WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:01.713 Well, hi, everyone. 2 00:00:01.713 --> 00:00:03.000 Thanks again for joining us today 3 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:06.030 for our webinar featuring the Art of the USS Monitor. 4 00:00:06.030 --> 00:00:08.130 And we're going to apologize up front, 5 00:00:08.130 --> 00:00:10.950 but Kyra with The Mariners' Museum is having a little bit 6 00:00:10.950 --> 00:00:14.010 of technical difficulty trying to get her webcam to work. 7 00:00:14.010 --> 00:00:16.290 Her presentation is fine. 8 00:00:16.290 --> 00:00:18.540 The museum had an outage about 15 minutes 9 00:00:18.540 --> 00:00:20.340 before this broadcast was supposed to start, 10 00:00:20.340 --> 00:00:22.320 so we're just experiencing a little bit 11 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:23.190 of technical difficulty, 12 00:00:23.190 --> 00:00:24.480 but we do welcome you today 13 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:26.583 and we're so happy that you could join us. 14 00:00:29.340 --> 00:00:30.600 So I'm Shannon Ricles, 15 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:32.100 the Education and Outreach Coordinator 16 00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:34.650 for Monitor and Mallows Bay National Marine Sanctuaries, 17 00:00:34.650 --> 00:00:37.980 and I'm gonna be your host today along with Mark Losavio, 18 00:00:37.980 --> 00:00:41.043 the Media and Outreach Coordinator for Monitor and Mallows. 19 00:00:43.500 --> 00:00:44.880 This webinar is brought to you 20 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:47.500 by NOAA's Monitor National Marine Sanctuary 21 00:00:49.590 --> 00:00:51.870 in collaboration with the North Carolina Office 22 00:00:51.870 --> 00:00:53.283 of State Archeology. 23 00:00:54.900 --> 00:00:56.880 Now, partnering since 1975, 24 00:00:56.880 --> 00:01:00.480 NOAA and the State of North Carolina work to research, 25 00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:02.490 honor and protect the hallmarks 26 00:01:02.490 --> 00:01:05.010 of North Carolina's underwater cultural heritage, 27 00:01:05.010 --> 00:01:06.300 which are shipwrecks. 28 00:01:06.300 --> 00:01:07.710 These shipwrecks hold information 29 00:01:07.710 --> 00:01:09.510 about the ever-changing technologies 30 00:01:09.510 --> 00:01:11.550 and cultural and physical landscapes. 31 00:01:11.550 --> 00:01:14.850 They serve as uniquely accessible underwater museums 32 00:01:14.850 --> 00:01:17.430 as a memorial to generations of mariners who lived, 33 00:01:17.430 --> 00:01:20.250 died, worked, and fought off the shores. 34 00:01:20.250 --> 00:01:22.620 This is one of the many webinars that we will host 35 00:01:22.620 --> 00:01:23.453 in the coming months 36 00:01:23.453 --> 00:01:26.220 for the "Submerged North Carolina Webinar Series" 37 00:01:26.220 --> 00:01:28.200 in collaboration with the North Carolina Office 38 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:29.493 of State Archeology. 39 00:01:31.140 --> 00:01:34.380 Now, Monitor is just one of 15 national marine sanctuaries 40 00:01:34.380 --> 00:01:36.270 and two marine national monuments 41 00:01:36.270 --> 00:01:38.550 in the National Marine Sanctuary System. 42 00:01:38.550 --> 00:01:42.450 Now, this system encompasses more than 620,000 square miles 43 00:01:42.450 --> 00:01:44.310 of Marine and Great Lakes waters 44 00:01:44.310 --> 00:01:46.410 from Washington State to the Florida Keys 45 00:01:46.410 --> 00:01:49.140 and from Lake Huron to American Samoa. 46 00:01:49.140 --> 00:01:50.640 Now, during this presentation, 47 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.550 all attendees will be in listen only mode. 48 00:01:53.550 --> 00:01:55.380 Now, you are welcome to type questions 49 00:01:55.380 --> 00:01:57.660 for the presenter into the question box 50 00:01:57.660 --> 00:01:59.490 at the bottom of the control panel, 51 00:01:59.490 --> 00:02:01.800 which is on the right hand side of your screen. 52 00:02:01.800 --> 00:02:03.930 And this is the same area that you can let us know 53 00:02:03.930 --> 00:02:06.300 about any technical issues you might be having 54 00:02:06.300 --> 00:02:07.770 that we can help you with. 55 00:02:07.770 --> 00:02:10.470 We'll be monitoring incoming questions and technical issues, 56 00:02:10.470 --> 00:02:12.990 and we'll respond to them just as soon as we can. 57 00:02:12.990 --> 00:02:15.300 We are recording this session 58 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:16.800 and we will share the recording 59 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:20.670 with registered participants via the webinar archive page. 60 00:02:20.670 --> 00:02:23.580 A URL for this page will be provided 61 00:02:23.580 --> 00:02:25.353 at the end of the presentation. 62 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:29.940 So without further ado, we want to welcome Kyra Duffley, 63 00:02:29.940 --> 00:02:32.190 a Multimedia Production Specialist 64 00:02:32.190 --> 00:02:35.430 at The Mariners Museum and Park in Newport News, Virginia. 65 00:02:35.430 --> 00:02:37.440 And Kyra, I'm now going turn it over to you. 66 00:02:37.440 --> 00:02:39.180 So I'm going make you presenter. 67 00:02:39.180 --> 00:02:40.458 Wonderful. 68 00:02:40.458 --> 00:02:42.540 [Shannon] And let you go from there. 69 00:02:42.540 --> 00:02:44.160 Thank you so much. 70 00:02:44.160 --> 00:02:45.123 [Shannon} You're welcome. 71 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:47.790 And I want to make sure 72 00:02:47.790 --> 00:02:50.010 that y'all are seeing my screen behind me. 73 00:02:50.010 --> 00:02:53.430 I do apologize for the outage today. 74 00:02:53.430 --> 00:02:55.440 As Shannon said, we are having a little bit 75 00:02:55.440 --> 00:02:58.200 of a technical difficulty over here, 76 00:02:58.200 --> 00:03:00.990 but it actually works out with this being a presentation 77 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:03.750 about art because this is not really about seeing me, 78 00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:06.480 this is about seeing the works in our collection. 79 00:03:06.480 --> 00:03:09.510 So I'm really, really glad to have you guys here with me. 80 00:03:09.510 --> 00:03:12.690 So many of us know the story of the small ship 81 00:03:12.690 --> 00:03:15.240 with a short but mighty life that launched, 82 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.360 and fought, and sank, and was lost and then found, 83 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:22.260 the ship that became immortal, an enigma and an icon. 84 00:03:22.260 --> 00:03:25.050 The technical marvel, the cheese box on a raft, 85 00:03:25.050 --> 00:03:28.623 the little ship that saved the nation, USS Monitor. 86 00:03:32.340 --> 00:03:35.670 But the story of USS Monitor is more than the story 87 00:03:35.670 --> 00:03:40.620 of a ship, or a battle, or a sinking or a shipwreck. 88 00:03:40.620 --> 00:03:43.920 It's more than a story of technology or a turret. 89 00:03:43.920 --> 00:03:46.680 It's a story of looking towards the future, 90 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:48.600 of seeking and searching, 91 00:03:48.600 --> 00:03:51.840 of discovery, of achievement and loss. 92 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:55.620 It's a story of people and inspiration. 93 00:03:55.620 --> 00:03:57.210 So if you've seen the video series 94 00:03:57.210 --> 00:03:58.530 that my team and I produce here 95 00:03:58.530 --> 00:04:01.530 at The Mariners Museum and Park called "Beyond the Frame," 96 00:04:01.530 --> 00:04:02.363 you'll already know 97 00:04:02.363 --> 00:04:05.550 that this is not going to be an art history lecture. 98 00:04:05.550 --> 00:04:07.470 For those of you who have not seen the series, 99 00:04:07.470 --> 00:04:10.533 our goal with "Beyond the Frame" is to make viewing art, 100 00:04:12.015 --> 00:04:13.260 especially maritime art, 101 00:04:13.260 --> 00:04:16.470 accessible, approachable and engaging. 102 00:04:16.470 --> 00:04:19.020 We use little bits of the context surrounding the works 103 00:04:19.020 --> 00:04:20.610 to help illustrate the narrative 104 00:04:20.610 --> 00:04:23.850 that I truly believe anyone can see. 105 00:04:23.850 --> 00:04:25.050 So as I mentioned a moment ago, 106 00:04:25.050 --> 00:04:27.753 this is not going to be an art history lecture. 107 00:04:28.620 --> 00:04:30.330 In our "Beyond the Frame" series, 108 00:04:30.330 --> 00:04:32.730 we believe that you don't have to know all of the facts 109 00:04:32.730 --> 00:04:34.170 surrounding every single piece 110 00:04:34.170 --> 00:04:36.510 to be able to appreciate or understand it. 111 00:04:36.510 --> 00:04:37.620 You just need time, 112 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:40.500 a little bit of curiosity and an open mind, 113 00:04:40.500 --> 00:04:42.870 because when you use those to look at a work of art, 114 00:04:42.870 --> 00:04:47.040 I truly believe that you can uncover a world of connections. 