340
Daniel extended that Purple Mai'a Foundation.

659
00:35:56.340 --> 00:35:59.250
All of the students with their stories and imagination

660
00:35:59.250 --> 00:36:02.730
extended that to reflect the world as they see it.

661
00:36:02.730 --> 00:36:06.900
So if you would like to see the world as a camera sees it,

662
00:36:06.900 --> 00:36:11.100
we invite you to check out this virtual field trip models,

663
00:36:11.100 --> 00:36:13.440
whether that's Lego or 3D visuals,

664
00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.960
these things that we provide supported by partners,

665
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.210
these programs that we can dialogue

666
00:36:18.210 --> 00:36:21.063
about the ocean in one way,

667
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:24.840
but this story is really about how we took

668
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:28.110
these pieces parts and then just handed them to folks

669
00:36:28.110 --> 00:36:30.880
with such deep connection or emerging connection

670
00:36:32.002 --> 00:36:35.190
and we're blown away by all the things that they built

671
00:36:35.190 --> 00:36:37.350
and the stories and connections we could make

672
00:36:37.350 --> 00:36:39.240
that go so far beyond.

673
00:36:39.240 --> 00:36:42.933
So onto XR Nautilus.

674
00:36:44.190 --> 00:36:45.023
<v ->Thanks, Megan.</v>

675
00:36:45.023 --> 00:36:48.090
I also just wanna give a plug to OET.

676
00:36:48.090 --> 00:36:51.460
It is amazing how Ocean Exploration Trust opens up

677
00:36:52.500 --> 00:36:55.440
what they're seeing and what's happening on board the ship

678
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.810
and what's happening in the deep ocean to the world.

679
00:36:57.810 --> 00:37:00.750
So definitely give them a follow on Nautilus live

680
00:37:00.750 --> 00:37:02.580
and you're welcome to sign up.

681
00:37:02.580 --> 00:37:04.920
I'm excited to be on board through most of September

682
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:05.970
in Papahānaumokuākea.

683
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:11.430
And open to doing live ship to shore interactions

684
00:37:11.430 --> 00:37:15.750
with classrooms, with laboratories, with community partners

685
00:37:15.750 --> 00:37:19.563
and organizations so I hope people will take us up on that.

686
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.470
I just wanna talk a little bit about what we did.

687
00:37:22.470 --> 00:37:24.180
So thanks to the resources

688
00:37:24.180 --> 00:37:27.180
that Ocean Exploration Trust provided us,

689
00:37:27.180 --> 00:37:31.170
we're able to start building out this 3D world.

690
00:37:31.170 --> 00:37:36.170
And so, let me see if I can pull this over to actually enter

691
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.049
into XR Nautilus.

692
00:37:40.049 --> 00:37:42.494
So give me just a second.

693
00:37:42.494 --> 00:37:45.930
I wanna try to pull that up and take us in.

694
00:37:45.930 --> 00:37:48.980
I think you all can see this now and see if this will...

695
00:37:50.397 --> 00:37:52.533
See how good the internet really is.

696
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:58.191
So what you're seeing here,

697
00:37:58.191 --> 00:38:03.191
this is the platform spatial.io and what we have,

698
00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:06.240
hopefully, there's not too much lag,

699
00:38:06.240 --> 00:38:10.830
but what we have here is a 3D model of the Nautilus

700
00:38:10.830 --> 00:38:15.510
and it's been sculpted combined with other imagery

701
00:38:15.510 --> 00:38:18.540
and a Matterport file that creates

702
00:38:18.540 --> 00:38:22.800
that photographic virtual tour Megan was just describing.

703
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:24.569
Some of you I think might be popping in here now,

704
00:38:24.569 --> 00:38:25.950
or you certainly can.

705
00:38:25.950 --> 00:38:29.640
If we put the link in the chat to XR Nautilus

706
00:38:29.640 --> 00:38:33.060
and I can run around this world with my avatar

707
00:38:33.060 --> 00:38:34.950
and I can enter into the ship.

708
00:38:34.950 --> 00:38:38.250
So I have the ability to come over here and, oh,

709
00:38:38.250 --> 00:38:40.380
we still have Argus loading.

710
00:38:40.380 --> 00:38:43.290
Oh, I think maybe it's, there it is.

711
00:38:43.290 --> 00:38:47.127
There's Argus on the deck, on the back deck of Nautilus.

712
00:38:47.127 --> 00:38:49.683
And so this became our virtual classroom.

713
00:38:50.520 --> 00:38:53.320
Here's Hercules in the ROV hangar

714
00:38:54.180 --> 00:38:57.270
and I was able to gather here with students

715
00:38:57.270 --> 00:38:59.520
and they were able to add to this environment

716
00:38:59.520 --> 00:39:03.120
and create their own 3D models or find new ones.

717
00:39:03.120 --> 00:39:05.220
Here I am up on the social deck where you saw me

718
00:39:05.220 --> 00:39:07.860
in the photo earlier with Josh and Abel.

719
00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:11.670
I can hop into the mess if I'm getting a little hungry.

720
00:39:11.670 --> 00:39:13.800
They do 3 PM cookies on board the Nautilus

721
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:16.590
if you're ever lucky enough to head in there.

