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Aloha everybody and welcome to our third Thursday webinar
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for this month.
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We have a really great presentation for you today
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about one of our most beloved visitors to Hawaiʻi,
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the the Kōlea or the Pacific golden-plover,
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and our awesome guest Susan Scott,
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who's the president of Audubon Society.
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Before we get started,
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just a couple of housekeeping details.
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If you are having problems with your audio,
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please check the audio settings
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in the go-to webinar control panel
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that should be on your right as you join the webinar,
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just make sure it's set to whatever audio you're using,
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whether you're using headphones or speakers.
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If you check that, that usually resolves any of the issues.
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But if you still do have problems,
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please type those in the question bar or the chat
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and we'll do what we can to help you resolve that
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so you can hear the presentation.
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Also, if you do have any questions
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during the webinar for Susan,
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if we can get to them at the end,
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type those in the question bar as well
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and we'll also be posting some resources in the chat
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for you to look at.
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But before we get started, as is proper in Hawaiʻi,
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we open with a protocol to open the space to learning
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and to better understand what we're learning
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and to embrace it.
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And I'm going to turn it over to Malia Evans
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for opening protocol.
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Aloha mai kākou
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Let's prepare ourselves for our protocol.
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(chant in Hawaiian language)
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Mahalo Malia
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So it's wonderful to and the space
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and to embrace new understandings and learning
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and meet new friends.
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So before, just wanna give you a little bit of background
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about the your National Marine Sanctuary System.
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So your system is part of 15 National Marine Sanctuaries
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across the United States.
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We have four proposed new national Marine sanctuaries,
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including us out here in the Pacific
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the Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument,
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and it embraces also two marine national monuments,
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which of course is us,
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as well as American Samoa
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or the Rose Atoll Marine National Monument.
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This is your National Marine Sanctuary system
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and it goes from coast to coast
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and includes incredible sights also in the Great Lakes
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such as Thunder Bay National Marine Sanctuary,
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and Wisconsin Shipwreck Coast,
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and the new one potentially
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Lake Ontario National Marine Sanctuary.
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Those sites particularly protect
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some underwater maritime heritage.
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And also we have a new heritage,
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potential heritage site on the West coast
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in Chumash Heritage National Marine Sanctuary
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that's being proposed.
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So this is your National Marine Sanctuary system,
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our underwater parks.
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So if you are near any these sites,
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please go visit them and enjoy these spectacular places.
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But we work for Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument
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in the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands.
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So we're the largest,
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the world's largest fully protected area,
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having 582,578 square miles of ocean area,
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encompassing only six square miles of land
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within that vast area.
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But we are being proposed
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as a National Marine Sanctuary site,
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but also co-managed with the area's co-managed
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with the US Fish and Wildlife Service,
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the Office of Hawaiian Affairs,
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and the State of Hawaiʻi.
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And if we were overlaid this area
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or the whole Hawaiian Archipelago over the United States
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who would stretch from about New Orleans to Las Vegas.
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So it's a vast area about what's that,
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about a quarter the size of the whole United States.
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And our host today for your webinar are myself,
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Andy Collins, an Education Coordinator for Papahānaumokuākea
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and Malia Evans, who's on O'ahu
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and our Education and Outreach person on O'ahu.
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But I work over here in Hilo
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at our Mokupāpapa Discovery Center.
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And if you are in Hilo,
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please make some time to come visit us.
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We are open Tuesday through Saturday, nine to four.
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We're the only interpretive center for Papahānaumokuākea
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for the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands.
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We have beautiful exhibits in English and Hawaiian language,
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a beautiful 3,500 gallons, but water, aquarium,
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many other exhibits throughout an incredibly beautiful
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and historic building on the Hilo Bay front for three.
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So we hope you can come and see us
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and learn more about this amazing place.
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But sanctuary across the system
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are there to protect the incredible biodiversity
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of these areas.
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They provide shelter for threatened and endangered species
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such as this Hawaiian monk seal and green sea turtle,
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enjoying a moment on the beach at French Frigate Shoals.
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Also for the cultural heritage in Papahānaumokuākea
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we have some amazing cultural sites
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from back when Hawaiians were living on these islands,
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even to today when these islands are being used
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as a navigational training ground, and also,
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or cultural heritage of those spaces.
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We also protect maritime heritage,
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we have more recent maritime travels, such as deep sea ship,
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such as shipwrecks in the Great Lakes
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and in Papahānaumokuākea
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and conduct research on the wildlife
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and the habitats within these places.
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And so we can monitor them over time
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for things like impacts like climate change
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and other coastal impacts to these areas.
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And broader ocean impacts such as marine debris.
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In some cases, we're able to do marine resource protection
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and conservation.
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There's a fantastic program in the Florida Keys
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where they're trying to out-plant corals
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on a number of different sites
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and restore some of those sites in the Florida Keys.
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We also do a lot of education such as this program
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to try to inspire the next generation
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to connect with our oceans and to help protect them.
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And we do outreach events where we go out into the community
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and we're only able to do this with our volunteers.
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So if you are interested in volunteering,
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please connect with your local sanctuary site
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and see how you can help.
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There's everything to do from beach cleanups
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to working in discovery centers
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to a whole range of opportunities for volunteering
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to help protect these special places.
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And again, they are, they're amazing places.
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These are places where we can reconnect with our spirit
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to understand our connection to nature, to recreate,
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to fish, to do other things.
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So if you are in or near these areas,
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please reconnect with these places.
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And Susan, you can turn on your webcam
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and your microphone right now and I will introduce you.
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So our presenter today is Susan Scott.
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She's the President of the Hawaiʻi Audubon Society,
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but she also wrote a weekly column called Ocean Watch
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for the Honolulu Star Advertiser from '87 to 2020
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and is the author of 10 books about nature in Hawaiʻi.
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Two recent books about the Kōlea Pacific golden-plover
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and the Manu-o-Kū, White Tern.
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In 2020, she helped revise the seventh edition
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of the Hawaiʻi Audubon Society's book "Hawaiʻi Birds"
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Her interest in Native birds
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resulted in the Audubon Society Board directors
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electing her president in January 2022.
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She's a former registered nurse,
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earned a bachelor's degree from the University of Hawaiʻi,
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and is a graduate of the university's Marine Option Program
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Go (indistinct).
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Where she studied marine journalism
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and as a volunteer with US Fish and Wildlife Service,
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she has counted albatross at Midway tagged crabs on Palmyra
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rescued monk seals and sea turtles,
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at French Frigate Shoals.
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And her newspaper column
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unfortunately was discontinued due to the pandemic.
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But through her work with Audubon Society,
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she continues sharing her enthusiasm
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for Hawaii's remarkable Native species.
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So I'm going to turn presenter over to you, Susan,
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and we'll make sure everything is working good here.
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Is your audio on?
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Yes, I'm good.
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Can you hear me?
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Yes, so you should have presenter now.
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Okay.
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Ready to go?
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Yeah, I don't see your screen just yet.
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Okay, now it's coming up.
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Good.
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There we go, you're good to go.
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I'm gonna go mute, mute myself.
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Can I turn off Andy, can I turn off?
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Yes.
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The, I can't see my own screen very well.
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Oh, I see.
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I can make myself smaller.
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Yeah, there you go.
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But I don't wanna turn myself off.
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(laughing) No.
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Yeah, yeah okay.
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And I can make, okay.
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All right, well, thank you for joining me in my,
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the Hawaiʻi Audubon Society's program,
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Citizen Science Program to monitor our
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and appreciate our Kōlea birds we already know and love.
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And one of the things that we talked about when we,
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before we started this program was almost all,
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any of us here about Hawaiiʻs birds, it's bad news.
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They're extinct.
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There's a whole book about the extinct birds of Hawaiʻi
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that Michael Walter wrote and just did a new addition in 22.
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There's headlines, they're all about extinction,
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and there's even a children's book about extinct birds.
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And so one of the things we really wanted to point out
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and to just celebrate is that some of the birds,
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our Native birds are doing really well.
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And so we wanted to celebrate those birds
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and the three species
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that we chose out of Pacific golden-plover
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and the Manu-o-Kū, white tern
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and the ʻUa'u kani wedge-tailed shearwaters.
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And so those three programs in the Hawaiʻi Audubon
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all have citizen science projects that you can find out
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lots about on our Hawaiʻi Audubon website under what we do.
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But the one thing I'm gonna talk about this time
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is the, guess which one.
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You could tell which one this is
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by the golden colors in the feather,
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and that is the Pacific golden-plover.
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Oops.
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The Kōlea in Hawaiian.
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And so as a writer I like to not use a lot of adjectives,
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but when you're talking about our Kōlea,
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we always say they're gorgeous, they're friendly,
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they have all of these great attributes
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that most of us love, and that is our Pacific golden-plover,
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Native shorebirds here.
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So the ancient Hawaiians also revered the plover.
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There was the Kōleamoku
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they called the Plover god of art of Healing.