115 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:48.090 So with this in mind, 116 00:04:48.090 --> 00:04:51.300 I invite you to join me in an exploration of that spark 117 00:04:51.300 --> 00:04:55.440 of inspiration that USS Monitor has lit in so many artists 118 00:04:55.440 --> 00:04:56.730 through the ages. 119 00:04:56.730 --> 00:04:58.320 We're gonna look at these works, yes, 120 00:04:58.320 --> 00:05:00.600 with the basic facts and context, 121 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:04.050 but especially from the lens of inspiration. 122 00:05:04.050 --> 00:05:06.780 And in seeking the story that these works can tell, 123 00:05:06.780 --> 00:05:08.670 I hope that you'll be open to forming 124 00:05:08.670 --> 00:05:11.400 and exploring your own connections to the artist 125 00:05:11.400 --> 00:05:15.390 or to the point in Monitor story that these works depict. 126 00:05:15.390 --> 00:05:17.280 I also hope that we can, together, 127 00:05:17.280 --> 00:05:19.740 celebrate the individual flames of inspiration 128 00:05:19.740 --> 00:05:22.440 that show in these works through these artists, 129 00:05:22.440 --> 00:05:24.000 through their artistic treatment 130 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.480 and then their similarities and differences. 131 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:29.460 So today, as you can see on screen, 132 00:05:29.460 --> 00:05:31.680 we're going to look at a selection of four works 133 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:35.580 that depict key points in USS Monitor's story. 134 00:05:35.580 --> 00:05:38.040 First is going to be a work showing the Battle 135 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:39.390 of Hampton Roads. 136 00:05:39.390 --> 00:05:42.630 Next is going to be two paintings of the sinking 137 00:05:42.630 --> 00:05:45.360 and the final is an intimate moment on the sea floor 138 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:47.730 of the Monitor National Marine Sanctuary 139 00:05:47.730 --> 00:05:51.060 during the 2002 turret recovery mission. 140 00:05:51.060 --> 00:05:53.010 So these works are incredible. 141 00:05:53.010 --> 00:05:58.010 They have a span of 1892 to 2013, 142 00:05:58.050 --> 00:06:01.800 and none of these belong solely to any specific art style. 143 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:02.970 They're truly unique, 144 00:06:02.970 --> 00:06:06.570 and inspired and reflect facets of Monitor's story 145 00:06:06.570 --> 00:06:10.110 that so clearly have touched the artists. 146 00:06:10.110 --> 00:06:13.113 So I hope we can enjoy this and get started. 147 00:06:15.540 --> 00:06:18.660 With a crack and a bang, another shot is fired. 148 00:06:18.660 --> 00:06:20.730 It explodes mid-air. 149 00:06:20.730 --> 00:06:22.080 Shrapnel punches down 150 00:06:22.080 --> 00:06:24.930 sending water splashing around the vessels. 151 00:06:24.930 --> 00:06:28.350 They're clouded in a swirl of white and black smoke. 152 00:06:28.350 --> 00:06:31.050 The acrid sting of gun powder fills the air 153 00:06:31.050 --> 00:06:33.990 and shots ring out deafeningly. 154 00:06:33.990 --> 00:06:36.810 In the background ships of sail can be seen, 155 00:06:36.810 --> 00:06:39.210 one battered and sinking. 156 00:06:39.210 --> 00:06:42.210 They watch as the next generation of warships dance 157 00:06:42.210 --> 00:06:43.440 in front of them. 158 00:06:43.440 --> 00:06:45.300 It's an ungraceful and dizzying one, 159 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:47.370 but the encounter is important. 160 00:06:47.370 --> 00:06:49.410 It is a battle for the ages, 161 00:06:49.410 --> 00:06:51.690 the clash of the ironclads. 162 00:06:51.690 --> 00:06:55.860 This is Worden Wood's 1925 watercolor on paper 163 00:06:55.860 --> 00:06:58.350 depicting the "Battle of the Ironclads." 164 00:06:58.350 --> 00:06:59.183 But it's possible 165 00:06:59.183 --> 00:07:01.770 that this story carries an even deeper significance 166 00:07:01.770 --> 00:07:03.090 to the artist. 167 00:07:03.090 --> 00:07:05.260 Worden George Leveret Wood was born 168 00:07:07.458 --> 00:07:10.200 on February 1st, 1876. 169 00:07:10.200 --> 00:07:11.730 He served in the Naval Reserve, 170 00:07:11.730 --> 00:07:14.100 and then was later called up to the US Navy. 171 00:07:14.100 --> 00:07:16.830 And according to his family, as we can see here, 172 00:07:16.830 --> 00:07:19.350 he was a member of Teddy Roosevelt's Rough Riders 173 00:07:19.350 --> 00:07:21.570 during the Spanish-American War. 174 00:07:21.570 --> 00:07:23.310 I do also think that it's worth noting 175 00:07:23.310 --> 00:07:26.490 that Worden Wood is the father of Hunter Alexander Wood, 176 00:07:26.490 --> 00:07:30.160 who also served as a fantastic combat and marine artist 177 00:07:31.230 --> 00:07:33.510 and served in the Coast Guard. 178 00:07:33.510 --> 00:07:35.610 We featured his work in "Beyond the Frame," 179 00:07:35.610 --> 00:07:37.740 episode seven called "The Rescuers." 180 00:07:37.740 --> 00:07:41.100 So if you're interested in learning more about Hunter Wood, 181 00:07:41.100 --> 00:07:43.800 you can feel free to check that out afterwards. 182 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:47.160 But it's the artist's name that might ring a bill 183 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:52.050 for those familiar with USS Monitor's story, Worden. 184 00:07:52.050 --> 00:07:55.200 It echos the memory of the famous Union Naval Rear Admiral, 185 00:07:55.200 --> 00:07:58.380 John Lorimer Worden, who captained USS Monitor 186 00:07:58.380 --> 00:08:00.600 during the Battle of Hampton Roads. 187 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:02.310 And according to family resources 188 00:08:02.310 --> 00:08:04.080 and several outside sources, 189 00:08:04.080 --> 00:08:06.510 Worden Wood is believed to be his grandson. 190 00:08:06.510 --> 00:08:09.660 I do have to add the caveat here that we are still working 191 00:08:09.660 --> 00:08:11.520 to solidify that connection, 192 00:08:11.520 --> 00:08:13.650 but nonetheless it seems likely that 193 00:08:13.650 --> 00:08:16.923 in Wood's naming there was that influence there. 194 00:08:17.820 --> 00:08:20.640 In addition to Wood's military service, 195 00:08:20.640 --> 00:08:22.740 he was a very skilled artist. 196 00:08:22.740 --> 00:08:25.980 His technical abilities in watercolor really shine through 197 00:08:25.980 --> 00:08:28.350 in his treatment of all of his works, 198 00:08:28.350 --> 00:08:32.100 especially his ability to depict action and excitement. 199 00:08:32.100 --> 00:08:34.770 We can see in these two travel ad prints 200 00:08:34.770 --> 00:08:36.840 the glowing excitement that comes 201 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:39.030 from those rosy tinted clouds, 202 00:08:39.030 --> 00:08:43.740 the feathery brushstrokes and the dazzling colorful waves. 203 00:08:43.740 --> 00:08:46.290 And this work is no different. 204 00:08:46.290 --> 00:08:47.610 Of course, as is imaginable, 205 00:08:47.610 --> 00:08:50.340 The Mariners' has many works in all types of media 206 00:08:50.340 --> 00:08:52.110 regarding USS Monitor, 207 00:08:52.110 --> 00:08:55.713 but especially surrounding the Battle of Hampton Roads. 208 00:08:56.820 --> 00:08:58.920 But so many of the works are actually set 209 00:08:58.920 --> 00:09:01.800 from this high angle like we can see 210 00:09:01.800 --> 00:09:03.780 in these two prints on screen. 211 00:09:03.780 --> 00:09:05.550 They look down and show the battle 212 00:09:05.550 --> 00:09:09.180 as if it's seen from a hill on shore or this stylized, 213 00:09:09.180 --> 00:09:11.223 almost bird's eye view perspective. 214 00:09:12.261 --> 00:09:14.280 It's a little hard to connect with a piece, 215 00:09:14.280 --> 00:09:16.770 and it seems unrealistic. 216 00:09:16.770 --> 00:09:20.730 In this work, Worden has actually set us at a low angle 217 00:09:20.730 --> 00:09:23.910 as if we're in a water on a ship just nearby, 218 00:09:23.910 --> 00:09:25.740 watching this firsthand. 219 00:09:25.740 --> 00:09:28.890 We see those plumes of water splashing in the foreground. 220 00:09:28.890 --> 00:09:32.370 And that water, it ripples with the purples and blues. 221 00:09:32.370 --> 00:09:35.760 The peachy tone of the paper in the background contrasts 222 00:09:35.760 --> 00:09:38.730 and simultaneously seems to compliment the blue, 223 00:09:38.730 --> 00:09:42.540 creating the effect of light reflecting on the water. 224 00:09:42.540 --> 00:09:45.330 The billows of smoke drift from a heavy smog 225 00:09:45.330 --> 00:09:46.710 to a light vapor. 226 00:09:46.710 --> 00:09:49.140 Monitor fires a shot at CSS Virginia, 227 00:09:49.140 --> 00:09:51.780 and we see a glint of orange suggesting the action 228 00:09:51.780 --> 00:09:53.460 that we are seeing. 229 00:09:53.460 --> 00:09:57.120 A bomb explodes midair there in the foreground. 