722
00:39:16.590 --> 00:39:18.450
So you can go through this,

723
00:39:18.450 --> 00:39:21.720
you can explore the bridge of the ship, the wet lab,

724
00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:23.883
all different kinds of environments.

725
00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.500
Every open public room in the ship,

726
00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:30.450
you can go into an explore.

727
00:39:30.450 --> 00:39:33.390
And I really, really appreciated

728
00:39:33.390 --> 00:39:36.780
that this became a kind of classroom

729
00:39:36.780 --> 00:39:40.650
that really shifted some of the young people's perspectives

730
00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:42.600
and it was something that they wanted to build,

731
00:39:42.600 --> 00:39:44.340
they wanted to contribute to.

732
00:39:44.340 --> 00:39:47.340
And I was just imagining if all of our science,

733
00:39:47.340 --> 00:39:51.872
if all of our culture could be shared in a way

734
00:39:51.872 --> 00:39:54.720
that we were able to communicate it in a way

735
00:39:54.720 --> 00:39:56.490
that was as engaging as this,

736
00:39:56.490 --> 00:39:58.851
nothing's ever gonna beat or replace

737
00:39:58.851 --> 00:40:00.450
sitting on (speaking in foreign language)

738
00:40:00.450 --> 00:40:02.280
or being out on the water.

739
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:05.610
And yet we know that that experience is hard to create

740
00:40:05.610 --> 00:40:07.140
for all of our young people

741
00:40:07.140 --> 00:40:10.470
who would be able to benefit from that.

742
00:40:10.470 --> 00:40:12.330
So I welcome you on board the XR Nautilus.

743
00:40:12.330 --> 00:40:14.400
I hope you'll still listen to a little bit

744
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.070
of what we're talking about while we move forward

745
00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:18.030
with the presentation.

746
00:40:18.030 --> 00:40:21.090
But yeah, we're really excited

747
00:40:21.090 --> 00:40:22.683
to share these spaces with you.

748
00:40:23.940 --> 00:40:28.710
Let me see if I can get back to, sorry, this slideshow.

749
00:40:32.370 --> 00:40:35.850
So that was the first sort of course

750
00:40:35.850 --> 00:40:37.906
that we taught in the program.

751
00:40:37.906 --> 00:40:41.790
It was called Kai Hohonu XR Deep Sea XR,

752
00:40:41.790 --> 00:40:44.340
done in collaboration with Ocean Exploration Trust

753
00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:45.990
and featuring the Nautilus,

754
00:40:45.990 --> 00:40:47.820
featuring their expedition season

755
00:40:47.820 --> 00:40:50.880
so that learners could start to see all the different places

756
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:53.160
that the ship would be traveling.

757
00:40:53.160 --> 00:40:55.140
It's down in, I believe Johnson had told,

758
00:40:55.140 --> 00:40:56.760
Megan couldn't correct me if I'm wrong,

759
00:40:56.760 --> 00:40:59.973
but probably making their way back home next week,

760
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:03.240
doing some deep sea mapping and surveying

761
00:41:03.240 --> 00:41:05.280
with the ROVs down there.

762
00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:08.250
So just a really spectacular way to kinda create

763
00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:11.580
an environment that could invite young people on board

764
00:41:11.580 --> 00:41:14.040
and get them excited about scientific careers,

765
00:41:14.040 --> 00:41:16.260
about the importance of culture.

766
00:41:16.260 --> 00:41:20.280
We can embed protocol into these spaces.

767
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.830
You can host many different people including classes

768
00:41:22.830 --> 00:41:24.900
in these kinds of environments.

769
00:41:24.900 --> 00:41:27.180
And so that was the first part of the project

770
00:41:27.180 --> 00:41:30.060
where we tried to see what we could create in XR,

771
00:41:30.060 --> 00:41:33.220
learn some of the basic technologies and go deep

772
00:41:34.227 --> 00:41:36.753
into the ocean, down into the realm of Kanaloa.

773
00:41:39.030 --> 00:41:42.210
After that, we decided that the next course

774
00:41:42.210 --> 00:41:44.580
we wanted to offer was Voyaging XR.

775
00:41:44.580 --> 00:41:48.030
And we were partnered with Polynesian Voyaging Society

776
00:41:48.030 --> 00:41:50.474
in preparation for their Moananuiakea voyage,

777
00:41:50.474 --> 00:41:54.540
a voyage for Earth, voyage for oceans, a voyage for Earth.

778
00:41:54.540 --> 00:41:57.360
We wanted to see if we could bring this voyage to life

779
00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:00.090
utilizing some of these technologies.

780
00:42:00.090 --> 00:42:05.090
And so again, we invited students, Hawaiian youth

781
00:42:05.133 --> 00:42:09.780
to join us in exploring the resources available

782
00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:13.740
on Hōkūleʻa's website, Hōkūleʻa.com

783
00:42:13.740 --> 00:42:15.300
and their educational resources

784
00:42:15.300 --> 00:42:16.187
at (speaking in foreign language).

785
00:42:17.640 --> 00:42:19.320
And take these resources

786
00:42:19.320 --> 00:42:22.230
and the knowledge and experience that their families had,

787
00:42:22.230 --> 00:42:25.140
that their communities had, that they had personally

788
00:42:25.140 --> 00:42:27.030
with the ocean and with canoes.