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And this was a painting done by a Russian a painter
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on a Russian ship in 1816.
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And there's a Kōlea on top of the statue.
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This is in Kailua-Kona.
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And when it was restored in the 1970s,
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people who restored it also put the Kōleamoku
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on top of the statue.
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It's very same.
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And they keep it this,
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I just took this picture a couple months ago.
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So it's the Kōleamoku is still there, the patron of Kahuna.
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The ancient Hawaiians also ate Kōlea,
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of course, you'd eat anything you could catch.
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And they caught the Kōlea with these stones
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called Kōlea stones.
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And wrap a piece of line around there,
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put a grub and a fish hook on the end
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or a hook and then that would catch the birds.
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So as late as 1883,
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they were still menus on the ʻIolani Palace menus.
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They were meals.
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So the entrees were plover and breakfast.
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Their breakfast was plovers on toast.
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People shot plovers up until 1939
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and they had a limit of 15 a day.
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But Wally Johnson, who studied them all of his life,
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tells me that the numbers went well over 15 a day.
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And when the numbers started really decreasing,
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people became alarmed
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and made a ban on hunting Kōlea in 1939.
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And then in 1941, we all know what happened in Hawaiʻi.
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This is Waikīkī,
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and the hunting ban became permanent for Kōlea after that.
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All right, so we have our first poll.
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So let's see who is paying attention.
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Let us bring up that poll.
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So the question is,
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Kōlea, were once on menus at ʻIolani Palace
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revered by ancient Hawaiians as a god of healing,
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shot as game birds or all of the above?
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So go ahead and register your vote.
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And I see about half of you have voted.
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And we'll close out the poll in three, two, and one.
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And let's get you those results, Susan.
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All right, well here are some interesting numbers.
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We, 96% of our attendees think all of the above.
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2% shot as game birds.
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1% of them said revered by ancient Hawaiians
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and 2% said on menus at ʻIolani Palace.
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So 96%, all of the above.
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How'd they do Susan?
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Great, that's A plus.
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Thank you.
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Okay, we call these migratory shorebirds
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even though we don't often see them on the shore.
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I did see a couple on at Mokulēʻia Beach Park on the shore,
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but they also eat fish,
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which is a very rare picture
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that was sent by a friend Robert Weber.
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And Wally was very excited about this picture
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because we don't usually see them fishing and eating fish.
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This was in on Maui.
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But mostly the great thing about these birds
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is they have learned to live not only with us humans,
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but with the changes that we've made in their environment.
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And that's one of the reasons
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that they think they're doing quite well.
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So they have, they like our golf courses,
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they like our miniature golf courses
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'cause it's covered with the AstroTurf and the insects
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and other bugs that they eat can't escape.
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So we've seen them there.
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This, the one on the right was swimming in a pool of a hotel
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I stayed at in Kauaʻi recently.
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And the other one that this funny story about the car
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is that the bird thought there was another bird
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in this rental car that the owner's brother rented a car
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and parked it in the middle of the Kōlea's territory
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on the yard.
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And he kept pecking at the car
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trying to get to scare away the other bird.
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So people feed them,
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they call them and they come when they call.
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They've really learned to adjust to living with humans.
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This is just a picture of one that a friend sent me
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in the middle of a very busy intersection
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on the Pali Highway and Kamehameha Highway
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that's pretty much there all the time.
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And here's a video that the guy who's brother rented the car
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sent me is very funny.
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This bird trying to chase away the bird in its reflection.
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You can see his reflection in the car
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and then he can't quite make it.
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So he ran around the other side of the car
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to see if the bird was over there.
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But he entertained the family for quite some time.
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So the Plovers have really adjusted
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to our environmental changes.
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Of course the islands don't look anything
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like what they used to have before humans are here.
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And the one great thing about them,
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and the reason we can count them
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is because they're very territorial.
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So even in our parks,
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in our yards and all commotion that's going on,
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if we startle them like this lawnmower in Kailua Beach Park,
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they come back to the same place.
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Here's one that's at in Kāne'ohe that was a rare white one.
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And you could see that it was not bothered by people
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or even a dog lying there.
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Lots of traffic there.
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I named this bird Blanche.
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The other thing is they have really adapted well
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to all of the introduced insects
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and pests that we have introduced to Hawaiʻi,
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including centipedes, cockroaches,
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anything that crawls
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and earthworms are not native to Hawaiʻi.
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But the birds love them
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and they hunt for anything they can find.
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And I just wanna mention too, that a lot of these photos,
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gorgeous photos are sent to me by Kōlea fans
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and photographers and people who take nice pictures
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and allowing me to share them.
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So thank you for that.
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They like to sleep on flat rooftops or slanted rooftops too.
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The people ask me often where they go at night
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and they usually sleep up on rooftops and flat places
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to get away from predators.
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They're very predator alert.
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So they do fairly well and sleep up high.
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And the one with all of the birds at the bottom is UH Hilo.
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Someone sent me this last year.
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Is also in Hilo,
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it's an elementary school whose mascot is the Kōlea.
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And so I was just there recently
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and we took a nice picture this spring
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of the students and teachers welcoming back their bird.
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All right, we have our next poll ready to go.
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So the questionnaire is,
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what is a common English name of the Kōlea?
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And your choices are the Yellow-spotted curlew,
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Tawny Turnstone, Pacific golden-plover
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or the Wandering wimbrel.
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So go ahead and whoa, you guys are quick.
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We have like 75% of you who have voted
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and I'm gonna shut down the poll in three, two, and one.
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And let's see how you all did.
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All right Susan.
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So once again we have an overwhelming vote for 98%
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of our attendees think it's a Pacific golden-plover.
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Are they correct?
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Yes, that's right.
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And Wally tells me you can say Plover or Plover.
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Both are correct either way.
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Hello?
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You're good to go Susan.
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Good to go.
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Okay, alright.
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So the other thing is we also have,
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besides the Plovers learning to live with us,
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we have learned here in Hawaiʻi to really live with them
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and to really like them.
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I went to the bank and my banker had these pictures
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and I said, what are these pictures that you (indistinct)
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"Oh, that's, I just like the birds so much
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"and this is near where I live.
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"So I made a little poster for my desk
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"so I can see the birds while I work."
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Another, this is a mosaic that's made a big one
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that's several feet tall and wide
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in front of a church in Kailua,
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that's an artist made and put up in front of a church.
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And a woman sent me a copy of a painting that she had made
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of the Pacific golden-plover.
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And this is Becky
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who lives in the front yard of one of my neighbors.
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And Suzanne makes sure
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that she always has water in the dishes
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so Becky can have a drink of water.
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So the thing is we all have really learned,
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they've learned to love us
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and we've learned to love them back,
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which is really unusual for native birds
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'cause we usually think of them as being shy
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and it's hard to approach some birds but not these.
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So as I said, they're territorial and they're site faithful,
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which means they go back to the same place year after year.
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If they survived one winter in a place,
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they'll come back to that winter and defend it.
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These are two birds fighting over a space in Punchbowl
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where we are doing some studies.
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And so it was really interesting to see if another bird gets
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in one another one's space, it will fight it for its space
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and it'll fight other species too.
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So they look different in the winter.
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All the males and females look alike in the winter
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and in the spring they start molting their winter feathers
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and growing in their spring breeding feathers
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and the males put on their tuxedos
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and the females all have speckled breasts.
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That's how you can tell the difference.
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You can only tell the difference starting about now
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they're starting to change in March and in April.
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And if they have a speckled breast,
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it's a female and if they're solid like that, it's male.
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So they come one person wrote me and said,
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"I had a bird in my yard all winter,
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"but now I have a different one.
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"Do you think the second one chased away the first?"
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But I think it was probably the same bird
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'cause they really look different.
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So it could have been this bird in the winter at the top,
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either skinny or fat, depending on when you see them.
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And then the male and females look really different.
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And there's a picture together.
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So you can tell the difference.
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In 1979, Wally Johnson started the Plover project
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because we really, really
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did needed to get some information.
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So that's one of the things we're doing now
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is putting little satellite tracking tabs
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on the bird's backs, those little backpacks
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and finding out some, getting some information.
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So Wally is in charge of that.
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He has been studying these birds for 60,
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70 years and is still going strong.
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He's arriving next week for some more work
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and he has done a lot of work on this.
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So the dark blue here is the range of the wintertime
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space that the Plovers go to.
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And in the summer, in the spring, excuse me,
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and early summer they go to the Arctic.
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And so there's a couple populations of Plovers.
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We have our own here in Hawaiʻi
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and we ours go from Hawaiʻi to Alaska nonstop
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3000 miles in three days both ways.
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They leave in April and come back in August
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and the another population is at
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flies to the South Pacific nonstop.
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But on the way back they stop in Japan to refuel.
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They eat bugs and insects in the Japanese rice fields
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and then they go on to Alaska.
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So it's interesting
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they can make it all the way down south in the spring,
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but when they go in the fall,
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but when they go back to Alaska, they have to stop.