230 00:09:57.120 --> 00:09:59.940 And it's in almost a comic like shape, 231 00:09:59.940 --> 00:10:02.490 like something that we would see in a comic book. 232 00:10:02.490 --> 00:10:04.290 And the structure of this explosion 233 00:10:04.290 --> 00:10:06.360 not only shows us the action, 234 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.600 but in an almost onomatopoeic-like way 235 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.030 we can hear it too. 236 00:10:12.030 --> 00:10:13.380 Of the works of the battle, 237 00:10:13.380 --> 00:10:15.420 this one has really stuck out to me. 238 00:10:15.420 --> 00:10:19.140 And I think that it's because of the romanticized action 239 00:10:19.140 --> 00:10:21.990 and the excitement that Wood has brought to it. 240 00:10:21.990 --> 00:10:25.590 We see his skillful composition and artistic choices. 241 00:10:25.590 --> 00:10:29.670 And through those, Wood has transported us into this scene 242 00:10:29.670 --> 00:10:34.080 to be observers, but also to reflect on the significance, 243 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.290 to watch part of this historic battle unfold, 244 00:10:37.290 --> 00:10:41.133 this battle that was possibly part of his own heritage. 245 00:10:47.460 --> 00:10:50.490 So as we move into our next piece, 246 00:10:50.490 --> 00:10:54.330 I do have to say that this work has additional significance 247 00:10:54.330 --> 00:10:56.910 to me because it was the very first "Beyond the Frame" 248 00:10:56.910 --> 00:10:58.020 I ever wrote. 249 00:10:58.020 --> 00:10:59.670 And in fact it was this painting 250 00:10:59.670 --> 00:11:02.310 that I chose to start the whole series. 251 00:11:02.310 --> 00:11:04.410 And I do love opportunities like this 252 00:11:04.410 --> 00:11:08.070 because although we're not able to connect via video, 253 00:11:08.070 --> 00:11:09.240 you can see the screen 254 00:11:09.240 --> 00:11:12.120 and we can sort of pull back the curtain a little bit 255 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:16.170 and share a little bit more than I get the opportunity 256 00:11:16.170 --> 00:11:18.060 to do in the videos. 257 00:11:18.060 --> 00:11:19.740 And if you're familiar with the series 258 00:11:19.740 --> 00:11:22.163 then you might remember this work. 259 00:11:22.163 --> 00:11:23.970 And though it was the first script I wrote, 260 00:11:23.970 --> 00:11:27.510 it actually became the third episode in the series. 261 00:11:27.510 --> 00:11:28.980 The topic of USS Monitor, 262 00:11:28.980 --> 00:11:31.590 yes, is a thematically appropriate starting point 263 00:11:31.590 --> 00:11:34.110 for The Mariners', but we felt that the weight 264 00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:36.660 that this work carries was a bit too heavy 265 00:11:36.660 --> 00:11:38.700 for the opening of a new series. 266 00:11:38.700 --> 00:11:43.020 Its poignance is echoed in all elements of this work. 267 00:11:43.020 --> 00:11:43.950 Kyra? 268 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:45.150 Yes ma'am. 269 00:11:45.150 --> 00:11:46.980 Okay, we were not seeing anything, 270 00:11:46.980 --> 00:11:47.850 just a green screen. 271 00:11:47.850 --> 00:11:48.750 I just wanted to make sure 272 00:11:48.750 --> 00:11:50.490 that's what we were supposed to be seeing. 273 00:11:50.490 --> 00:11:52.950 Oh yes, sorry, I was pausing between the images. 274 00:11:52.950 --> 00:11:54.990 Okay, just wanted to make sure, yep. 275 00:11:54.990 --> 00:11:56.240 I appreciate it. 276 00:11:57.780 --> 00:11:59.760 So as we look at this piece, 277 00:11:59.760 --> 00:12:02.520 the piercing moonlight begins to emanate 278 00:12:02.520 --> 00:12:04.890 from the canvas like a siren song. 279 00:12:04.890 --> 00:12:09.210 It calls us closer, pulling us in as we approach this piece. 280 00:12:09.210 --> 00:12:12.990 The wind whips around us, the clouds envelope us, 281 00:12:12.990 --> 00:12:15.150 the waves engulf us. 282 00:12:15.150 --> 00:12:17.070 There seems to be no escape. 283 00:12:17.070 --> 00:12:18.750 It's too late. 284 00:12:18.750 --> 00:12:21.420 And personally I'm a sucker for chiaroscuro. 285 00:12:21.420 --> 00:12:24.210 It's that intense contrast of darkness and light 286 00:12:24.210 --> 00:12:26.910 that creates drama in the work of art. 287 00:12:26.910 --> 00:12:30.000 We see it here in the waves that are illuminated 288 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:32.640 and the waves that are shrouded in darkness. 289 00:12:32.640 --> 00:12:34.830 It's one of the things that drew me to this piece 290 00:12:34.830 --> 00:12:35.850 in the first place. 291 00:12:35.850 --> 00:12:37.830 And in fact, I really did fall in love 292 00:12:37.830 --> 00:12:40.410 with this piece the moment that I saw it. 293 00:12:40.410 --> 00:12:42.720 And I have to admit that despite its location 294 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:44.310 within our Monitor Center, 295 00:12:44.310 --> 00:12:47.340 I did not really even put two and two together 296 00:12:47.340 --> 00:12:49.953 to realize that this was a Civil War work. 297 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:53.190 In the darkness, the drama, 298 00:12:53.190 --> 00:12:55.830 the haunting blue-green colors of the stormy waves 299 00:12:55.830 --> 00:12:58.080 and the intensely mesmerizing moon, 300 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.760 I was lured in. 301 00:12:59.760 --> 00:13:02.100 And looking at this work, "Rescue of the Crew 302 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:06.990 of USS Monitor by USS Rhode Island, December 31st, 1862" 303 00:13:06.990 --> 00:13:11.100 or alternatively titled "The Sinking of USS Monitor" 304 00:13:11.100 --> 00:13:13.440 by artist William Richardson Tyler, 305 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.500 it's a piece that's best, excuse me, 306 00:13:16.500 --> 00:13:18.300 it's an experience that's best enjoyed 307 00:13:18.300 --> 00:13:20.250 over a few minutes, at least. 308 00:13:20.250 --> 00:13:21.330 With the darkness here, 309 00:13:21.330 --> 00:13:23.670 you need a second to let your eyes adjust 310 00:13:23.670 --> 00:13:26.040 like they do when you flip off the lights. 311 00:13:26.040 --> 00:13:29.133 But once they do, a dramatic scene plays out. 312 00:13:30.180 --> 00:13:32.760 The moonlight illuminates a ship with a red light 313 00:13:32.760 --> 00:13:36.600 on the center right of the canvas, USS Rhode Island. 314 00:13:36.600 --> 00:13:38.160 It rolls to its port side 315 00:13:38.160 --> 00:13:40.770 and the bow is lost in the darkness of the waves. 316 00:13:40.770 --> 00:13:44.220 Its stern and masks are silhouetted against the deep blue 317 00:13:44.220 --> 00:13:46.320 of the dark sky. 318 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.540 We can see that the masks create 319 00:13:48.540 --> 00:13:51.090 these long intense diagonals. 320 00:13:51.090 --> 00:13:53.850 I've shown those here with those arrows. 321 00:13:53.850 --> 00:13:56.820 And then those diagonals are also mirrored in the waves. 322 00:13:56.820 --> 00:13:58.890 They crisscross and intersect. 323 00:13:58.890 --> 00:14:01.560 And that choice to use diagonals 324 00:14:01.560 --> 00:14:03.810 in a composition creates drama, 325 00:14:03.810 --> 00:14:06.540 which is precisely what the artist has done here 326 00:14:06.540 --> 00:14:10.113 through the use of that chiaroscuro and these diagonals. 327 00:14:11.160 --> 00:14:13.260 We can see that the ship is being tossed 328 00:14:13.260 --> 00:14:15.150 by the rough waves of a storm, 329 00:14:15.150 --> 00:14:18.090 but somehow there's a calm, there's a stillness, 330 00:14:18.090 --> 00:14:21.030 like this is a moment frozen in time. 331 00:14:21.030 --> 00:14:24.420 But then we have to pause and ask ourselves, 332 00:14:24.420 --> 00:14:28.110 what moment is artist trying to freeze? 333 00:14:28.110 --> 00:14:31.710 Luckily, with a little bit of context from the catalog entry 334 00:14:31.710 --> 00:14:33.270 and of course the title, 335 00:14:33.270 --> 00:14:35.010 we're given context: 336 00:14:35.010 --> 00:14:36.930 this is a scene of a rescue mission 337 00:14:36.930 --> 00:14:40.410 during the final moments of USS Monitor. 338 00:14:40.410 --> 00:14:42.990 And if we look closely just left of center, 339 00:14:42.990 --> 00:14:45.450 we can see a tiny boat filled with figures. 340 00:14:45.450 --> 00:14:46.530 And let me tell you, 341 00:14:46.530 --> 00:14:49.320 if you come to the galleries and look at this in person, 342 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.780 it's so hard to see the boat 343 00:14:51.780 --> 00:14:54.150 and its passengers are really just a few dabs 344 00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:56.550 of paint consumed by the darkness. 345 00:14:56.550 --> 00:14:59.010 But if you look very, very closely, 346 00:14:59.010 --> 00:15:02.130 you can see the spray crashing around this boat 347 00:15:02.130 --> 00:15:04.470 as it's headed for the Rhode Island. 348 00:15:04.470 --> 00:15:05.910 So then we go back to the title, 349 00:15:05.910 --> 00:15:09.157 okay, "Rescue of the Crew of USS Monitor." 350 00:15:09.157 --> 00:15:12.870 "But where is USS Monitor?" 351 00:15:12.870 --> 00:15:14.670 We'll ask ourselves, 352 00:15:14.670 --> 00:15:17.910 and then we see it ever so slightly there 353 00:15:17.910 --> 00:15:20.340 in the darkness off to the left, 354 00:15:20.340 --> 00:15:23.070 the waves are swallowing it already. 