789
00:42:27.030 --> 00:42:30.540
And start to tell those stories and tell the story

790
00:42:30.540 --> 00:42:33.690
of the Moananuiakea voyage and XR.

791
00:42:33.690 --> 00:42:35.414
And so that produced this,

792
00:42:35.414 --> 00:42:38.730
the students learned how to use a tool called Blender

793
00:42:38.730 --> 00:42:41.790
and turned this image of the expedition map,

794
00:42:41.790 --> 00:42:46.680
of the voyage map into a 3D environment.

795
00:42:46.680 --> 00:42:47.880
And what we could put the link

796
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.000
to this Moananuiakea world as well.

797
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:54.150
You may be able to navigate there through portals

798
00:42:54.150 --> 00:42:56.460
in the XR Nautilus world.

799
00:42:56.460 --> 00:42:59.310
But this became a place for the young people

800
00:42:59.310 --> 00:43:03.321
to build their own sometimes with Play-Doh and Legos,

801
00:43:03.321 --> 00:43:06.095
sometimes using cardboard and paper,

802
00:43:06.095 --> 00:43:09.060
but sometimes, using advanced technology.

803
00:43:09.060 --> 00:43:11.760
They were using an application called polycam to do

804
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:15.150
scannings of LiDAR and photogrammetry.

805
00:43:15.150 --> 00:43:17.220
We were taking some of those things underwater

806
00:43:17.220 --> 00:43:21.120
so they could scan coral reefs and creatures

807
00:43:21.120 --> 00:43:22.530
under the water.

808
00:43:22.530 --> 00:43:24.870
Usually experimenting with those techniques,

809
00:43:24.870 --> 00:43:26.790
not having very much success,

810
00:43:26.790 --> 00:43:29.400
but seeing the challenge of working in the field

811
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:31.870
and developing these kinds of 3D environments

812
00:43:32.940 --> 00:43:35.160
and mostly just diving into the story,

813
00:43:35.160 --> 00:43:38.070
what is Moananuiakea all about?

814
00:43:38.070 --> 00:43:41.360
Why are we sailing around the Pacific?

815
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.550
Why is it important to connect with our indigenous friends

816
00:43:44.550 --> 00:43:47.070
and families around this ocean

817
00:43:47.070 --> 00:43:50.040
and combine science with culture to figure out

818
00:43:50.040 --> 00:43:51.810
how to protect this place?

819
00:43:51.810 --> 00:43:55.110
And those are stories that are hard to live in just text

820
00:43:55.110 --> 00:43:58.470
or even just in video or images.

821
00:43:58.470 --> 00:44:00.240
There's something about this immersive

822
00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:04.803
extended reality environment that that opens things up

823
00:44:04.803 --> 00:44:07.680
for a little bit more complexity to live.

824
00:44:07.680 --> 00:44:11.010
And so excited to see as we continue to make our way

825
00:44:11.010 --> 00:44:13.290
around the Pacific over the next four years,

826
00:44:13.290 --> 00:44:14.700
how we can start building out

827
00:44:14.700 --> 00:44:16.200
more and more of these stories.

828
00:44:16.200 --> 00:44:20.790
I have the drone with us on this particular leg, leg six,

829
00:44:20.790 --> 00:44:23.700
and have put it up a couple of times to start seeing

830
00:44:23.700 --> 00:44:26.550
if we can build 3D models of some of the places

831
00:44:26.550 --> 00:44:27.383
that we've been.

832
00:44:27.383 --> 00:44:29.940
So leveraging tools that are pretty accessible

833
00:44:29.940 --> 00:44:31.980
to our communities and that we're excited to put

834
00:44:31.980 --> 00:44:33.905
into the hands of young people

835
00:44:33.905 --> 00:44:38.042
to see what they wanna build and can build

836
00:44:38.042 --> 00:44:39.930
and not get distracted by,

837
00:44:39.930 --> 00:44:43.500
but take deeper dives into the significance

838
00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:46.200
of these practices of these places and ultimately,

839
00:44:46.200 --> 00:44:49.110
of our profound sacred relationship

840
00:44:49.110 --> 00:44:51.013
with the ocean and Kanaloa.

841
00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.560
So I'm gonna stop there

842
00:44:55.560 --> 00:44:58.800
and we'll move to questions in just a minute,

843
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:03.800
but I really wanna stop sharing screen

844
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:08.010
and just take a second to hear from Brittany and Megan,

845
00:45:08.010 --> 00:45:10.020
if you hear something and you want to jump in as well,

846
00:45:10.020 --> 00:45:14.850
please feel free, but the question remains,

847
00:45:14.850 --> 00:45:18.720
can these technologies, these new technologies,

848
00:45:18.720 --> 00:45:20.820
can they help us go deeper?

849
00:45:20.820 --> 00:45:24.718
And the whole point of this is that it was an experiment.

850
00:45:24.718 --> 00:45:27.930
It was a project to see what the young people

851
00:45:27.930 --> 00:45:31.590
would be able to do, how they would engage.

852
00:45:31.590 --> 00:45:34.560
But we're walking a fine line in an age where so much

853
00:45:34.560 --> 00:45:37.320
of our so-called technology is a distraction,

854
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.300
is something that disconnects us.

855
00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:43.650
The language we use around our technology separates us.