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Kōlea by the way means one who takes and leaves.
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So the Hawaiians knew that they would come fatten up
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and then leave.
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And this is a map of one of Wally's mini studies
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of the Hawaiian Island birds.
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So you can see late April,
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the yellow ones go in late August they come back.
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The oldest bird that Wally has ever banded was 21 years
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and some months we don't know exactly
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because you don't know how old they are
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when they're banded.
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But this banded bird we've named Mr. X
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'cause he's in the X section of Punchbowl cemetery.
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And he was banded 20 years, 10 months ago.
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And if he makes one more round trip
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Wally says he will make the record for the all time
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oldest bird Plover that we know of.
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And so if you have a bird in your yard,
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you may have a friend for a really long time.
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The departure dates are end of April, beginning of May.
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This was gathering each year at Ford Island
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that a reader sent me.
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And so even though we know something about the Plovers,
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there's still a lot of things we don't know.
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And so one of my ideas for Hawaiʻi Audubon Society
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was to sponsor a study where people see these birds,
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we know them, they're in our yards, they're all over.
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We say if you record some of this information
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that you have anyway because we're out walking
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and seeing these birds, maybe we'll get some data
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that we can actually know more about the birds.
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So one question is when they come and go,
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let's see yeah, do they,
519
00:28:57.330 --> 00:28:58.980
when do they arrive and when do they leave?
520
00:28:58.980 --> 00:29:02.670
Is it the same day or does it vary?
521
00:29:02.670 --> 00:29:03.693
So here's another.
522
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.553
All right, so here's our third poll for you folks.
523
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:10.860
And the question is,
524
00:29:10.860 --> 00:29:15.480
Hawaiʻi Kōlea fly 3000 miles nonstop to Alaska,
525
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.870
rest on the ocean surface during migration.
526
00:29:18.870 --> 00:29:23.870
Are excellent swimmers leave Hawaiʻi for Alaska in June.
527
00:29:23.910 --> 00:29:27.420
So go ahead and register your vote friends.
528
00:29:27.420 --> 00:29:32.420
And I am gonna close out the poll in three, two and one.
529
00:29:36.090 --> 00:29:38.220
And here are your results Susan.
530
00:29:38.220 --> 00:29:43.220
So 87% said fly 3000 miles nonstop to Alaska.
531
00:29:45.120 --> 00:29:48.450
9% said leave Hawaiʻi for Alaska
532
00:29:48.450 --> 00:29:52.140
and 4% said rest on the ocean during migration.
533
00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:54.630
So what is the correct answer?
534
00:29:54.630 --> 00:29:55.680
The correct answer is
535
00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.550
they fly 3000 miles nonstop to Alaska.
536
00:29:59.550 --> 00:30:04.550
They do not rest on the ocean ever because they cannot swim.
537
00:30:04.560 --> 00:30:07.050
So if they get onto the ocean,
538
00:30:07.050 --> 00:30:10.800
they would die and they don't leave for Alaska in June.
539
00:30:10.800 --> 00:30:14.010
Those are the ones that spend the summer here.
540
00:30:14.010 --> 00:30:16.410
They leave in April and May.
541
00:30:16.410 --> 00:30:17.430
If they're here in June,
542
00:30:17.430 --> 00:30:18.930
they're here for the summer.
543
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:24.207
Okay, so the other thing is the number of,
544
00:30:29.370 --> 00:30:31.980
we don't know if the number of Kōlea
545
00:30:31.980 --> 00:30:33.930
is increasing or decreasing.
546
00:30:33.930 --> 00:30:35.850
And people have asked me about that
547
00:30:35.850 --> 00:30:39.765
and I say that's one of the reasons we're doing this,
548
00:30:39.765 --> 00:30:43.380
this study is to try to find that answer
549
00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:46.503
'cause we don't know if the number is stable.
550
00:30:48.060 --> 00:30:50.640
And the also we wanna know how many spend the winters here.
551
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:51.960
That's the same thing.
552
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:54.300
And the thing in June that I just said,
553
00:30:54.300 --> 00:30:55.590
if you see one in June,
554
00:30:55.590 --> 00:30:59.100
that means the bird didn't migrate to Alaska
555
00:30:59.100 --> 00:31:00.450
because it's too thin
556
00:31:00.450 --> 00:31:03.960
or it's something was wrong with it may have been injured.
557
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.660
But the interesting thing is
558
00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:08.940
we don't know how many do not migrate.
559
00:31:08.940 --> 00:31:11.250
So if you see them in June, please let us know.
560
00:31:11.250 --> 00:31:13.140
That's part of the Kōlea Count.
561
00:31:13.140 --> 00:31:15.390
This study by the way goes year round.
562
00:31:15.390 --> 00:31:17.703
It's a 12 months year.
563
00:31:18.780 --> 00:31:21.150
Hey Susan, I think we're not seeing your screen.
564
00:31:21.150 --> 00:31:22.803
Do we close out the poll?
565
00:31:25.050 --> 00:31:26.580
Make sure we close out the poll
566
00:31:26.580 --> 00:31:29.250
and so we can see your screen again.
567
00:31:29.250 --> 00:31:31.000
For some reason it stopped sharing.
568
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:37.500
Yeah, the poll is closed out.
569
00:31:37.500 --> 00:31:38.373
There we go.
570
00:31:41.330 --> 00:31:42.360
Is it back?
571
00:31:42.360 --> 00:31:43.660
Yep, you're back.
572
00:31:46.300 --> 00:31:47.133
Here we are.
573
00:31:47.133 --> 00:31:48.090
Okay, we're good.
574
00:31:48.090 --> 00:31:51.390
So that's increasing, decreasing the Kōlea.
575
00:31:51.390 --> 00:31:52.440
How many spent summers?
576
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:54.280
I'll just say this goes year round
577
00:31:55.170 --> 00:31:58.260
and so you think we would know some of these things
578
00:31:58.260 --> 00:32:01.260
but the last statewide count was in 1949,
579
00:32:01.260 --> 00:32:02.247
which doesn't really count.
580
00:32:02.247 --> 00:32:04.710
And the interesting thing is even in 49,
581
00:32:04.710 --> 00:32:08.490
even though the birds were not being hunted legally anymore,
582
00:32:08.490 --> 00:32:09.900
they were still calling them states,
583
00:32:09.900 --> 00:32:11.433
still called them game birds.
584
00:32:13.770 --> 00:32:18.770
Wally counted the golf courses in, let's see, in 1992.
585
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:24.570
But the range was such a wide range for the golf courses
586
00:32:24.570 --> 00:32:26.520
between two birds and 68 birds.
587
00:32:26.520 --> 00:32:29.580
That itʻs really hard to make any averages.
588
00:32:29.580 --> 00:32:31.410
So that's kind of a problem.
589
00:32:31.410 --> 00:32:33.780
We actually have to get out on the golf courses
590
00:32:33.780 --> 00:32:37.800
and today there were 37, today there's 82 golf courses.
591
00:32:37.800 --> 00:32:40.350
So that's quite a bit of counting.
592
00:32:40.350 --> 00:32:43.230
And the golfers have not been really very cooperative
593
00:32:43.230 --> 00:32:45.060
in helping us do this.
594
00:32:45.060 --> 00:32:50.060
In 1968, the state estimated or counted however they did it,
595
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.553
I don't know, nine, 5,000, over 5,000 Kōlea.
596
00:32:54.450 --> 00:32:57.360
But they still call them game birds even in 1968.
597
00:32:57.360 --> 00:33:00.750
So it takes a long time to make a change
598
00:33:00.750 --> 00:33:02.027
in how we think about these birds
599
00:33:02.027 --> 00:33:04.860
'cause they certainly we're not game birds
600
00:33:04.860 --> 00:33:07.713
for over 30, 40 years by then.
601
00:33:09.360 --> 00:33:10.260
People have said to me
602
00:33:10.260 --> 00:33:12.900
why don't you go count them in Alaska?
603
00:33:12.900 --> 00:33:17.460
And Wally has done some tagging studies and the red dots
604
00:33:17.460 --> 00:33:22.460
are where the Hawaiʻi birds nest in the summer.
605
00:33:22.530 --> 00:33:25.620
And the blue ones are where the other Pacific population,
606
00:33:25.620 --> 00:33:27.690
Asia population nest.
607
00:33:27.690 --> 00:33:31.470
And so the problem of counting them in Alaska
608
00:33:31.470 --> 00:33:33.840
is this, what is what it looks like there.
609
00:33:33.840 --> 00:33:37.710
I went there with Wally and it's really enormous,
610
00:33:37.710 --> 00:33:42.710
enormous distances to try to even find one bird.
611
00:33:42.930 --> 00:33:47.930
So it's not really possible to count birds in Alaska,
612
00:33:49.140 --> 00:33:51.600
especially if you're looking for leg bands
613
00:33:51.600 --> 00:33:53.250
or little backpacks.