355 00:15:23.070 --> 00:15:25.650 It's lost, and some of the crew are escaping 356 00:15:25.650 --> 00:15:27.600 in that little boat. 357 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:29.490 But the artist has actually done something 358 00:15:29.490 --> 00:15:30.930 really peculiar here. 359 00:15:30.930 --> 00:15:34.710 So typically the use of chiaroscuro highlights the subject 360 00:15:34.710 --> 00:15:37.770 or emphasizes something important in the work of art, 361 00:15:37.770 --> 00:15:40.410 but here the waves are a part that's illuminated. 362 00:15:40.410 --> 00:15:43.410 And when I first started looking at this piece 363 00:15:43.410 --> 00:15:46.200 and working on it, I was just racking my brain 364 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:48.390 thinking what is the artist trying to show? 365 00:15:48.390 --> 00:15:50.730 You know, because this initially seems 366 00:15:50.730 --> 00:15:52.170 really counterintuitive. 367 00:15:52.170 --> 00:15:56.250 Every bit of the subject that he's included 368 00:15:56.250 --> 00:15:58.650 in the title or that we have in the context 369 00:15:58.650 --> 00:16:02.760 of this work seems to point to USS Rhode Island 370 00:16:02.760 --> 00:16:04.770 as being the subject. 371 00:16:04.770 --> 00:16:08.490 But then with that illuminated space 372 00:16:08.490 --> 00:16:11.640 between the small rescue boat and the Rhode Island, 373 00:16:11.640 --> 00:16:16.640 we realize that the subject is instead the act 374 00:16:17.700 --> 00:16:19.920 of escaping to safety. 375 00:16:19.920 --> 00:16:22.110 And through his use of drama, 376 00:16:22.110 --> 00:16:23.580 through his use of chiaroscuro, 377 00:16:23.580 --> 00:16:26.190 Tyler has actually frozen this moment 378 00:16:26.190 --> 00:16:29.190 that makes us ask, "Will they make it? 379 00:16:29.190 --> 00:16:32.130 And then what is going to happen next?" 380 00:16:32.130 --> 00:16:36.960 This drama has created tension like a cliffhanger 381 00:16:36.960 --> 00:16:38.913 at the end of your favorite show. 382 00:16:39.930 --> 00:16:42.120 So of course, as if this painting wasn't eerie enough, 383 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:44.160 we see something strange, 384 00:16:44.160 --> 00:16:48.120 and I would ask for you to look closely at your screens. 385 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:52.980 So ever so slightly just off the back of the Rhode Island, 386 00:16:52.980 --> 00:16:56.250 we can see something strange like a shadow 387 00:16:56.250 --> 00:16:59.430 of the Rhode Island ever so slightly more centered 388 00:16:59.430 --> 00:17:02.850 on the canvas than where the Rhode Island is now. 389 00:17:02.850 --> 00:17:06.480 So it looks like the shape has been changed. 390 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.760 That is called pentimento. 391 00:17:08.760 --> 00:17:12.270 The artist has actually gone in and painted over part 392 00:17:12.270 --> 00:17:14.760 of the image to change the composition 393 00:17:14.760 --> 00:17:17.610 so we can still see sort of the ghostly outline, 394 00:17:17.610 --> 00:17:21.150 the figure of the ship where the original composition was. 395 00:17:21.150 --> 00:17:22.530 And I love this little bit. 396 00:17:22.530 --> 00:17:24.420 This was actually one of my favorite things 397 00:17:24.420 --> 00:17:26.040 when I first saw the pieces. 398 00:17:26.040 --> 00:17:28.530 And I have to thank one of our former conservators 399 00:17:28.530 --> 00:17:30.090 for pointing it out to me 400 00:17:30.090 --> 00:17:32.820 because I would've probably missed it. 401 00:17:32.820 --> 00:17:36.180 And that pentimento actually achieves two things 402 00:17:36.180 --> 00:17:40.170 that help to amplify the drama, even unintentionally. 403 00:17:40.170 --> 00:17:43.803 First, the artist has actually changed the narrative. 404 00:17:44.940 --> 00:17:48.030 He's moved the ship further away from that lifeboat. 405 00:17:48.030 --> 00:17:50.970 He's actually added space in between them, 406 00:17:50.970 --> 00:17:53.970 and he's made that, will they, won't they moment 407 00:17:53.970 --> 00:17:55.590 even more intense 408 00:17:55.590 --> 00:17:58.773 by adding more treacherous water in between. 409 00:17:59.730 --> 00:18:02.790 Secondly, it creates motion in the peace. 410 00:18:02.790 --> 00:18:06.630 In moving that and having this ghostly blur, 411 00:18:06.630 --> 00:18:08.550 it creates motion, 412 00:18:08.550 --> 00:18:11.880 almost like a blurry photo of a moving object. 413 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:14.190 The lifeboat remains frozen in time 414 00:18:14.190 --> 00:18:17.310 while the Rhode Island drifts further and further away 415 00:18:17.310 --> 00:18:19.140 in this storm. 416 00:18:19.140 --> 00:18:20.760 So we ask ourselves, you know, 417 00:18:20.760 --> 00:18:22.380 will they ever make it? 418 00:18:22.380 --> 00:18:23.970 Or will they ever catch it? 419 00:18:23.970 --> 00:18:26.620 Or will it always be just beyond the grasps 420 00:18:27.540 --> 00:18:30.930 of those sailors who are so desperate for safety? 421 00:18:30.930 --> 00:18:34.110 And then ominously, if we look towards the Rhode Island, 422 00:18:34.110 --> 00:18:36.093 we can see that red light. 423 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:39.180 We see the fate of USS Monitor 424 00:18:39.180 --> 00:18:40.920 and part of the crew symbolized 425 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:43.350 by that red light on the Rhode Island. 426 00:18:43.350 --> 00:18:47.850 And that fiery dab of red contrasts against the deep blues 427 00:18:47.850 --> 00:18:49.650 and it glistens in the water, 428 00:18:49.650 --> 00:18:51.300 it pierces through the darkness 429 00:18:51.300 --> 00:18:54.120 and the reflection really seems to sink further 430 00:18:54.120 --> 00:18:55.770 and further into the water 431 00:18:55.770 --> 00:18:58.173 until the light is lost to the sea. 432 00:18:59.370 --> 00:19:02.130 Of course, for those of us who know the story of Monitor, 433 00:19:02.130 --> 00:19:05.400 we know that the eyewitnesses of this fateful night say 434 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:08.400 that the last thing that could be seen of USS Monitor 435 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.160 was its red emergency signal lantern 436 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:13.410 before it too slipped below the waves 437 00:19:13.410 --> 00:19:15.780 to rest on the sea floor. 438 00:19:15.780 --> 00:19:18.600 And this work on its own is stunning and haunting. 439 00:19:18.600 --> 00:19:20.610 But the story of why this work was made 440 00:19:20.610 --> 00:19:24.600 beyond depicting this historic event truly amplifies it. 441 00:19:24.600 --> 00:19:27.000 Our catalog records note that this work was donated 442 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.740 by the Carl Espy family 443 00:19:28.740 --> 00:19:32.790 in memory of Eloise Geer Gardner Espy, 444 00:19:32.790 --> 00:19:35.520 who is the great-granddaughter of George Geer. 445 00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:38.700 It was actually commissioned by Geer before his death, 446 00:19:38.700 --> 00:19:41.280 and is actually noted in his obituary. 447 00:19:41.280 --> 00:19:43.830 So here on screen we can see artist, 448 00:19:43.830 --> 00:19:46.410 William Richardson Tyler, of this city is at work 449 00:19:46.410 --> 00:19:48.630 on an oil painting that will show the rescue 450 00:19:48.630 --> 00:19:50.220 of the crew of the Monitor 451 00:19:50.220 --> 00:19:53.040 by the Steamer Road Island when the Monitor was sinking 452 00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:57.090 in the gale off Cape Hatteras in 1863. 453 00:19:57.090 --> 00:19:59.580 And it says, "The artist received most of his data 454 00:19:59.580 --> 00:20:01.320 for the scene from Mr. Geer. 455 00:20:01.320 --> 00:20:03.570 The remains will be brought to Troy for internment." 456 00:20:03.570 --> 00:20:04.860 Not the remains of the painting, 457 00:20:04.860 --> 00:20:06.813 but the remains of Mr. Geer. 458 00:20:08.730 --> 00:20:11.520 So though it's likely that the artist's composition 459 00:20:11.520 --> 00:20:14.280 was influenced actually from this image, 460 00:20:14.280 --> 00:20:17.550 this print from "Frank Leslie's Illustrated News" 461 00:20:17.550 --> 00:20:20.850 on January 24th, 1863, 462 00:20:20.850 --> 00:20:22.410 as mentioned in the article, 463 00:20:22.410 --> 00:20:24.690 it is said to have been informed directly 464 00:20:24.690 --> 00:20:26.970 by Geer's firsthand account. 465 00:20:26.970 --> 00:20:28.230 And I don't know about you, 466 00:20:28.230 --> 00:20:31.950 but to me that brings so much additional weight 467 00:20:31.950 --> 00:20:33.870 to this painting. 468 00:20:33.870 --> 00:20:36.120 And in this work, the artist has 469 00:20:36.120 --> 00:20:39.540 so successfully narrated Geer's harrowing story 470 00:20:39.540 --> 00:20:41.820 through his techniques, through that chiaroscuro, 471 00:20:41.820 --> 00:20:43.380 through the use of diagonals 472 00:20:43.380 --> 00:20:45.960 and even through changing his composition 473 00:20:45.960 --> 00:20:48.600 that even if we knew nothing about this story 474 00:20:48.600 --> 00:20:51.390 or its tragic ending, we can just be caught. 475 00:20:51.390 --> 00:20:53.370 We're just wrapped up in this piece. 