856
00:45:43.650 --> 00:45:45.660
And just like Brittany started talking to us

857
00:45:45.660 --> 00:45:47.280
about we are not separated,

858
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.800
we are deeply connected and the ocean connects us

859
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.520
and we wanna be utilizing technologies like the vaʻa,

860
00:45:53.520 --> 00:45:56.307
like the voyaging canoe that reconnect us

861
00:45:56.307 --> 00:45:58.290
and deepen that connection.

862
00:45:58.290 --> 00:45:59.790
And it's the same thing to be said

863
00:45:59.790 --> 00:46:03.150
of the Nautilus technologies and those ROV systems

864
00:46:03.150 --> 00:46:06.030
and mapping systems is how can these technologies

865
00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:09.000
be utilized to help us deepen our relationship

866
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:09.833
with the ocean?

867
00:46:09.833 --> 00:46:12.843
So yeah, Brittany, I don't if you have some thoughts,

868
00:46:12.843 --> 00:46:15.000
I'd love to hear them.

869
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.140
<v ->Absolutely, thoughts that you know, of course. (chuckles)</v>

870
00:46:19.140 --> 00:46:21.206
Yeah, I think like one thing

871
00:46:21.206 --> 00:46:24.090
like Dan and I have talked about,

872
00:46:24.090 --> 00:46:26.940
and I kinda wanted to bring it to this audience

873
00:46:26.940 --> 00:46:28.410
to seed you on your way,

874
00:46:28.410 --> 00:46:33.410
is that there's this conflict in me

875
00:46:34.110 --> 00:46:39.090
and my background is, I wanna explore and I'm gonna work

876
00:46:39.090 --> 00:46:42.360
on building the most precise instruments to do so.

877
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.070
And I understand how we do that

878
00:46:44.070 --> 00:46:47.880
by really intricately understanding how light works,

879
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:49.350
how sound works.

880
00:46:49.350 --> 00:46:54.233
This is all the technology behind LiDAR, sonar,

881
00:46:54.233 --> 00:46:56.403
it's the physics of what happens.

882
00:46:58.350 --> 00:47:01.230
That's in tension with understanding

883
00:47:01.230 --> 00:47:03.363
what sacred practices are.

884
00:47:04.395 --> 00:47:07.680
And so there are places that we're not meant to see,

885
00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:10.473
we're not meant to hear at all.

886
00:47:12.527 --> 00:47:16.020
There are times when you bow your head and you walk away

887
00:47:16.020 --> 00:47:19.890
and you don't look at things in a cultural practice.

888
00:47:19.890 --> 00:47:23.940
So then if I take this exploratory thing and I start looking

889
00:47:23.940 --> 00:47:26.100
at something and I don't have a sense

890
00:47:26.100 --> 00:47:29.820
of what even is that cultural protocol to do that,

891
00:47:29.820 --> 00:47:33.240
let alone like sharing that around the world.

892
00:47:33.240 --> 00:47:36.630
I think we're in a really tricky area.

893
00:47:36.630 --> 00:47:39.030
And that conflict comes up too

894
00:47:39.030 --> 00:47:40.590
when I see images from the deep,

895
00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:44.430
like first I worry about the creatures because now,

896
00:47:44.430 --> 00:47:47.160
we're like throwing photons like light at them

897
00:47:47.160 --> 00:47:49.140
and we're throwing sound at them

898
00:47:49.140 --> 00:47:52.110
and I worry about them and I also worry

899
00:47:52.110 --> 00:47:54.513
about how did we enter that realm.

900
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:58.826
How did we enter into this sacred place, po?

901
00:47:58.826 --> 00:48:03.570
There's so much depth to that in just spiritually

902
00:48:03.570 --> 00:48:06.337
and just physically on our planet.

903
00:48:06.337 --> 00:48:10.350
And when I'm gonna take an instrument

904
00:48:10.350 --> 00:48:14.043
like a robot or any rover,

905
00:48:15.041 --> 00:48:18.360
I have a responsibility to that in the way

906
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:19.830
that I would my child.

907
00:48:19.830 --> 00:48:21.303
Like this is my kin.

908
00:48:22.350 --> 00:48:24.120
And in technology, we absolutely

909
00:48:24.120 --> 00:48:26.550
do not have that conversation, right?

910
00:48:26.550 --> 00:48:28.770
I don't go and write a piece of code and then now,

911
00:48:28.770 --> 00:48:31.650
it's my responsibility to know what the code

912
00:48:31.650 --> 00:48:34.893
does until it's 18 and then it goes on its very way.

913
00:48:35.850 --> 00:48:38.892
And so when we're really talking about these relationships,

914
00:48:38.892 --> 00:48:42.900
what does it look like when we're gonna have a practice

915
00:48:42.900 --> 00:48:43.860
with our robot?

916
00:48:43.860 --> 00:48:46.324
And it's a totally different thing.

917
00:48:46.324 --> 00:48:48.960
We don't yet have robot protocol,

918
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.500
we don't have rover protocol, we don't have sensor protocol,

919
00:48:52.500 --> 00:48:54.760
but the same way our ancestors in the past

920
00:48:55.830 --> 00:48:58.440
ran into new things is that you developed

921
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:00.240
what you needed to develop.