614
00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:57.960
And so we had eight satellite tags on Tahiti birds
615
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:00.681
and that's why I went with Wally to help them find them.
616
00:34:00.681 --> 00:34:02.820
And so you have to find them with binoculars
617
00:34:02.820 --> 00:34:04.260
then walk through
618
00:34:04.260 --> 00:34:06.480
when you do see one walk through this tundra,
619
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:07.710
which is very difficult.
620
00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:09.063
Can you see the bird there?
621
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:10.863
There it is.
622
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:13.890
So six of us worked for a whole week
623
00:34:13.890 --> 00:34:16.950
and we only recovered four of eight tags
624
00:34:16.950 --> 00:34:18.990
and we even kind of knew where the birds were.
625
00:34:18.990 --> 00:34:21.390
So just say it's very difficult.
626
00:34:21.390 --> 00:34:25.860
It's beautiful but very, very much widespread area
627
00:34:25.860 --> 00:34:26.760
that they nest in.
628
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:30.188
And the great thing is the chicks are,
629
00:34:30.188 --> 00:34:32.490
when you do find a nest,
630
00:34:32.490 --> 00:34:35.400
you have to be really careful not to step on the eggs.
631
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:36.390
You can see on the left
632
00:34:36.390 --> 00:34:39.390
how wonderfully camouflaged they are.
633
00:34:39.390 --> 00:34:42.390
The male builds an nest and female lays the eggs
634
00:34:42.390 --> 00:34:45.660
and they really match the tundra, the four chicks,
635
00:34:45.660 --> 00:34:48.360
it's always four eggs and the four chicks
636
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:50.460
hatch very pretty close together.
637
00:34:50.460 --> 00:34:52.860
Parents keep 'em warm till they're all hatched.
638
00:34:52.860 --> 00:34:57.660
And interestingly the chick's hatched with legs, adult size.
639
00:34:57.660 --> 00:35:01.620
So these are the size of the legs of an adult Kōlea
640
00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:04.440
when it's first hatched.
641
00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:09.440
So that's why Wally can put on the leg bands on a chick.
642
00:35:09.690 --> 00:35:14.690
So they have these really amazingly hilarious huge feet
643
00:35:14.730 --> 00:35:15.563
and legs.
644
00:35:17.430 --> 00:35:20.280
People tell me they've seen chicks in Hawaiʻi
645
00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:25.080
with a Kōlea chicks and it's common and easy mistake.
646
00:35:25.080 --> 00:35:26.790
But these are Ruddy turnstones,
647
00:35:26.790 --> 00:35:30.450
it's a different kind of shorebird and they tend to...
648
00:35:30.450 --> 00:35:32.250
Usually there's one Kōlea
649
00:35:32.250 --> 00:35:34.830
with a little flock of Ruddy turnstones.
650
00:35:34.830 --> 00:35:37.230
And so someone sent me this great picture
651
00:35:37.230 --> 00:35:40.411
of the Kōlea standing with the Ruddy turnstones.
652
00:35:40.411 --> 00:35:42.027
So you'll never see chicks.
653
00:35:42.027 --> 00:35:45.330
You do see young Plovers in Hawaiʻi,
654
00:35:45.330 --> 00:35:48.160
it they are, they'll look like the adults
655
00:35:49.110 --> 00:35:51.240
'cause they've had just had to fly 3000 miles.
656
00:35:51.240 --> 00:35:54.243
So they're adult size with adult feathers.
657
00:35:56.370 --> 00:36:00.330
Good question for me to setting this up with Wally was do
658
00:36:00.330 --> 00:36:04.200
will people help us collect this data
659
00:36:04.200 --> 00:36:06.330
if we start this site?
660
00:36:06.330 --> 00:36:08.670
And the happy answer is yes.
661
00:36:08.670 --> 00:36:10.860
So people were very enthusiastic,
662
00:36:10.860 --> 00:36:15.860
like everyone has a story and charming and warm stories
663
00:36:16.860 --> 00:36:17.750
about their Kōlea.
664
00:36:17.750 --> 00:36:19.920
So we made t-shirts for people
665
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.920
to help us support the count and also we had clickers
666
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:29.040
that we can give you if you wanna count big areas.
667
00:36:29.040 --> 00:36:32.670
And we made launch this website in February, 2020
668
00:36:32.670 --> 00:36:35.160
and we all know what happened in March of 2020.
669
00:36:35.160 --> 00:36:37.200
So we had a little slow start.
670
00:36:37.200 --> 00:36:38.640
I wasn't able to get out
671
00:36:38.640 --> 00:36:42.510
and publicize it as much as I want to, but now I am.
672
00:36:42.510 --> 00:36:44.130
So I get to do it now.
673
00:36:44.130 --> 00:36:46.290
So we started, this is the website.
674
00:36:46.290 --> 00:36:49.020
If you just go to Kōlea Count, this will come up
675
00:36:49.020 --> 00:36:51.420
and there's report tabs, there's guidelines,
676
00:36:51.420 --> 00:36:53.850
there's history, there's the news tab.
677
00:36:53.850 --> 00:36:55.290
Just tell you if you subscribe
678
00:36:55.290 --> 00:36:58.650
you'll just get a notice from the website
679
00:36:58.650 --> 00:37:01.740
that I have posted another story about Kōlea.
680
00:37:01.740 --> 00:37:03.390
So you'll know when there's news,
681
00:37:03.390 --> 00:37:06.183
but you can read up on the old ones they're there too.
682
00:37:07.590 --> 00:37:09.420
We made little counts and big counts.
683
00:37:09.420 --> 00:37:12.450
A little counts are for the one or two birds in your yard
684
00:37:12.450 --> 00:37:14.910
or a bird you see on a street corner
685
00:37:14.910 --> 00:37:17.220
that you just wanna tell us a little about
686
00:37:17.220 --> 00:37:20.340
and record when it arrived and maybe when it left,
687
00:37:20.340 --> 00:37:22.260
which will help us with some data.
688
00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:27.260
And then the big counts are parks, resorts, cemeteries,
689
00:37:29.970 --> 00:37:33.120
the military bases and ranches.
690
00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:36.540
And so people have been sending me pictures of their ranch.
691
00:37:36.540 --> 00:37:40.200
This was from the Big Island right after we started.
692
00:37:40.200 --> 00:37:43.500
So the nice thing is you can do a little count
693
00:37:43.500 --> 00:37:48.500
or a big count and record when you see the guidelines,
694
00:37:49.110 --> 00:37:51.900
you'll see what we want to ask you to do.
695
00:37:51.900 --> 00:37:53.520
It's fairly easy to count.
696
00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:54.960
You aren't really getting,
697
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.290
usually counting two birds the same time
698
00:37:58.290 --> 00:37:59.670
but occasionally you might,
699
00:37:59.670 --> 00:38:01.830
but on the other hand you might be missing some.
700
00:38:01.830 --> 00:38:03.960
So we think kind of evens out.
701
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:07.680
It's not obviously a really precise count.
702
00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:12.680
We only got seven people to count golf courses.
703
00:38:13.380 --> 00:38:15.960
So 73 golf courses when counted
704
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:17.910
to an enormous number of birds.
705
00:38:17.910 --> 00:38:20.070
So that's one of my goals
706
00:38:20.070 --> 00:38:22.620
is to try to get more of the golf courses counted.
707
00:38:22.620 --> 00:38:24.183
They love the golf courses.
708
00:38:25.170 --> 00:38:27.600
And so this is what we do on Christmas each year.
709
00:38:27.600 --> 00:38:30.720
I live near mid Pacific Golf course on O'ahu
710
00:38:30.720 --> 00:38:34.950
and we just go out, my niece and her husband Greg and I
711
00:38:34.950 --> 00:38:36.180
go on Christmas and New Year's
712
00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:38.040
when the golf courses are closed and count.
713
00:38:38.040 --> 00:38:40.800
So that's an idea if you do live near a golf course
714
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.260
and they don't want you walking on it when it's open
715
00:38:43.260 --> 00:38:44.970
you can maybe help us when it's closed.
716
00:38:44.970 --> 00:38:48.660
It's a nice walking and fun to do.
717
00:38:48.660 --> 00:38:53.610
So the first year we got 1500 people reporting birds
718
00:38:53.610 --> 00:38:56.130
and these are the numbers and you can see O'ahu
719
00:38:56.130 --> 00:38:59.580
we had the most, but mostly that's probably because
720
00:38:59.580 --> 00:39:02.820
I was able to get around O'ahu much easier
721
00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:04.590
to tell people what's happening
722
00:39:04.590 --> 00:39:06.890
and now we're spreading the word a little bit.
723
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:11.070
Also spreading the word with children and their parents.
724
00:39:11.070 --> 00:39:13.620
And this little girl was so excited to show me
725
00:39:13.620 --> 00:39:17.523
that she knew what Kōlea was in the "Hawaiʻi Bird Book"
726
00:39:18.420 --> 00:39:22.050
and we're beginning to go to preschools
727
00:39:22.050 --> 00:39:25.050
and the kids are fantastic to teach.