476 00:20:53.370 --> 00:20:55.950 We're sucked in, tossed in those waves 477 00:20:55.950 --> 00:20:57.630 as if we're almost on a third ship 478 00:20:57.630 --> 00:21:00.090 watching this scene play out. 479 00:21:00.090 --> 00:21:02.460 We're set here, helpless spectators, 480 00:21:02.460 --> 00:21:05.010 already mourning the loss of the first ironclad 481 00:21:05.010 --> 00:21:07.650 and the brave men who went down with the ship, 482 00:21:07.650 --> 00:21:09.210 and we are desperately hoping 483 00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:11.460 that these few survivors can make it across 484 00:21:11.460 --> 00:21:14.880 that dangerous moon-lit water to reach safety. 485 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:18.720 And he has just so amplified this 486 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:20.880 that he really just leaves us asking, 487 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.163 will they make it? 488 00:21:24.180 --> 00:21:27.093 So will they, or won't they? 489 00:21:31.830 --> 00:21:34.620 Sorry, I know I'm on a blank slide as we transition here, 490 00:21:34.620 --> 00:21:37.890 but before we move into our next work, 491 00:21:37.890 --> 00:21:40.623 I wanted to note that, you know, 492 00:21:41.635 --> 00:21:44.130 one of the things that I really try to do 493 00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:45.850 with the "Beyond the Frame" series 494 00:21:47.280 --> 00:21:50.460 is break down these preconceived notions 495 00:21:50.460 --> 00:21:52.560 surrounding maritime art. 496 00:21:52.560 --> 00:21:54.840 And one of the things that's really amazed me about working 497 00:21:54.840 --> 00:21:57.150 with the maritime art in our collection here 498 00:21:57.150 --> 00:22:00.180 is that so many people, myself included, 499 00:22:00.180 --> 00:22:04.320 believe that maritime art is realistically painted sure. 500 00:22:04.320 --> 00:22:07.170 It depicts either the broad side of a ship or a battle scene 501 00:22:07.170 --> 00:22:10.350 and they all look the same. 502 00:22:10.350 --> 00:22:11.183 And I get it. 503 00:22:11.183 --> 00:22:14.010 I thought so too before I really started working 504 00:22:14.010 --> 00:22:15.780 with the art in our collection 505 00:22:15.780 --> 00:22:19.350 or before I truly understood what maritime art is 506 00:22:19.350 --> 00:22:21.000 and what it can be. 507 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.600 But one of my goals with the "Beyond the Frame" series 508 00:22:24.600 --> 00:22:27.930 and in having the opportunity to talk about maritime art 509 00:22:27.930 --> 00:22:31.980 is being able to work towards dispelling that notion. 510 00:22:31.980 --> 00:22:34.290 So my response to somebody who would say 511 00:22:34.290 --> 00:22:36.270 that all maritime works look the same 512 00:22:36.270 --> 00:22:38.070 would be to show them the previous work 513 00:22:38.070 --> 00:22:39.870 by William Richardson Tyler 514 00:22:39.870 --> 00:22:42.243 and our next work side by side. 515 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:45.810 A heft of dark blue clouds, 516 00:22:45.810 --> 00:22:48.270 like fingers begin to grip the sky, 517 00:22:48.270 --> 00:22:49.740 engulfing it and threatening 518 00:22:49.740 --> 00:22:51.570 to squash out the last semblance 519 00:22:51.570 --> 00:22:54.240 of the bright orange moon's illumination. 520 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.280 Despite the shrouded light from the background, 521 00:22:56.280 --> 00:22:58.830 this scene is fully illuminated. 522 00:22:58.830 --> 00:23:02.910 Two stylized ships roll in the turning abstract waves. 523 00:23:02.910 --> 00:23:04.740 It's a scene we might recognize, 524 00:23:04.740 --> 00:23:06.570 USS Monitor's famous sinking 525 00:23:06.570 --> 00:23:10.050 on the night of December 31st, 1862. 526 00:23:10.050 --> 00:23:12.480 But it's depicted in a style so unique 527 00:23:12.480 --> 00:23:15.090 that it makes us take a deeper second look 528 00:23:15.090 --> 00:23:16.983 begging us to search further. 529 00:23:17.970 --> 00:23:20.730 So art styles are really funny things. 530 00:23:20.730 --> 00:23:23.850 They're more like Venn diagrams, in my mind, 531 00:23:23.850 --> 00:23:26.190 or kind of like drops of watercolor. 532 00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:29.820 They seep into each other overlapping and mixing, 533 00:23:29.820 --> 00:23:33.630 sometimes forming something entirely new in the process. 534 00:23:33.630 --> 00:23:36.300 They're not always as linear and defined 535 00:23:36.300 --> 00:23:38.370 as textbooks may make them seem. 536 00:23:38.370 --> 00:23:40.680 And of course, yes, some movements paved the way 537 00:23:40.680 --> 00:23:41.520 for the next, 538 00:23:41.520 --> 00:23:44.340 and some artists formed groups that adhered 539 00:23:44.340 --> 00:23:47.190 to a set of artistic standards or principles, 540 00:23:47.190 --> 00:23:50.820 but so many more simply painted what inspired them 541 00:23:50.820 --> 00:23:53.520 and they painted it in whatever way they liked. 542 00:23:53.520 --> 00:23:58.410 And in 1979, Robert Turner Ewell painted this inspired work. 543 00:23:58.410 --> 00:23:59.970 And when first looking at it, 544 00:23:59.970 --> 00:24:01.830 you might have a sense of deja vu, 545 00:24:01.830 --> 00:24:04.140 especially if you're particularly interested in 546 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:07.680 or familiar with the story of USS Monitor. 547 00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.490 If we were to strip away the vivid color and stylization, 548 00:24:11.490 --> 00:24:15.090 we can see that this scene is replicated almost exactly 549 00:24:15.090 --> 00:24:19.470 from the January 24th, 1863 edition of "Harper's Weekly," 550 00:24:19.470 --> 00:24:21.933 depicting the wreck of Ironclad Monitor. 551 00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:25.050 Robert Turner Ewell was born and raised 552 00:24:25.050 --> 00:24:26.340 in Norfolk, Virginia, 553 00:24:26.340 --> 00:24:27.570 served in the Coast Guard 554 00:24:27.570 --> 00:24:29.310 and then later worked for many years 555 00:24:29.310 --> 00:24:32.250 at the Norfolk Naval Shipyard here in Portsmouth. 556 00:24:32.250 --> 00:24:34.650 I had the opportunity to speak with his daughter, Linda, 557 00:24:34.650 --> 00:24:38.130 and she told me of her father's expansive curiosity, 558 00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:40.440 about how he was an avid learner fascinated 559 00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.357 by technology and history. 560 00:24:42.357 --> 00:24:43.680 But most importantly, 561 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.680 and the thing that really always touches me the most 562 00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:50.280 is the joy he found in art and creating things 563 00:24:50.280 --> 00:24:51.573 with his own hands. 564 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:54.510 As she described him, 565 00:24:54.510 --> 00:24:57.300 the unique elements of his work truly began 566 00:24:57.300 --> 00:24:59.670 to fall into place making so much sense, 567 00:24:59.670 --> 00:25:03.210 you know, they reflect these inspirations in Ewell's life: 568 00:25:03.210 --> 00:25:06.420 history, industry and creativity. 569 00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:07.620 So of course as we spoke, 570 00:25:07.620 --> 00:25:10.470 I had to ask the question, "Why Monitor?" 571 00:25:10.470 --> 00:25:12.030 And I mean, that's what we're here for. 572 00:25:12.030 --> 00:25:13.410 Why Monitor? 573 00:25:13.410 --> 00:25:15.960 Linda told me that it was likely her father's connection 574 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:19.320 to his home here in Hampton Roads' local history 575 00:25:19.320 --> 00:25:21.750 and his particular interest in the Civil War 576 00:25:21.750 --> 00:25:24.090 that drew him to the subject matter. 577 00:25:24.090 --> 00:25:26.820 This lifelong study of history is very possibly 578 00:25:26.820 --> 00:25:30.630 what drove him to use the "Harper's Weekly" woodblock print 579 00:25:30.630 --> 00:25:32.340 as his starting place. 580 00:25:32.340 --> 00:25:35.340 But the thing that fascinates me the most about all of this 581 00:25:35.340 --> 00:25:38.250 is the way in which he painted this work. 582 00:25:38.250 --> 00:25:40.710 The style is just so compelling. 583 00:25:40.710 --> 00:25:43.230 And I love this photograph actually from the family. 584 00:25:43.230 --> 00:25:45.510 We can see that all four of the works 585 00:25:45.510 --> 00:25:49.230 that are shown there have this wonderfully unique style. 586 00:25:49.230 --> 00:25:51.220 It's segmented and broken down 587 00:25:52.298 --> 00:25:54.690 and it's totally individual, 588 00:25:54.690 --> 00:25:56.340 but it's one that seems to be drawn 589 00:25:56.340 --> 00:25:58.863 from his interests and life experiences. 590 00:25:59.880 --> 00:26:01.440 Ewell was a burner and a welder 591 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:03.720 at Norfolk Naval Shipyard for many years, 592 00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.920 and he loved reading about industry and innovation. 