922
00:49:00.240 --> 00:49:02.370
So it's like, I think that's the thing

923
00:49:02.370 --> 00:49:05.550
that I keep feeling a tension with.

924
00:49:05.550 --> 00:49:09.183
Of like, do we have to see the deep to protect it?

925
00:49:11.950 --> 00:49:13.585
<v ->I love it, I love it.</v>

926
00:49:13.585 --> 00:49:15.960
I know I wanna open it up for questions too

927
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:19.020
and others might have similar questions to that.

928
00:49:19.020 --> 00:49:22.560
I just wanna add that I think this conversation

929
00:49:22.560 --> 00:49:26.460
about what is pono, what is appropriate, what is balanced,

930
00:49:26.460 --> 00:49:30.780
what is right, I think it's a big question,

931
00:49:30.780 --> 00:49:34.800
especially with in the extended reality.

932
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.770
What are the protocol that can shape that space?

933
00:49:37.770 --> 00:49:40.470
As we do reach out into space time

934
00:49:40.470 --> 00:49:42.060
and we'd go deep into the ocean

935
00:49:42.060 --> 00:49:45.090
or we go far out into space and the ways that we're able

936
00:49:45.090 --> 00:49:47.850
to communicate around that and the intention

937
00:49:47.850 --> 00:49:49.890
with which we come to those spaces

938
00:49:49.890 --> 00:49:52.653
and the humility with which we enter into those spaces.

939
00:49:53.790 --> 00:49:58.590
How do we cultivate that given the risk

940
00:49:58.590 --> 00:50:01.260
that it becomes so easy to just flip a switch

941
00:50:01.260 --> 00:50:03.300
and I can turn on the bottom of the ocean

942
00:50:03.300 --> 00:50:07.080
or the depths of outer space or can travel

943
00:50:07.080 --> 00:50:11.520
through time because we can image different times and places

944
00:50:11.520 --> 00:50:15.400
with these technologies and if it becomes too easy

945
00:50:16.886 --> 00:50:19.170
and too convenient, then do we lose

946
00:50:19.170 --> 00:50:21.390
some of the what's sacred about that?

947
00:50:21.390 --> 00:50:25.020
And how do we make sure we keep reminding ourselves

948
00:50:25.020 --> 00:50:26.880
of not to go on that journey?

949
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.340
So there's a powerful ethical questions

950
00:50:29.340 --> 00:50:31.620
and important conversation.

951
00:50:31.620 --> 00:50:33.480
So Megan, I see you popping on.

952
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.720
Do you wanna add your (speaking in foreign language)?

953
00:50:36.720 --> 00:50:38.490
<v ->Oh, thank you so much, Mahalo.</v>

954
00:50:38.490 --> 00:50:39.923
Yeah, I would love to,

955
00:50:39.923 --> 00:50:42.880
I think this conversation is so important

956
00:50:45.324 --> 00:50:47.490
and one of the most beautiful things about the ocean

957
00:50:47.490 --> 00:50:52.230
is to me is it's like sheer scale and power.

958
00:50:52.230 --> 00:50:55.230
And one of the things I value as someone

959
00:50:55.230 --> 00:50:57.330
who wants to learn about the ocean,

960
00:50:57.330 --> 00:50:59.670
I think we'll spend my whole life learning about the ocean

961
00:50:59.670 --> 00:51:01.773
as I hope all of us will,

962
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.460
is that idea of knowledge being,

963
00:51:05.460 --> 00:51:06.980
you can't like go get it.

964
00:51:06.980 --> 00:51:10.470
It has to be revealed in its time and in its place.

965
00:51:10.470 --> 00:51:13.770
And I just wanna uplift and echo

966
00:51:13.770 --> 00:51:17.100
like how much indigenous leaders

967
00:51:17.100 --> 00:51:19.380
are the future of this space

968
00:51:19.380 --> 00:51:21.420
and the leaders learning from

969
00:51:21.420 --> 00:51:24.510
and leading from that deep relationship.

970
00:51:24.510 --> 00:51:27.840
And by being able to have conversations

971
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.120
that go beyond these like little boxes that we put,

972
00:51:30.120 --> 00:51:33.090
like we're learning, we're exploring,

973
00:51:33.090 --> 00:51:36.300
and about how we can enter different places,

974
00:51:36.300 --> 00:51:39.300
all across the Pacific and who are the right leaders

975
00:51:39.300 --> 00:51:44.010
who, if relationship is built and trust is built,

976
00:51:44.010 --> 00:51:48.120
can lead scientists, technology developers, educators,

977
00:51:48.120 --> 00:51:52.530
managers, policy and government.

978
00:51:52.530 --> 00:51:54.660
These relationships in this knowledge exists

979
00:51:54.660 --> 00:51:59.460
and the more we elevate indigenous leaders in these spaces

980
00:51:59.460 --> 00:52:04.170
so that different knowledge will be revealed to people

981
00:52:04.170 --> 00:52:06.270
who have different relationship to this place.

982
00:52:06.270 --> 00:52:09.870
And they'll be able to bring in practices

983
00:52:09.870 --> 00:52:13.530
and guidance that should be humbly received

984
00:52:13.530 --> 00:52:15.330
by the rest of the community,

985
00:52:15.330 --> 00:52:17.550
by which how to hold yourself in that space

986
00:52:17.550 --> 00:52:20.250
and how to approach if you have that same desire to learn

987
00:52:20.250 --> 00:52:21.083
about that ocean?