728
00:39:25.050 --> 00:39:26.370
And we have an artist
729
00:39:26.370 --> 00:39:28.860
who is working with Hawaiʻi Audubon Society
730
00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:32.250
who's going to with us to little older students.
731
00:39:32.250 --> 00:39:36.660
These are first graders in Waipahu and she's helping us,
732
00:39:36.660 --> 00:39:39.933
helping the kids and me too learn how to draw birds.
733
00:39:41.220 --> 00:39:43.023
Here's another little quiz.
734
00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:48.540
All right, so here we have our last poll.
735
00:39:48.540 --> 00:39:53.130
So the question is Kōlea are they vegetarians,
736
00:39:53.130 --> 00:39:56.970
eat only worms, raise chickens in Hawaiʻi,
737
00:39:56.970 --> 00:39:59.370
can live to be 20 years old?
738
00:39:59.370 --> 00:40:04.370
So go ahead and vote and I see about 50% of you have voted.
739
00:40:04.380 --> 00:40:06.930
You guys are really quick and on it
740
00:40:06.930 --> 00:40:11.930
and I'm gonna close down the poll in three, two, one
741
00:40:12.810 --> 00:40:15.480
and let's get you those results.
742
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.170
Well Susan, we've got a really Akamai bunch here.
743
00:40:19.170 --> 00:40:24.000
So 97% can live to be 20 years old.
744
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:25.203
How did our audience do?
745
00:40:26.610 --> 00:40:27.780
Great, that's great.
746
00:40:27.780 --> 00:40:29.193
Yeah, they can live at least 20,
747
00:40:29.193 --> 00:40:32.850
well maybe more and they never raise chicks in Hawaiʻi
748
00:40:32.850 --> 00:40:36.720
and they eat anything that crawls and of course worms,
749
00:40:36.720 --> 00:40:40.800
the bugs and worms and things they eat are not vegetables.
750
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:42.120
So they eat animals,
751
00:40:42.120 --> 00:40:45.360
they also eat berries sometimes if they can find them.
752
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:46.620
So thank you.
753
00:40:46.620 --> 00:40:48.573
Okay, ready to go.
754
00:40:50.790 --> 00:40:54.750
So this is just a picture of that one of the students drew,
755
00:40:54.750 --> 00:40:55.890
I thought I'd share it with you
756
00:40:55.890 --> 00:40:58.380
'cause it's particularly cute,
757
00:40:58.380 --> 00:41:01.500
she said the pattern looks like broken hearts,
758
00:41:01.500 --> 00:41:02.820
which is very touching.
759
00:41:02.820 --> 00:41:05.460
They eat crawly things and long legs.
760
00:41:05.460 --> 00:41:07.890
And so one of the points of doing this
761
00:41:07.890 --> 00:41:12.890
is to teach children and the rest of us what to look for
762
00:41:13.080 --> 00:41:14.610
when you're looking at a bird.
763
00:41:14.610 --> 00:41:19.610
So do you want to Just say, I saw a brown bird
764
00:41:22.407 --> 00:41:25.887
or have the kids actually identify the colors
765
00:41:25.887 --> 00:41:26.790
and the patterns.
766
00:41:26.790 --> 00:41:28.590
And that would do the same with fish,
767
00:41:28.590 --> 00:41:29.760
which I've also studied.
768
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:33.180
And someone will say, oh I saw a fish with stripes.
769
00:41:33.180 --> 00:41:34.890
Well that doesn't really do much good
770
00:41:34.890 --> 00:41:36.030
if you wanna identify it.
771
00:41:36.030 --> 00:41:38.910
So that's the point of this thing,
772
00:41:38.910 --> 00:41:41.670
not to see how good an artist the kids are.
773
00:41:41.670 --> 00:41:43.983
And kids really great about telling them that.
774
00:41:46.206 --> 00:41:47.039
We also go to high schools,
775
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.620
which doesn't seem like the kids are paying attention.
776
00:41:49.620 --> 00:41:50.850
You can see here they're reading,
777
00:41:50.850 --> 00:41:52.500
some of 'em are reading their phones.
778
00:41:52.500 --> 00:41:55.020
But we really have some great teachers who are really,
779
00:41:55.020 --> 00:41:56.460
we're really trying to help.
780
00:41:56.460 --> 00:41:58.513
And I do know that the,
781
00:41:58.513 --> 00:42:01.230
a lot of the students really are paying attention.
782
00:42:01.230 --> 00:42:06.150
We take them then outside and look for Kōlea,
783
00:42:06.150 --> 00:42:08.583
which is a fun part of the classes.
784
00:42:09.930 --> 00:42:11.970
We've also gone to senior citizen centers
785
00:42:11.970 --> 00:42:14.940
and had really, really had a good time there.
786
00:42:14.940 --> 00:42:18.480
Most of the seniors in Hawaiʻi know about the Kōlea
787
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:20.490
and when they were living at home
788
00:42:20.490 --> 00:42:22.560
and had yards of their own, they had them there.
789
00:42:22.560 --> 00:42:24.360
And this is in a Hawaiʻi Kai
790
00:42:24.360 --> 00:42:26.260
and we found several outside here too.
791
00:42:28.080 --> 00:42:32.310
So this is the Kōlea Count website, the homepage,
792
00:42:32.310 --> 00:42:34.860
and you can get almost everything you need on the homepage
793
00:42:34.860 --> 00:42:38.670
is scroll down and there'll be the guidelines
794
00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:39.570
and there'll be the link.
795
00:42:39.570 --> 00:42:40.664
There it is.
796
00:42:40.664 --> 00:42:45.000
This is the bitly link that goes to this place.
797
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:46.560
And if you, wherever you live,
798
00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:50.010
if you would like to count at a place,
799
00:42:50.010 --> 00:42:54.240
you press one of the areas and this will come up.
800
00:42:54.240 --> 00:42:56.460
You cannot put the X's on there.
801
00:42:56.460 --> 00:42:59.580
You have to contact me to sign up.
802
00:42:59.580 --> 00:43:03.780
We had in the beginning that you could sign up yourself,
803
00:43:03.780 --> 00:43:05.220
but that didn't work out very well.
804
00:43:05.220 --> 00:43:06.960
There was some hackers
805
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.880
and some other things that were happening.
806
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.920
So just email me.
807
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.610
I will put the X on it's read only
808
00:43:14.610 --> 00:43:17.340
and then I'll sign up your name so I can contact you
809
00:43:17.340 --> 00:43:19.500
if we wanna have a conversation.
810
00:43:19.500 --> 00:43:23.430
And here's the contact page and that goes directly to me
811
00:43:23.430 --> 00:43:25.263
and I will sign you up.
812
00:43:26.790 --> 00:43:28.980
I just wanna say a word about bird rescues.
813
00:43:28.980 --> 00:43:32.610
People call me fairly often about birds with broken legs.
814
00:43:32.610 --> 00:43:37.290
You cannot catch a bird, a Kōlea with two good wings.
815
00:43:37.290 --> 00:43:40.593
So if it's got a broken leg, it may or may not survive,
816
00:43:42.090 --> 00:43:45.450
it might, it can do okay if it can stay away from predators,
817
00:43:45.450 --> 00:43:49.020
but if it's got two good wings, we, you cannot catch it.
818
00:43:49.020 --> 00:43:49.950
We really tried,
819
00:43:49.950 --> 00:43:52.830
we've tried all kinds of ways and they just fly away.
820
00:43:52.830 --> 00:43:56.430
So if it's got a broken leg, we just hope for the best.
821
00:43:56.430 --> 00:44:00.540
And if it has a injured wing, which would this one did,
822
00:44:00.540 --> 00:44:02.640
someone called me and we went and collected it
823
00:44:02.640 --> 00:44:06.030
and took it to the veterinary hospital Feather and Fur
824
00:44:06.030 --> 00:44:07.740
here in Kailua.
825
00:44:07.740 --> 00:44:12.740
And they evaluate it to see if it needs rehabilitation
826
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:17.160
and what its survival chances are
827
00:44:17.160 --> 00:44:19.950
so you can catch it if it's got a broken wing
828
00:44:19.950 --> 00:44:23.250
and as you can see they'll not bite and they do not scratch.
829
00:44:23.250 --> 00:44:26.073
So it's really easy and safe to pick them up.
830
00:44:27.810 --> 00:44:32.520
I just wanna also mention that Blanche our white bird
831
00:44:32.520 --> 00:44:35.910
that we, Kōlea that we saw at he appeared,
832
00:44:35.910 --> 00:44:37.500
got eaten by cats.
833
00:44:37.500 --> 00:44:41.580
So there were 35 cats around my car when I was there.
834
00:44:41.580 --> 00:44:45.150
There's no question that bird got eaten.