593 00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:09.690 So it's likely that those influences were a source 594 00:26:09.690 --> 00:26:13.680 of inspiration for the highly mechanized feel of this work. 595 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:17.070 We see a riveted metal depiction of USS Monitor. 596 00:26:17.070 --> 00:26:20.010 Yes, we know now it's artistic liberty, 597 00:26:20.010 --> 00:26:23.220 but it emphasizes the Ironclad name. 598 00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:26.220 We see these heavy puffs of smoke that rise from the ship, 599 00:26:26.220 --> 00:26:29.250 and they appear solid and almost metallic. 600 00:26:29.250 --> 00:26:31.740 I actually really love the smoke 601 00:26:31.740 --> 00:26:33.390 coming out of this smoke stack. 602 00:26:33.390 --> 00:26:37.410 It looks almost like a geode or a rock to me. 603 00:26:37.410 --> 00:26:41.130 So it just really carries that heft and weight. 604 00:26:41.130 --> 00:26:44.460 And then we look back at USS Rhode Island in the background, 605 00:26:44.460 --> 00:26:49.460 and the side wheel on the Rhode Island looks very gear-like 606 00:26:49.530 --> 00:26:50.490 on the gray ship 607 00:26:50.490 --> 00:26:54.360 and especially amongst the rest of the mechanical aspects 608 00:26:54.360 --> 00:26:55.920 of this painting. 609 00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.810 Even the waves too, 610 00:26:57.810 --> 00:26:59.730 that both of these vessels are being tossed 611 00:26:59.730 --> 00:27:02.970 and look like they could be welded or fabricated. 612 00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:06.930 The dark lines between them, they create this weight. 613 00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:09.480 The scene is still and stagnant. 614 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:11.820 Those heavy outlines bring a separation 615 00:27:11.820 --> 00:27:13.020 that makes this work feel 616 00:27:13.020 --> 00:27:16.470 almost more sculptural than painterly. 617 00:27:16.470 --> 00:27:19.350 So then of course being here at a museum, 618 00:27:19.350 --> 00:27:22.380 we have to ask the question, how do we classify this? 619 00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:24.960 You know, we look at the industrialism, 620 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:26.370 the color and abstraction 621 00:27:26.370 --> 00:27:27.720 and we're racked with this question, 622 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.250 what do we call this style? 623 00:27:29.250 --> 00:27:31.590 How do we put this in a box? 624 00:27:31.590 --> 00:27:34.710 And sure, there's a lot of potential options: 625 00:27:34.710 --> 00:27:37.650 pop art, psychedelic, maybe even steampunk. 626 00:27:37.650 --> 00:27:41.520 I know, especially personally this piece reminds me a lot 627 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:46.520 of Peter Max or even the Beatles' "Yellow Submarine" cover, 628 00:27:46.740 --> 00:27:50.670 but none of those fit quite right. 629 00:27:50.670 --> 00:27:52.890 Folk art comes a little bit closer 630 00:27:52.890 --> 00:27:55.890 in that it's this reflection of local culture. 631 00:27:55.890 --> 00:27:59.010 But this work, you know, it's individual, 632 00:27:59.010 --> 00:28:00.300 it's singular and unique 633 00:28:00.300 --> 00:28:03.690 even though it draws from many different influences. 634 00:28:03.690 --> 00:28:05.790 We can see that it's born from this spark 635 00:28:05.790 --> 00:28:08.130 of Ewell's creativity. 636 00:28:08.130 --> 00:28:11.010 So his daughter told me of his artistic passion, 637 00:28:11.010 --> 00:28:13.470 how he loved to make things with his hands. 638 00:28:13.470 --> 00:28:15.990 He was an occasional artist and sold a number of pieces. 639 00:28:15.990 --> 00:28:19.650 And I wanted to go back to this photograph of him here 640 00:28:19.650 --> 00:28:22.170 because he's actually working on selling 641 00:28:22.170 --> 00:28:25.170 some of his pieces at an art show in Murphysboro, 642 00:28:25.170 --> 00:28:27.540 North Carolina in 1980. 643 00:28:27.540 --> 00:28:30.570 And I think it's wonderful to get to see the artist 644 00:28:30.570 --> 00:28:34.320 and this work together here in person. 645 00:28:34.320 --> 00:28:37.410 But she told me that, you know, he never really, 646 00:28:37.410 --> 00:28:39.660 truly thought much of his work, 647 00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:41.430 and that's I think such a shame 648 00:28:41.430 --> 00:28:44.580 because she told me that he would just light up 649 00:28:44.580 --> 00:28:46.410 when someone liked one of his pieces. 650 00:28:46.410 --> 00:28:48.510 And then when inspiration struck, 651 00:28:48.510 --> 00:28:51.030 he created using a wide range of media 652 00:28:51.030 --> 00:28:53.703 from drawing and painting to woodcarving. 653 00:28:54.870 --> 00:28:56.250 So in the case of this work, 654 00:28:56.250 --> 00:29:00.450 it was Monitor's story that sparked Ewell's creative flame. 655 00:29:00.450 --> 00:29:03.120 By 1979 when Ewell painted this work, 656 00:29:03.120 --> 00:29:05.730 the wreck of USS Monitor had been discovered, 657 00:29:05.730 --> 00:29:07.350 its resting place designated 658 00:29:07.350 --> 00:29:10.170 as the very first National Marine Sanctuary, 659 00:29:10.170 --> 00:29:12.810 and its famous Red Lantern had been recovered 660 00:29:12.810 --> 00:29:15.510 with a second expedition underway. 661 00:29:15.510 --> 00:29:18.180 And it seems that the excitement surrounding Monitor story 662 00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:20.580 had been rediscovered as well. 663 00:29:20.580 --> 00:29:23.250 And that's an amazing aspect of this story. 664 00:29:23.250 --> 00:29:26.400 But, you know, with Ewell being a local artist, 665 00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:28.110 I think there's something more 666 00:29:28.110 --> 00:29:30.900 that brings an amazing personal touch to this. 667 00:29:30.900 --> 00:29:35.280 And that's because before there was a USS Monitor Center, 668 00:29:35.280 --> 00:29:37.800 before the turret and other artifacts were raised 669 00:29:37.800 --> 00:29:40.140 and brought here, Ewell walked the galleries 670 00:29:40.140 --> 00:29:41.760 of The Mariners' Museum. 671 00:29:41.760 --> 00:29:43.530 He actually brought his family here. 672 00:29:43.530 --> 00:29:47.670 Linda told me about how he brought them here time 673 00:29:47.670 --> 00:29:49.230 and time again. 674 00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:50.640 She said he loved it here. 675 00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.850 And I think perhaps he wanted his children to experience 676 00:29:53.850 --> 00:29:56.160 that same spark of curiosity 677 00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.730 that drove him to seek further and to create. 678 00:29:59.730 --> 00:30:02.160 And the thing about Monitor's story is that there are 679 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:05.040 so many faces and facets of its life. 680 00:30:05.040 --> 00:30:06.120 Like I said at the beginning, 681 00:30:06.120 --> 00:30:09.630 it's not only the story of a ship, or a battle or a sinking, 682 00:30:09.630 --> 00:30:11.700 it's so many stories in one, 683 00:30:11.700 --> 00:30:13.410 it's multifaceted life, 684 00:30:13.410 --> 00:30:15.600 whether in its inception and duty, 685 00:30:15.600 --> 00:30:17.160 in it's sinking and mystery 686 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:19.200 or in its discovery and recovery 687 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:22.050 has the ability to inspire connection. 688 00:30:22.050 --> 00:30:23.850 And that's what I think Ewell has showed us 689 00:30:23.850 --> 00:30:25.560 in this painting. 690 00:30:25.560 --> 00:30:29.880 He's really captured the thrill he finds in innovation, 691 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.010 mirrored in Monitor's story. 692 00:30:32.010 --> 00:30:34.650 We see a tale of humanity possibly reflected 693 00:30:34.650 --> 00:30:38.610 from his own service and a piece of his own local history 694 00:30:38.610 --> 00:30:40.890 that he's studied so avidly. 695 00:30:40.890 --> 00:30:42.480 And in the boldness of this work, 696 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:46.860 Ewell's many connections to USS Monitor and its story shine. 697 00:30:46.860 --> 00:30:51.510 But in it too, he shared his inspirations and his story 698 00:30:51.510 --> 00:30:54.060 and he's wrapped it all together in a way 699 00:30:54.060 --> 00:30:56.673 that is purely his own to share with us. 700 00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:01.680 These past two works were created 87 years apart 701 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:03.810 by artists of entirely separate backgrounds 702 00:31:03.810 --> 00:31:05.340 and life experiences. 703 00:31:05.340 --> 00:31:07.320 And yes, they painted the exact same night, 704 00:31:07.320 --> 00:31:09.120 the exact same subject, 705 00:31:09.120 --> 00:31:13.800 and both of them are based on news accounts, 706 00:31:13.800 --> 00:31:16.410 but they turned out worlds differently. 