988
00:52:21.083 --> 00:52:26.070
So just wanna echo how honored we are as a team to be,

989
00:52:26.070 --> 00:52:28.890
baby steps learning, but I hope on behalf

990
00:52:28.890 --> 00:52:31.620
of other communities that can follow in this

991
00:52:31.620 --> 00:52:35.160
about how to put indigenous leaders front and center

992
00:52:35.160 --> 00:52:36.600
in your organizations.

993
00:52:36.600 --> 00:52:40.473
Empower them, trust them and those people

994
00:52:40.473 --> 00:52:42.030
will have different relationship,

995
00:52:42.030 --> 00:52:44.190
different opportunity to have knowledge revealed,

996
00:52:44.190 --> 00:52:45.750
different opportunities to like lead

997
00:52:45.750 --> 00:52:47.370
in these creative directions.

998
00:52:47.370 --> 00:52:49.980
And I think that is super key

999
00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:54.660
in how we advance both that ethics and those boundaries

1000
00:52:54.660 --> 00:52:57.961
of knowing when and where it's time

1001
00:52:57.961 --> 00:53:02.373
to stop and reflect and regroup or reconsider or reimagine

1002
00:53:04.050 --> 00:53:06.540
the right questions, let alone different answers.

1003
00:53:06.540 --> 00:53:09.693
But back to Brittany, your thoughts.

1004
00:53:12.293 --> 00:53:14.733
<v ->Mahalo, Megan, Mahalo, Brittany.</v>

1005
00:53:16.200 --> 00:53:17.490
And Andy.

1006
00:53:17.490 --> 00:53:19.830
I just Andy, see you coming on 'cause maybe we have

1007
00:53:19.830 --> 00:53:21.090
a few questions I hope.

1008
00:53:21.090 --> 00:53:25.350
I hope people are are curious about this.

1009
00:53:25.350 --> 00:53:26.490
<v ->Yeah, they are,</v>

1010
00:53:26.490 --> 00:53:31.223
I mean mostly just alohas and some of the people

1011
00:53:33.540 --> 00:53:36.030
you visited along the coast from Alaska

1012
00:53:36.030 --> 00:53:41.030
were saying hi and grateful to see you again and so grateful

1013
00:53:41.100 --> 00:53:42.660
for your visit and connect

1014
00:53:42.660 --> 00:53:46.743
with the different tribal communities along the coast.

1015
00:53:48.180 --> 00:53:50.520
And one question was,

1016
00:53:50.520 --> 00:53:52.470
and then we did post the link in the chat

1017
00:53:52.470 --> 00:53:55.380
was whether the tools would be publicly available

1018
00:53:55.380 --> 00:54:00.380
for the exploration tools and we posted that.

1019
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.610
So yes, I don't know if you wanna add anything to that,

1020
00:54:05.610 --> 00:54:07.320
Daniel or Brittany about people

1021
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:10.863
using those io tool exploration tools.

1022
00:54:12.510 --> 00:54:15.780
<v ->Yeah, I'll just say that all the tools</v>

1023
00:54:15.780 --> 00:54:19.880
that we chose were designed to be...

1024
00:54:22.200 --> 00:54:24.960
That we could at least facilitate access to those tools

1025
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:25.860
for our community.

1026
00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:29.040
I won't say that they're all open and free.

1027
00:54:29.040 --> 00:54:31.300
Spatial is a tool that you can use for free

1028
00:54:32.580 --> 00:54:35.340
and a tool called polycam,

1029
00:54:35.340 --> 00:54:38.780
which is a software that allows you to use LiDAR

1030
00:54:38.780 --> 00:54:43.780
in your phones or iPads and photogrammetry

1031
00:54:43.800 --> 00:54:47.940
or structure from motion to do 3D scans to actually create

1032
00:54:47.940 --> 00:54:50.400
what we call meshes and textures so that you can start

1033
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.473
building things in these 3D worlds.

1034
00:54:53.630 --> 00:54:56.820
That's also available for free.

1035
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There are paid options,

1036
00:54:57.900 --> 00:55:01.170
but if you have questions about the technologies,

1037
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I would really welcome you to reach out to me

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00:55:03.870 --> 00:55:07.800
at dan@purplemaia.org and I can try to put that

1039
00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:10.320
into the chat as well so people have access to that.

1040
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.430
But we're happy to share that,

1041
00:55:14.430 --> 00:55:17.617
we're excited about these tools

1042
00:55:17.617 --> 00:55:22.617
and would for people to reach out if they have

1043
00:55:25.350 --> 00:55:28.350
more questions about the specific technologies that we use.

1044
00:55:28.350 --> 00:55:30.322
The spatial environments we created,

1045
00:55:30.322 --> 00:55:32.822
we're also happy to share.

1046
00:55:32.822 --> 00:55:35.670
And you have the couple that we showed today,

1047
00:55:35.670 --> 00:55:38.770
but there are many, many more that were created by the youth

1048
00:55:40.170 --> 00:55:43.260
and by our team and we'd love for people to get in there

1049
00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:46.263
and add their own stories and build their own spaces.