835
00:44:45.150 --> 00:44:48.090
And I just wanna say that Hawaiʻi Audubon Society
836
00:44:48.090 --> 00:44:50.640
is asking you, please, please
837
00:44:50.640 --> 00:44:53.550
don't let your pet cat out to roam free.
838
00:44:53.550 --> 00:44:56.310
And if you do wanna take it out, put it on a leash.
839
00:44:56.310 --> 00:44:59.670
Two of my neighbors have leashed cats and they do just fine.
840
00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:03.780
So cats are a big problem for all of our birds,
841
00:45:03.780 --> 00:45:04.880
Native and non-native.
842
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:10.290
So this is our little keep cats safe indoors.
843
00:45:10.290 --> 00:45:12.810
And even if they're neutered,
844
00:45:12.810 --> 00:45:15.033
which these are at Heʻia
845
00:45:15.033 --> 00:45:16.080
'cause their ears are notched,
846
00:45:16.080 --> 00:45:17.190
you can't see that very well.
847
00:45:17.190 --> 00:45:19.650
They are, they still eat birds.
848
00:45:19.650 --> 00:45:21.750
It's their nature, it's what they do.
849
00:45:21.750 --> 00:45:23.070
They're predators
850
00:45:23.070 --> 00:45:26.793
and keep dogs also are thing keep 'em on a leash.
851
00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:32.840
So this is the end of my talk.
852
00:45:33.150 --> 00:45:36.960
Every Kōlea counts, even we don't know,
853
00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.270
this is only our second year of the study.
854
00:45:39.270 --> 00:45:43.590
So even if we get some data,
855
00:45:43.590 --> 00:45:45.780
we're gonna wait until we have years
856
00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:49.320
of some years of data to see if the numbers are increasing
857
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.720
or decreasing in the lot big counts.
858
00:45:51.720 --> 00:45:53.850
So please keep going year after year.
859
00:45:53.850 --> 00:45:58.850
And even if you don't know if you're doing it correctly,
860
00:46:00.270 --> 00:46:02.250
I get people saying, I don't know if I'm doing it right.
861
00:46:02.250 --> 00:46:03.910
I don't know how to do this, I don't know much about birds.
862
00:46:03.910 --> 00:46:07.200
We're still appreciating the birds, we're noticing them,
863
00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:08.790
we're sharing this with other people.
864
00:46:08.790 --> 00:46:13.790
We're getting one of our really adaptable Native birds
865
00:46:14.100 --> 00:46:16.050
some attention that it deserves.
866
00:46:16.050 --> 00:46:21.050
So this is the thing, the count, the big count starter,
867
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.437
little end, big count starts December 1st of March 31st.
868
00:46:24.437 --> 00:46:27.570
That's the wintertime after the chicks are here,
869
00:46:27.570 --> 00:46:30.120
but before they've started flocking together.
870
00:46:30.120 --> 00:46:33.480
So you still have a little time to the end of this month,
871
00:46:33.480 --> 00:46:34.980
but even after that you still,
872
00:46:34.980 --> 00:46:36.630
you can notice it when they leave,
873
00:46:36.630 --> 00:46:37.950
when they're here all summer
874
00:46:37.950 --> 00:46:40.080
and when they come back in August.
875
00:46:40.080 --> 00:46:41.613
So just keeps going.
876
00:46:44.016 --> 00:46:45.990
And that tell you once you start this
877
00:46:45.990 --> 00:46:47.610
and get involved with this,
878
00:46:47.610 --> 00:46:49.170
there's nothing better in the world
879
00:46:49.170 --> 00:46:50.880
than getting up close and personal.
880
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.690
We have a couple places for some volunteers
881
00:46:54.690 --> 00:46:58.290
to help with some work that Wally is doing at Punchbowl.
882
00:46:58.290 --> 00:47:01.860
And really everybody, who ever holds a Kōlea
883
00:47:01.860 --> 00:47:04.020
or watches a Kōlea is smiling.
884
00:47:04.020 --> 00:47:06.273
All these people are smiling.
885
00:47:08.160 --> 00:47:09.930
This is the Hawaiʻi Audubon website
886
00:47:09.930 --> 00:47:12.450
and you can see up under what we do,
887
00:47:12.450 --> 00:47:16.800
you can see all all of the website will come up for there
888
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.440
and see other things that we're doing with tours
889
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.250
and schools and talks.
890
00:47:23.250 --> 00:47:26.580
Just contact us, contact me through Kōlea
891
00:47:26.580 --> 00:47:28.353
or contact us through this website.
892
00:47:29.250 --> 00:47:31.140
Wally and I co-authored a book if you,
893
00:47:31.140 --> 00:47:34.350
this is everything we know about the Kōlea so far
894
00:47:34.350 --> 00:47:37.110
and so if you wanna help support the program,
895
00:47:37.110 --> 00:47:40.170
you can buy this book on the Hawaiʻi Audubon's website
896
00:47:40.170 --> 00:47:42.540
and also "Hawaiiʻs Birds"
897
00:47:42.540 --> 00:47:46.500
which is Hawaiʻi Audubon Society's the only one of 450
898
00:47:46.500 --> 00:47:48.180
Audubon Societies in the country
899
00:47:48.180 --> 00:47:49.830
that has its own bird book.
900
00:47:49.830 --> 00:47:52.920
So this also helps support the Audubon Society
901
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.023
and our citizen science projects.
902
00:47:56.610 --> 00:48:00.360
So that's all I have to share with you.
903
00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:03.390
I have a lot more, but that's all for this time.
904
00:48:03.390 --> 00:48:08.100
And I just wanna say how great this has been for me.
905
00:48:08.100 --> 00:48:11.460
I used to write about marine species
906
00:48:11.460 --> 00:48:15.390
and that included seabirds and also the Kōlea shorebirds
907
00:48:15.390 --> 00:48:18.160
'cause people ask me a lot about 'em and that is me
908
00:48:19.290 --> 00:48:21.030
with the midnight sun in Alaska
909
00:48:21.030 --> 00:48:23.340
behind me in the eye of a Kōlea.
910
00:48:23.340 --> 00:48:26.580
It's one of my favorite all-time pictures.
911
00:48:26.580 --> 00:48:28.350
You have questions please?
912
00:48:28.350 --> 00:48:30.720
That is really cool.
913
00:48:30.720 --> 00:48:33.930
Yeah, wow Susan for awesome talk.
914
00:48:33.930 --> 00:48:37.230
We do have some nice questions for you
915
00:48:37.230 --> 00:48:40.113
and thanks for leaving time for that.
916
00:48:40.980 --> 00:48:42.513
I'll go through a few of them.
917
00:48:43.770 --> 00:48:45.090
One person asked.
918
00:48:45.090 --> 00:48:48.780
Isn't avian malaria a problem in Hawaiʻi?
919
00:48:48.780 --> 00:48:52.290
It seems like making sure there's water and dishes available
920
00:48:52.290 --> 00:48:54.120
for the birds attracts mosquitoes
921
00:48:54.120 --> 00:48:55.743
and exacerbates the problem?
922
00:48:57.630 --> 00:49:02.460
Some birds are resistant to avian malaria and I'm not,
923
00:49:02.460 --> 00:49:03.570
I can't say for sure,
924
00:49:03.570 --> 00:49:08.280
but I don't think that avian malaria affects our Plovers
925
00:49:08.280 --> 00:49:12.240
because they have flown to other parts of the world
926
00:49:12.240 --> 00:49:14.940
where mosquitoes are abundant.
927
00:49:14.940 --> 00:49:18.720
And so I know that the birds on the mainland
928
00:49:18.720 --> 00:49:22.530
and birds that have evolved with mosquitoes
929
00:49:22.530 --> 00:49:24.450
have become resistant to avian malaria.
930
00:49:24.450 --> 00:49:27.750
And one of the reasons Hawaiiʻs birds get avian malaria
931
00:49:27.750 --> 00:49:28.583
and die from it is
932
00:49:28.583 --> 00:49:32.490
'cause they have not been exposed to it in the past
933
00:49:32.490 --> 00:49:33.630
when they evolved.
934
00:49:33.630 --> 00:49:36.300
So I have never heard of any of the Kōlea
935
00:49:36.300 --> 00:49:38.520
getting avian malaria.
936
00:49:38.520 --> 00:49:40.230
They may get the bird flu.
937
00:49:40.230 --> 00:49:41.250
We don't know that yet.
938
00:49:41.250 --> 00:49:42.300
That's another thing.
939
00:49:43.260 --> 00:49:45.030
Yeah, that makes sense.
940
00:49:45.030 --> 00:49:47.400
Yeah, I'll ask Wally when he gets here,
941
00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:50.302
if he's heard of any avian malaria among Kōlea,
942
00:49:50.302 --> 00:49:51.670
but I have not heard of it.
943
00:49:51.670 --> 00:49:54.210
Okay, yeah, he's on the presentation
944
00:49:54.210 --> 00:49:57.720
so if he wants to type anything into the question box.