707 00:31:16.410 --> 00:31:18.240 And they are beautiful and unique 708 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.550 in their similarities and differences. 709 00:31:20.550 --> 00:31:22.110 So the next time somebody tells you 710 00:31:22.110 --> 00:31:24.630 that Maritime artworks all look the same, 711 00:31:24.630 --> 00:31:28.143 I encourage you to remind them of these two pieces. 712 00:31:29.700 --> 00:31:33.510 So as we're going to transition into our last piece, 713 00:31:33.510 --> 00:31:37.290 I want to talk about individual experiences and inspirations 714 00:31:37.290 --> 00:31:42.240 because so often it's these experiences like Ewell's 715 00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.000 that lead artists to create. 716 00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:47.820 And painting one's life or culture dates back millennia. 717 00:31:47.820 --> 00:31:49.980 It's one of the most human instincts there is, 718 00:31:49.980 --> 00:31:52.080 just like we like to capture important moments 719 00:31:52.080 --> 00:31:53.820 on camera or video. 720 00:31:53.820 --> 00:31:56.040 And for artists, it can be these big moments 721 00:31:56.040 --> 00:31:58.440 that influence their works the most. 722 00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:00.030 So for our next artist, 723 00:32:00.030 --> 00:32:02.190 it was an experience with USS Monitor 724 00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:04.980 that few in this world can say that they have 725 00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:08.193 that drove his desire to create, to remember. 726 00:32:11.250 --> 00:32:14.100 He sinks down deeper and deeper 727 00:32:14.100 --> 00:32:18.960 all around him it's blue, blue, blue, blue. 728 00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.340 At this depth all red, 729 00:32:20.340 --> 00:32:23.100 yellow and orange light is filtered out. 730 00:32:23.100 --> 00:32:24.870 It's dark like you're in a gray room 731 00:32:24.870 --> 00:32:26.580 with only two small windows. 732 00:32:26.580 --> 00:32:30.600 And then there it is, it begins to come into view. 733 00:32:30.600 --> 00:32:32.730 It's hulking and cave-like, 734 00:32:32.730 --> 00:32:35.550 upside down and covered in marine growth. 735 00:32:35.550 --> 00:32:37.050 It could almost look natural 736 00:32:37.050 --> 00:32:39.540 if you didn't know what this was. 737 00:32:39.540 --> 00:32:41.490 He steps along the sea floor, 738 00:32:41.490 --> 00:32:44.100 it's solid, but the sediment still billows slightly 739 00:32:44.100 --> 00:32:45.600 with each step. 740 00:32:45.600 --> 00:32:47.130 Then he moves forward, 741 00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:50.820 slowly, gently, hand outstretched. 742 00:32:50.820 --> 00:32:53.250 Hand meets iron. 743 00:32:53.250 --> 00:32:55.140 In this fleeting moment of connection, 744 00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:57.600 he imagines the history, 745 00:32:57.600 --> 00:32:59.760 the sailors who had preceded him in service 746 00:32:59.760 --> 00:33:02.910 to their country 140 years before, 747 00:33:02.910 --> 00:33:06.420 some whose remains lay resting here at this sanctuary. 748 00:33:06.420 --> 00:33:08.760 He snaps back to the present. 749 00:33:08.760 --> 00:33:10.500 He has work to do. 750 00:33:10.500 --> 00:33:12.480 He is Boatswain's mate first class, 751 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.900 diver first class, Michael Simo Simonetti, 752 00:33:15.900 --> 00:33:18.770 and he is working to help raise USS Monitors turret 753 00:33:18.770 --> 00:33:21.240 in the summer of 2002. 754 00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.100 But before he gets back to his work, 755 00:33:23.100 --> 00:33:27.870 he thinks, "This is a moment I'll never forget." 756 00:33:27.870 --> 00:33:30.090 Art is fascinating in the way that it allows us 757 00:33:30.090 --> 00:33:32.490 to peer into the mind of an artist, 758 00:33:32.490 --> 00:33:34.470 see the world through their eyes, 759 00:33:34.470 --> 00:33:36.990 through the lens of their creativity. 760 00:33:36.990 --> 00:33:38.550 But there's something very special 761 00:33:38.550 --> 00:33:41.730 about an artist allowing us to peek into their memory, 762 00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:44.580 especially a life changing one like this, 763 00:33:44.580 --> 00:33:47.613 one that we have never had the opportunity to see. 764 00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:50.850 These works can have a different feeling to them. 765 00:33:50.850 --> 00:33:52.800 The artist paints them with the emotions 766 00:33:52.800 --> 00:33:54.360 that they felt at the time: 767 00:33:54.360 --> 00:33:58.020 excitement, anticipation, poignance. 768 00:33:58.020 --> 00:34:00.330 And yeah, sometimes these works are slightly different 769 00:34:00.330 --> 00:34:03.900 from the exact memory depicting not just how something was, 770 00:34:03.900 --> 00:34:07.290 but instead how it felt in that moment. 771 00:34:07.290 --> 00:34:08.123 In this work, 772 00:34:08.123 --> 00:34:11.820 "USS Monitor Wreck, 2002, Graveyard of the Atlantic" 773 00:34:11.820 --> 00:34:16.170 by Michael Simon Simonetti, we see a scene, a memory, 774 00:34:16.170 --> 00:34:18.990 but from a sort of out of body experience. 775 00:34:18.990 --> 00:34:21.810 The artist and the viewer watch actually from a distance 776 00:34:21.810 --> 00:34:24.510 as the artist's past self experiences, 777 00:34:24.510 --> 00:34:29.160 this defining moment touching USS Monitor's iconic turret 778 00:34:29.160 --> 00:34:32.250 before it was raised from its resting place 20 years ago 779 00:34:32.250 --> 00:34:35.280 on August 5th, 2002. 780 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:36.960 On this day during this mission, 781 00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:40.308 Simonetti was on a mixed gas heliox dive 782 00:34:40.308 --> 00:34:42.720 235 feet to the sea floor 783 00:34:42.720 --> 00:34:45.423 of the Monitor National Marine Sanctuary. 784 00:34:46.470 --> 00:34:48.840 There in the Sanctuary with him was a master diver 785 00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:51.420 and two other saturation divers. 786 00:34:51.420 --> 00:34:53.310 He had two important jobs: 787 00:34:53.310 --> 00:34:56.130 to run a cable around the hull so it could later be cut away 788 00:34:56.130 --> 00:34:58.620 and allow the turret to be raised to the surface, 789 00:34:58.620 --> 00:35:01.083 and then secondly, to look for artifacts. 790 00:35:02.047 --> 00:35:02.880 in this painting, though, 791 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:04.650 despite the reality of the situation, 792 00:35:04.650 --> 00:35:08.340 Simonetti has presented himself alone. 793 00:35:08.340 --> 00:35:10.470 One of my favorite things about getting to work with the art 794 00:35:10.470 --> 00:35:12.690 and the collection in this way is not just connecting 795 00:35:12.690 --> 00:35:15.000 with the works, but also like in the last piece, 796 00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:16.440 the Ewell's piece, 797 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.150 sometimes I have the opportunity 798 00:35:18.150 --> 00:35:21.210 to connect with the artists' families 799 00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:23.040 or the artists themselves. 800 00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:27.150 And this work was especially special in my research 801 00:35:27.150 --> 00:35:28.740 because I had the opportunity 802 00:35:28.740 --> 00:35:30.480 to speak with Mr. Simonetti. 803 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:31.980 And I do have to mention 804 00:35:31.980 --> 00:35:34.690 because it is absolutely worth noting 805 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:38.280 that this was the very first living artist 806 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.860 that has been featured in "Beyond the Frame." 807 00:35:40.860 --> 00:35:42.540 So it was really incredible 808 00:35:42.540 --> 00:35:46.290 getting to hear Mr. Simonetti's story firsthand 809 00:35:46.290 --> 00:35:51.290 told by, you know, in the way that only he can tell it. 810 00:35:51.570 --> 00:35:55.320 And so when I asked him why he chose to paint this work 811 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.720 and this way, he described to me the feeling 812 00:35:57.720 --> 00:36:00.030 of privacy he had. 813 00:36:00.030 --> 00:36:02.860 He told me about how the hard dive helmet he wore 814 00:36:04.672 --> 00:36:05.700 limited his field of vision, 815 00:36:05.700 --> 00:36:08.010 which was already obscured by the water. 816 00:36:08.010 --> 00:36:11.883 He said it was dark and murky, almost like a cloudy day. 817 00:36:12.750 --> 00:36:16.080 So in this work, he set the scene as he felt in that moment, 818 00:36:16.080 --> 00:36:19.230 like there was nothing but him and this piece of history. 819 00:36:19.230 --> 00:36:21.630 And he told me too, that as a sailor himself, 820 00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:23.220 he felt a connection. 