1050
00:55:48.240 --> 00:55:49.080
<v ->Great.</v>

1051
00:55:49.080 --> 00:55:51.480
And one specific question,

1052
00:55:51.480 --> 00:55:55.320
have you considered XR for real time collaboration?

1053
00:55:55.320 --> 00:56:00.320
Like for example, using a VR headset to see what the ROV is

1054
00:56:01.410 --> 00:56:03.123
while it's exploring the bottom?

1055
00:56:05.100 --> 00:56:06.030
<v ->That's a great question</v>

1056
00:56:06.030 --> 00:56:09.390
for Megan and her team I think.

1057
00:56:09.390 --> 00:56:13.080
But yes, in terms of life on board the voyaging canoe

1058
00:56:13.080 --> 00:56:15.630
and I think at least in my own imagination,

1059
00:56:15.630 --> 00:56:16.950
life on board Nautilus,

1060
00:56:16.950 --> 00:56:19.680
it would be we're getting closer and closer

1061
00:56:19.680 --> 00:56:23.280
to the point where our telepresence capabilities,

1062
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:27.150
our map can align with some of our other software

1063
00:56:27.150 --> 00:56:29.130
and hardware that that's gonna allow us

1064
00:56:29.130 --> 00:56:30.960
to share those experiences

1065
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.280
in 3D and in real time or near real time.

1066
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.740
So that is the direction that things are moving in

1067
00:56:37.740 --> 00:56:41.160
and we are interested and thinking about that

1068
00:56:41.160 --> 00:56:43.221
and being very deliberate and careful

1069
00:56:43.221 --> 00:56:46.053
about what that looks like and means.

1070
00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.370
But yeah, that's a cool question and excited.

1071
00:56:50.370 --> 00:56:51.540
There are folks in the audience

1072
00:56:51.540 --> 00:56:55.899
who are also scheming in that direction.

1073
00:56:55.899 --> 00:56:58.983
Megan, do you wanna add your thoughts to that question?

1074
00:57:00.278 --> 00:57:01.950
<v ->We love that question.</v>

1075
00:57:01.950 --> 00:57:05.790
I think one of the beautiful things I've gotten to learn

1076
00:57:05.790 --> 00:57:08.130
is how you learn with five senses

1077
00:57:08.130 --> 00:57:10.920
from the Hawaiian worldview and the connection there.

1078
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:12.690
We're not there yet to five senses

1079
00:57:12.690 --> 00:57:14.313
of the deep sea, for sure.

1080
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:17.880
But I am excited that folks are thinking

1081
00:57:17.880 --> 00:57:20.250
about more of this immersion and I wanna invite you

1082
00:57:20.250 --> 00:57:22.800
to join us on a Nautilus expedition

1083
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:24.480
where we're going to be testing

1084
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:26.460
some additional technology this season.

1085
00:57:26.460 --> 00:57:29.433
So Nautilus is broadcasting 24 hours a day.

1086
00:57:30.750 --> 00:57:31.583
I should have checked,

1087
00:57:31.583 --> 00:57:33.030
I believe they're on the sea floor now

1088
00:57:33.030 --> 00:57:34.923
or they will be in the next 12 hours.

1089
00:57:35.940 --> 00:57:38.610
And we have these sequences of expeditions that continue

1090
00:57:38.610 --> 00:57:39.480
all throughout the year.

1091
00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:42.420
We'll be in Papahānaumokuākea in September

1092
00:57:42.420 --> 00:57:46.260
and then October, we'll be testing some new camera systems

1093
00:57:46.260 --> 00:57:49.740
that will better allow or allow us to explore

1094
00:57:49.740 --> 00:57:51.060
some of this model building.

1095
00:57:51.060 --> 00:57:54.753
Again, we're not there yet on real time in 3D.

1096
00:57:55.590 --> 00:57:58.650
Be kinda cool though 'cause everything behind you

1097
00:57:58.650 --> 00:58:01.140
would be the ROV from where the cameras are right now.

1098
00:58:01.140 --> 00:58:03.720
But envisioning that our main ROV

1099
00:58:03.720 --> 00:58:05.280
is about the size of a minivan.

1100
00:58:05.280 --> 00:58:09.090
So like also imagining where would you want to look?

1101
00:58:09.090 --> 00:58:12.630
And in the very most basic sense,

1102
00:58:12.630 --> 00:58:15.450
we only bring a few lights that only go in one direction.

1103
00:58:15.450 --> 00:58:18.720
So in thinking about like an immersive view

1104
00:58:18.720 --> 00:58:21.210
may kind of look a little bit like this out into the light,

1105
00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:24.060
but what could you see looking back into the darker,

1106
00:58:24.060 --> 00:58:26.040
what could you see looking out in any of the directions

1107
00:58:26.040 --> 00:58:28.060
or using more of your senses.

1108
00:58:28.060 --> 00:58:29.700
So that's where my mind goes.

1109
00:58:29.700 --> 00:58:32.850
I imagine myself when we have the chance

1110
00:58:32.850 --> 00:58:35.970
these like privileged views to look into the ocean,

1111
00:58:35.970 --> 00:58:38.669
I kinda always imagined like, what if you turned around?

1112
00:58:38.669 --> 00:58:39.680
What might you see?

1113
00:58:39.680 --> 00:58:41.250
So I love that creativity,

1114
00:58:41.250 --> 00:58:43.410
imagination from the audience and we're going there.