945
00:49:57.720 --> 00:49:58.553
That's great.
946
00:49:59.580 --> 00:50:00.413
Let's see.
947
00:50:00.413 --> 00:50:04.800
So one person wants to know, is there any,
948
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:06.990
how often there are territorial turnovers
949
00:50:06.990 --> 00:50:10.313
or displacement of a resident by like a new Kōlea
950
00:50:10.313 --> 00:50:12.153
they're so territorial.
951
00:50:13.470 --> 00:50:15.273
Well we don't know that.
952
00:50:16.410 --> 00:50:18.390
I don't think that's known.
953
00:50:18.390 --> 00:50:22.770
If a bird is there all season
954
00:50:22.770 --> 00:50:25.170
and then it disappears in the middle of the season
955
00:50:25.170 --> 00:50:28.980
before migration, it probably died.
956
00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:29.850
And I don't know,
957
00:50:29.850 --> 00:50:33.570
I've had people ask me how do I attract a Kōlea into my yard
958
00:50:33.570 --> 00:50:35.760
'cause I had one and now I don't.
959
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:36.900
But you don't attract them.
960
00:50:36.900 --> 00:50:39.630
They decide it themselves where they wanna go.
961
00:50:39.630 --> 00:50:42.480
They pick, find a place that they can survive
962
00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:46.470
where there's enough food insects and spiders and worms
963
00:50:46.470 --> 00:50:49.860
and cockroaches and if they live through the winter,
964
00:50:49.860 --> 00:50:50.940
that'll be their space.
965
00:50:50.940 --> 00:50:52.920
But if they don't make it,
966
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.230
I have one right now that I've been watching all winter
967
00:50:55.230 --> 00:50:58.500
that has not shown up for the last few weeks.
968
00:50:58.500 --> 00:51:01.950
So I'm thinking it was probably died.
969
00:51:01.950 --> 00:51:04.500
I think the average lifespan, they can live to 20,
970
00:51:04.500 --> 00:51:07.770
but the average lifespans much, much lower.
971
00:51:07.770 --> 00:51:10.233
They live a hard life without migration.
972
00:51:11.370 --> 00:51:13.743
I think the average lifespans six, eight years.
973
00:51:16.170 --> 00:51:19.407
How do they navigate from Hawaiʻi to Alaska
974
00:51:19.407 --> 00:51:22.380
and even Japan for the other population?
975
00:51:22.380 --> 00:51:24.630
Yeah, another great question.
976
00:51:24.630 --> 00:51:25.503
We don't know.
977
00:51:27.180 --> 00:51:31.770
It's unknown how you know how all these shorebirds
978
00:51:31.770 --> 00:51:36.330
are just amazing navigators and long distance flyers
979
00:51:36.330 --> 00:51:41.330
but they, it may be some magnetic component in their heads
980
00:51:41.670 --> 00:51:43.170
that they know which way they're going
981
00:51:43.170 --> 00:51:44.003
or where they're going.
982
00:51:44.003 --> 00:51:46.050
But the amazing thing too,
983
00:51:46.050 --> 00:51:48.420
and we don't know how they manage
984
00:51:48.420 --> 00:51:53.420
is that the chicks that fly that fledge from Alaska,
985
00:51:53.730 --> 00:51:56.910
the parents leave first and leave the chicks alone
986
00:51:56.910 --> 00:51:58.923
to make their own way to Hawaiʻi.
987
00:52:00.106 --> 00:52:00.939
Wow.
988
00:52:00.939 --> 00:52:03.900
So they just have to find Hawaiʻi themselves or not.
989
00:52:03.900 --> 00:52:08.900
And so we don't know how many perish but it's probably a lot
990
00:52:09.990 --> 00:52:12.390
is it 'cause the population in Hawaiʻi
991
00:52:12.390 --> 00:52:14.460
is not rapidly increasing.
992
00:52:14.460 --> 00:52:16.590
So, but that's another thing
993
00:52:16.590 --> 00:52:18.030
that hopefully we'll get some data
994
00:52:18.030 --> 00:52:20.940
and it finds some of these things out.
995
00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:23.280
It must be the smell of laulau
996
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:24.960
wafting in the breeze.
997
00:52:24.960 --> 00:52:27.240
You know, they smell the Hawaiian foods.
998
00:52:27.240 --> 00:52:28.683
Yeah, well you wonder.
999
00:52:30.838 --> 00:52:32.877
Let's see how...
1000
00:52:32.877 --> 00:52:36.060
The question do the birds sometimes stay in Hawaiʻi
1001
00:52:36.060 --> 00:52:37.020
and not migrate?
1002
00:52:37.020 --> 00:52:38.190
I think you covered this a little bit.
1003
00:52:38.190 --> 00:52:39.693
Any other information on that?
1004
00:52:40.770 --> 00:52:44.580
Yeah, some of the birds, when we see birds here in June,
1005
00:52:44.580 --> 00:52:48.000
we figure that pretty much figure they did not leave
1006
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:49.800
because they leave in the end of April
1007
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.410
early May at the latest
1008
00:52:52.410 --> 00:52:54.060
'cause otherwise they won't have time
1009
00:52:54.060 --> 00:52:59.060
through the breeding season to lay eggs and raise chicks.
1010
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:00.720
So they're here in June,
1011
00:53:00.720 --> 00:53:02.910
they're pretty sure they did not leave
1012
00:53:02.910 --> 00:53:05.070
and the first ones from failed nests
1013
00:53:05.070 --> 00:53:08.220
or nests where they either didn't,
1014
00:53:08.220 --> 00:53:11.700
the eggs didn't hatch or predators got the eggs,
1015
00:53:11.700 --> 00:53:13.920
they start coming back in July.
1016
00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.920
So pretty much the ones in June that we see
1017
00:53:16.920 --> 00:53:18.510
are the ones that did not migrate.
1018
00:53:18.510 --> 00:53:20.280
And we'd love you to tell us
1019
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.563
if you see some in June and where they are.
1020
00:53:24.030 --> 00:53:25.980
So we don't know how many.
1021
00:53:25.980 --> 00:53:26.823
Okay.
1022
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.863
How long did the chicks take to get strong enough to fly?
1023
00:53:33.779 --> 00:53:34.770
I think the chicks,
1024
00:53:34.770 --> 00:53:36.900
I believe the chicks is why we wrote a book
1025
00:53:36.900 --> 00:53:38.550
'cause I can't remember all the facts.
1026
00:53:38.550 --> 00:53:40.623
I believe the chicks fly in a month.
1027
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:42.846
Oh, wow.
1028
00:53:42.846 --> 00:53:45.720
From when they hatch for about a month they can fly.
1029
00:53:45.720 --> 00:53:47.700
They stay in Alaska.
1030
00:53:47.700 --> 00:53:52.590
Yeah, they grow fast because it's light out 24 hours a day
1031
00:53:52.590 --> 00:53:54.690
in June when they're growing up
1032
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and the insects are so thick that they,
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and the mosquitoes and other insects
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00:53:59.940 --> 00:54:03.900
that they get up your nose and they're really dense.
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00:54:03.900 --> 00:54:06.090
It's 'cause that's a hatching time also for insects.
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So they eat 24 hours a day,
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00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:11.340
seven days a week and they grow very fast
1038
00:54:11.340 --> 00:54:13.350
but they stay the longest.
1039
00:54:13.350 --> 00:54:17.318
So the parents, the females leave in August 1st,
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00:54:17.318 --> 00:54:18.210
then the males leave,
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00:54:18.210 --> 00:54:20.580
the males sort of babysit for a little while,
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00:54:20.580 --> 00:54:23.610
then the males leave and then the chicks stay as long
1043
00:54:23.610 --> 00:54:27.300
as there's still food before the snow comes.
1044
00:54:27.300 --> 00:54:31.853
And so when the insects are really there,
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00:54:34.170 --> 00:54:35.620
that's when the chicks leave.
1046
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:38.970
Okay, we'll do two more questions
1047
00:54:38.970 --> 00:54:40.980
and then there are other questions,
1048
00:54:40.980 --> 00:54:42.960
but we'll be sending these over to Susan
1049
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:44.820
and then get the responses
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00:54:44.820 --> 00:54:46.890
and send those back out to the whole group.
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00:54:46.890 --> 00:54:49.533
But we'll just, we have time for two more here.
1052
00:54:50.430 --> 00:54:52.290
Well good 'cause I'll share them with Wally
1053
00:54:52.290 --> 00:54:53.737
when he gets here.
1054
00:54:55.140 --> 00:54:57.480
He's on, oh, when he gets to Hawaiʻi?
1055
00:54:57.480 --> 00:54:58.313
Yeah.
1056
00:54:58.313 --> 00:55:00.270
Let's see how high do they fly
1057
00:55:00.270 --> 00:55:03.360
and do they catch the jet stream to Alaska?
1058
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:04.800
Well that's an interesting question
1059
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:09.090
'cause that came up when I was there with you Andy.