1115
00:58:43.410 --> 00:58:45.160
We have have some visions for sure.

1116
00:58:47.820 --> 00:58:52.820
<v ->Yeah, well, Mahalo, everyone for your great presentation.</v>

1117
00:58:54.390 --> 00:58:56.490
We are running by running out of time.

1118
00:58:56.490 --> 00:59:00.096
We have a couple of additional connections

1119
00:59:00.096 --> 00:59:02.760
that we can explore in the future.

1120
00:59:02.760 --> 00:59:06.663
But mahalo nui loa for a wonderful talk and for dialogue,

1121
00:59:07.620 --> 00:59:11.430
Brittany and Daniel and Megan, it was very inspiring

1122
00:59:11.430 --> 00:59:16.320
and so many more things to come for the future on this.

1123
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:18.280
But thank you again for joining us

1124
00:59:19.200 --> 00:59:22.830
and I'm gonna close with a few additional slides.

1125
00:59:22.830 --> 00:59:24.120
So just to let you know,

1126
00:59:24.120 --> 00:59:28.230
this webinar was recorded and we will be posting

1127
00:59:28.230 --> 00:59:32.610
the recording after we get it transcribed in about 10 days

1128
00:59:32.610 --> 00:59:34.980
to the website that you see there.

1129
00:59:34.980 --> 00:59:37.470
But also on there we have many other webinars

1130
00:59:37.470 --> 00:59:38.340
that we've done.

1131
00:59:38.340 --> 00:59:41.490
So please explore that site with yourself,

1132
00:59:41.490 --> 00:59:43.380
your classroom, your friends,

1133
00:59:43.380 --> 00:59:45.957
and you can learn many things about Papahānaumokuākea

1134
00:59:45.957 --> 00:59:48.600
and the Office of National Marine Sanctuaries.

1135
00:59:48.600 --> 00:59:51.773
And you'll also beginning a certificate

1136
00:59:51.773 --> 00:59:56.241
for participating in this, for professional development.

1137
00:59:56.241 --> 00:59:59.610
An hour was worth a professional development.

1138
00:59:59.610 --> 01:00:02.850
And as mentioned numerous times throughout the talk,

1139
01:00:02.850 --> 01:00:06.030
please make sure to connect with Hōkūleʻa

1140
01:00:06.030 --> 01:00:08.760
during the Moananuiakea voyage.

1141
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:12.237
There is an objective for this voyage

1142
01:00:12.237 --> 01:00:15.840
and it is to reconnect people with the earth,

1143
01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:20.040
with their environment and what we're doing.

1144
01:00:20.040 --> 01:00:22.860
So please be a part of that.

1145
01:00:22.860 --> 01:00:25.080
There's virtual ways to connect

1146
01:00:25.080 --> 01:00:29.790
in the waahonua.com educational part of it,

1147
01:00:29.790 --> 01:00:32.820
and also just to follow the voyage and the blogs

1148
01:00:32.820 --> 01:00:34.740
and the postings and the videos and everything

1149
01:00:34.740 --> 01:00:36.227
that comes off the voyage.

1150
01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:40.752
And of course the Nautilus is currently live

1151
01:00:40.752 --> 01:00:45.752
and in the Pacific Remote Islands south of us.

1152
01:00:46.590 --> 01:00:48.840
So please join along with that expedition.

1153
01:00:48.840 --> 01:00:51.870
And then at the beginning of September,

1154
01:00:51.870 --> 01:00:55.260
they will be voyaging to Papahānaumokuākea.

1155
01:00:55.260 --> 01:00:57.150
So please follow along in that voyage.

1156
01:00:57.150 --> 01:00:58.440
And if you have a classroom,

1157
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.170
please sign them up for ship to shore interaction

1158
01:01:01.170 --> 01:01:06.170
off of the nautiluslive.org site.

1159
01:01:06.330 --> 01:01:10.750
And finally, please fill out our survey for what else

1160
01:01:12.510 --> 01:01:14.640
you'd like to see in these presentations

1161
01:01:14.640 --> 01:01:17.220
because we would love to hear from you

1162
01:01:17.220 --> 01:01:20.880
and we would love to hear what else you want us to cover.

1163
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.640
So again, mahalo nui loa for all the presenters

1164
01:01:23.640 --> 01:01:25.830
and for everyone attending.

1165
01:01:25.830 --> 01:01:27.780
That was a wonderful talk and we look forward

1166
01:01:27.780 --> 01:01:31.230
to more dialogue on this subject in the future.

1167
01:01:31.230 --> 01:01:33.045
So (speaking in foreign language)

1168
01:01:33.045 --> 01:01:34.410
and next month, we'll have another presentation.

1169
01:01:34.410 --> 01:01:35.313
So, mahalo.

1170
01:01:36.420 --> 01:01:40.335
<v ->Mahalo, Andy and Aloha from the whole crew of Hōkūleʻa.</v>

1171
01:01:40.335 --> 01:01:42.003
I appreciate everyone tuning in.

1172
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:48.139
<v ->Alright, big voyage.</v>

1173
01:01:48.139 --> 01:01:48.972
Aloha.

1174
01:01:50.105 --> 01:01:50.938
<v ->Aloha.</v>