1060
00:55:09.090 --> 00:55:14.090
And the highest that they fly is 16,000 feet,
1061
00:55:14.730 --> 00:55:15.780
which is amazing.
1062
00:55:15.780 --> 00:55:18.810
But they're normally don't fly that high.
1063
00:55:18.810 --> 00:55:21.540
I don't remember the average,
1064
00:55:21.540 --> 00:55:23.370
I don't know if we even know an average,
1065
00:55:23.370 --> 00:55:26.040
but they can really fly very high
1066
00:55:26.040 --> 00:55:28.420
and I think if they get favorable winds,
1067
00:55:28.420 --> 00:55:31.800
their average speed is about 40 miles an hour,
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00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:36.570
but they get bursts up to 100 miles an hour
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00:55:36.570 --> 00:55:38.430
and so in bursts.
1070
00:55:38.430 --> 00:55:40.320
But it seems like their little feathers
1071
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:42.993
would just go flying off at 100 miles an hour.
1072
00:55:43.849 --> 00:55:46.290
But if they have very favorable winds,
1073
00:55:46.290 --> 00:55:48.360
they could get going that fast.
1074
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:50.580
But otherwise they average about 40
1075
00:55:50.580 --> 00:55:54.090
and fly lo lower than 60, maybe 13,000 feet.
1076
00:55:54.090 --> 00:55:58.350
But it's amazing if, I have not seen this happen, Wally has,
1077
00:55:58.350 --> 00:56:03.350
but he's told me when you see them leave Hawaiʻi in April,
1078
00:56:03.450 --> 00:56:06.870
the end of April and they just get in a flock.
1079
00:56:06.870 --> 00:56:08.010
They just go higher and higher
1080
00:56:08.010 --> 00:56:10.170
and higher and higher until they disappear.
1081
00:56:10.170 --> 00:56:11.850
So we cannot see them.
1082
00:56:11.850 --> 00:56:16.850
So you can't follow the Kōlea north or south either.
1083
00:56:19.050 --> 00:56:21.210
You can't see them they're too high.
1084
00:56:21.210 --> 00:56:22.043
That's amazing.
1085
00:56:22.043 --> 00:56:24.360
But go ahead, sorry.
1086
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:27.480
Well it's a good reason really that we wrote the book
1087
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:29.640
so we can look up the numbers
1088
00:56:29.640 --> 00:56:32.610
and the things that questions that people have.
1089
00:56:32.610 --> 00:56:36.060
So that really is a good source
1090
00:56:36.060 --> 00:56:38.310
'cause we put all the information
1091
00:56:38.310 --> 00:56:41.100
that Wally has studied all of his life
1092
00:56:41.100 --> 00:56:43.260
is adult life is in there.
1093
00:56:43.260 --> 00:56:45.933
And so that's really a nice reference.
1094
00:56:47.550 --> 00:56:49.410
All right, there's a last question.
1095
00:56:49.410 --> 00:56:52.890
So a lot of people are using apps and things.
1096
00:56:52.890 --> 00:56:56.730
Are there any plan to integrate observations from sources
1097
00:56:56.730 --> 00:57:00.363
such as iNaturalist or eBird into your count?
1098
00:57:01.290 --> 00:57:03.720
Well people do use eBird
1099
00:57:03.720 --> 00:57:06.600
and there's a lot of Kōlea put into eBird
1100
00:57:06.600 --> 00:57:09.900
and iNaturalist, but the big thing for us is
1101
00:57:09.900 --> 00:57:12.810
we are looking at specific times
1102
00:57:12.810 --> 00:57:15.930
and those we can get some data from that,
1103
00:57:15.930 --> 00:57:20.250
but no, the answer is no, we're not coordinating with that.
1104
00:57:20.250 --> 00:57:25.140
So we're doing our own Kōlea count
1105
00:57:25.140 --> 00:57:27.360
because of the specific months.
1106
00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:29.700
So for certain times and certain places,
1107
00:57:29.700 --> 00:57:33.900
we wanna know how many birds are in Kailua Beach Park
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00:57:33.900 --> 00:57:36.210
between December 1st and March 31st
1109
00:57:36.210 --> 00:57:39.327
and that's a little out of the range of what eBird
1110
00:57:39.327 --> 00:57:40.830
and iNaturalist does,
1111
00:57:40.830 --> 00:57:43.350
but it's still eBird and iNaturalist
1112
00:57:43.350 --> 00:57:46.410
are still great resources to bird spotting birds
1113
00:57:46.410 --> 00:57:48.183
but ours is separate from that.
1114
00:57:49.650 --> 00:57:50.580
Yeah, great.
1115
00:57:50.580 --> 00:57:54.000
Well mahalo Susan for your time and for an excellent talk.
1116
00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:55.320
We have a few more questions,
1117
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:57.000
we'll send those back out to you
1118
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.450
and hopefully our audience is inspired
1119
00:58:00.450 --> 00:58:03.150
to go out and count their neighborhood Kōlea
1120
00:58:03.150 --> 00:58:05.250
or get involved in an count project.
1121
00:58:05.250 --> 00:58:07.770
It's really a neat project.
1122
00:58:07.770 --> 00:58:11.850
So again, mahalo for awesome presentation.
1123
00:58:11.850 --> 00:58:12.999
Well thank you,
1124
00:58:12.999 --> 00:58:14.460
thank you for letting me share this too
1125
00:58:14.460 --> 00:58:18.450
with the Hawaiʻi Audubon Society's project.
1126
00:58:18.450 --> 00:58:19.860
So that's a great thing.
1127
00:58:19.860 --> 00:58:22.053
Yeah, exciting, exciting.
1128
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:24.900
So I have a few closing slides here.
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00:58:24.900 --> 00:58:26.640
So this presentation
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as well as all our presentations are archived.
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00:58:31.020 --> 00:58:32.850
We recorded this presentation
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00:58:32.850 --> 00:58:36.480
and we need to caption it first before posting.
1133
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:38.550
So it'll take us a week,
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00:58:38.550 --> 00:58:40.980
maybe two weeks to get that up online.
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00:58:40.980 --> 00:58:44.190
But that's the website where it will be hosted
1136
00:58:44.190 --> 00:58:47.010
and once it's up and if you attended,
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00:58:47.010 --> 00:58:51.120
we will, you know, when that recording is available,
1138
00:58:51.120 --> 00:58:53.370
you will also get a certificate of attendance
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00:58:53.370 --> 00:58:56.040
for the presentation for professional development
1140
00:58:56.040 --> 00:58:58.800
or whatever other purpose you might have for that.
1141
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:02.100
And you'll get that via email in a couple of days.
1142
00:59:02.100 --> 00:59:07.100
And we do have a really cool upcoming webinar in April.
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00:59:07.260 --> 00:59:11.610
It is the, this season for our research partner,
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00:59:11.610 --> 00:59:14.430
Deep Sea Research Partner, Ocean Exploration Trust
1145
00:59:14.430 --> 00:59:16.950
will be conducting expeditions aboard
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00:59:16.950 --> 00:59:20.280
their EV exploration vessel Nautilus
1147
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:24.660
in the Pacific and in Papahānaumokuākea in a few months.
1148
00:59:24.660 --> 00:59:27.450
So you can join that presentation to learn about that,
1149
00:59:27.450 --> 00:59:29.010
the upcoming expeditions,
1150
00:59:29.010 --> 00:59:31.620
what we'll be doing and how you can participate
1151
00:59:31.620 --> 00:59:32.580
and if you're a teacher,
1152
00:59:32.580 --> 00:59:35.700
how you can connect your classroom to the Nautilus
1153
00:59:35.700 --> 00:59:37.740
and talk to us live while they're out there.
1154
00:59:37.740 --> 00:59:41.040
It's really exciting opportunity.
1155
00:59:41.040 --> 00:59:43.800
And also we wanna hear back from you feedback
1156
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:47.970
about this presentation and others you might want to hear.
1157
00:59:47.970 --> 00:59:51.000
So please fill out the survey at the end
1158
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:52.980
and let us know what you'd like to see,
1159
00:59:52.980 --> 00:59:54.000
what we can do better
1160
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:56.280
or comments about what we're doing great.
1161
00:59:56.280 --> 00:59:58.260
So mahalo for joining us
1162
00:59:58.260 --> 01:00:00.810
and coming up on my favorite holiday.
1163
01:00:00.810 --> 01:00:03.240
Happy St. Patrick's Day tomorrow.
1164
01:00:03.240 --> 01:00:06.880
I did one of those genetic tests and I'm like 87% Irish
1165
01:00:07.950 --> 01:00:09.540
obliged to ask.
1166
01:00:09.540 --> 01:00:11.910
But thank you everybody for joining us
1167
01:00:11.910 --> 01:00:15.510
and we look forward to seeing you next month
1168
01:00:15.510 --> 01:00:17.490
on our next webinar.
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01:00:17.490 --> 01:00:18.323
Aloha.