821 00:36:23.220 --> 00:36:24.060 This ship, you know, 822 00:36:24.060 --> 00:36:26.670 it was part of his heritage as a sailor. 823 00:36:26.670 --> 00:36:29.640 But also in this moment he was thinking, 824 00:36:29.640 --> 00:36:32.340 this is every little kid's dream, 825 00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:34.920 diving on a sunken shipwreck. 826 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:37.257 And that's what we feel in this work. 827 00:36:37.257 --> 00:36:39.420 And the contrast of the shadowy hull 828 00:36:39.420 --> 00:36:41.760 against the intense blue with the light 829 00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.010 from the surface trickling down on this wreck, 830 00:36:44.010 --> 00:36:48.420 we feel the significance, the excitement and the adventure. 831 00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:50.700 This is like something out of a storybook, 832 00:36:50.700 --> 00:36:54.570 a tale to pass on, something to remember. 833 00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:56.190 And one of the things that I loved most 834 00:36:56.190 --> 00:36:57.990 about getting to talk to Mr. Simonetti 835 00:36:57.990 --> 00:37:01.050 about this work was just his sheer excitement 836 00:37:01.050 --> 00:37:02.610 in talking about this. 837 00:37:02.610 --> 00:37:04.020 It really came through 838 00:37:04.020 --> 00:37:04.950 even on the phone 839 00:37:04.950 --> 00:37:07.893 and I think it comes through in this piece as well. 840 00:37:09.060 --> 00:37:11.820 Mr. Simonetti began his naval career 841 00:37:11.820 --> 00:37:13.590 in helicopter search and rescue. 842 00:37:13.590 --> 00:37:17.340 But he told me how he applied to dive school three times 843 00:37:17.340 --> 00:37:19.590 to get out of this field. 844 00:37:19.590 --> 00:37:20.580 He poignantly told me 845 00:37:20.580 --> 00:37:21.990 about how this decision came 846 00:37:21.990 --> 00:37:23.970 after losing far too many friends 847 00:37:23.970 --> 00:37:26.640 and attending far too many funerals. 848 00:37:26.640 --> 00:37:28.950 But he said that in dive school, 849 00:37:28.950 --> 00:37:31.500 and as his diving career began, 850 00:37:31.500 --> 00:37:33.727 he told me about how much fun he had. 851 00:37:33.727 --> 00:37:36.390 "High adventure," he told me laughing. 852 00:37:36.390 --> 00:37:38.040 He thought back to when he was a little kid 853 00:37:38.040 --> 00:37:39.750 and he would watch Jacques Cousteau 854 00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:42.270 and dream of being an oceanographer. 855 00:37:42.270 --> 00:37:45.900 And of course as for art that started in childhood too. 856 00:37:45.900 --> 00:37:47.640 He told me he always loved drawing 857 00:37:47.640 --> 00:37:50.190 and later would do commissions for friends. 858 00:37:50.190 --> 00:37:52.080 Once his time in the Navy was done, 859 00:37:52.080 --> 00:37:53.820 Simonetti dove fully into art, 860 00:37:53.820 --> 00:37:56.640 actually pursuing a degree in painting and printmaking 861 00:37:56.640 --> 00:37:58.860 at San Diego State University. 862 00:37:58.860 --> 00:38:01.717 And this work came from his school portfolio. 863 00:38:01.717 --> 00:38:03.937 "The prompt," he told me was, 864 00:38:03.937 --> 00:38:06.897 "paint a memory that will always be with you." 865 00:38:08.316 --> 00:38:10.050 In this work, Simonetti reflects on the moment 866 00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:12.690 when he stretched out his black glove hand 867 00:38:12.690 --> 00:38:15.180 touching the algae covered chocolatey brown 868 00:38:15.180 --> 00:38:18.630 and rust-colored hull of USS Monitor. 869 00:38:18.630 --> 00:38:21.420 It was this moment that he saw the indentations 870 00:38:21.420 --> 00:38:23.160 on the turret made by cannonballs 871 00:38:23.160 --> 00:38:26.820 during battle 140 years earlier. 872 00:38:26.820 --> 00:38:29.280 It was the moment that he connected with the crew 873 00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.350 and with the legacy of those who had served 874 00:38:31.350 --> 00:38:32.970 and gone before him. 875 00:38:32.970 --> 00:38:35.550 He painted this work to commemorate the history 876 00:38:35.550 --> 00:38:39.180 that he touched, that he was helping to save. 877 00:38:39.180 --> 00:38:42.690 And not only that, but also to celebrate this memory, 878 00:38:42.690 --> 00:38:45.330 a story that he told me he would be proud to share 879 00:38:45.330 --> 00:38:47.100 with his little granddaughter. 880 00:38:47.100 --> 00:38:49.200 She was two at the time that we spoke. 881 00:38:49.200 --> 00:38:51.720 And I just love the thinking about 882 00:38:51.720 --> 00:38:53.313 that precious interaction. 883 00:38:54.690 --> 00:38:56.370 Simonetti's service in the Navy, 884 00:38:56.370 --> 00:38:58.950 both before in Helicopter Search and Rescue 885 00:38:58.950 --> 00:39:02.400 and later as a part of the USS Monitor recovery team 886 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:07.020 of divers is a part of his story, his legacy, 887 00:39:07.020 --> 00:39:08.880 but it's also so much bigger than that, 888 00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:12.210 because he and the role that he played in his two weeks 889 00:39:12.210 --> 00:39:15.900 on this mission affected not just his own personal history, 890 00:39:15.900 --> 00:39:17.400 but also became entwined 891 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.960 with USS Monitor's 160-year history. 892 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:24.840 On this mission too, he told me about "The conga line 893 00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.230 of divers from all over the world," as he described them, 894 00:39:28.230 --> 00:39:30.210 and how they became close. 895 00:39:30.210 --> 00:39:33.090 They became joined together through their shared dedication 896 00:39:33.090 --> 00:39:35.970 and commitment to this incredible feat. 897 00:39:35.970 --> 00:39:38.250 The service of all of the expedition participants 898 00:39:38.250 --> 00:39:40.830 over the years, NOAA, the US Navy, 899 00:39:40.830 --> 00:39:43.080 the archeologists, engineers, the divers, 900 00:39:43.080 --> 00:39:45.270 our own museum team and so many more 901 00:39:45.270 --> 00:39:47.850 made this incredible mission possible. 902 00:39:47.850 --> 00:39:50.070 Together, they realized the amazing feat 903 00:39:50.070 --> 00:39:53.190 of finding USS Monitor and recovering its turret 904 00:39:53.190 --> 00:39:55.920 as well as countless other artifacts. 905 00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:58.800 And they laid the foundation for the preservation, 906 00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:01.890 conservation and stewardship of these objects 907 00:40:01.890 --> 00:40:03.780 so that we can better understand them 908 00:40:03.780 --> 00:40:06.600 and share their story with the world. 909 00:40:06.600 --> 00:40:09.210 And that, for Simo and so many others, 910 00:40:09.210 --> 00:40:11.310 is something to be proud of. 911 00:40:11.310 --> 00:40:13.860 That is a story to pass on. 912 00:40:13.860 --> 00:40:16.110 That is something to remember. 913 00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:20.100 And the story of USS Monitor is something to pass on, 914 00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:21.390 something to remember, 915 00:40:21.390 --> 00:40:24.180 something that has influenced for so many years 916 00:40:24.180 --> 00:40:26.610 and will continue to influence further. 917 00:40:26.610 --> 00:40:29.430 And I look forward to seeing the works that come from that. 918 00:40:29.430 --> 00:40:31.200 So thank you all so much for your time. 919 00:40:31.200 --> 00:40:34.890 I do hope you enjoyed our journey together today, 920 00:40:34.890 --> 00:40:36.660 despite our technical difficulties. 921 00:40:36.660 --> 00:40:37.890 I do apologize again, 922 00:40:37.890 --> 00:40:40.023 but like I said, it was about the art. 923 00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:46.260 And I do hope that through experiencing works like this, 924 00:40:46.260 --> 00:40:50.100 you've maybe found or deepened connections to USS Monitor 925 00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:51.690 that may have existed 926 00:40:51.690 --> 00:40:56.690 or maybe even you became connected to today. 927 00:40:59.370 --> 00:41:01.410 [Shannon] All right, thank you, Kyra. 928 00:41:01.410 --> 00:41:03.210 That's awesome. 929 00:41:03.210 --> 00:41:06.363 I am going to take my screen back. 930 00:41:08.130 --> 00:41:11.700 And Mark, if you wanna go ahead and turn on, 931 00:41:11.700 --> 00:41:13.200 since Kyra's not gonna be on screen, 932 00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:15.180 if you wanna turn on your webcam as well. 933 00:41:15.180 --> 00:41:16.353 I'll turn on mine. 934 00:41:17.970 --> 00:41:20.340 All right, this is the time that we have 935 00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:21.960 for the questions and answers. 936 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.820 So if you've not put your question 937 00:41:23.820 --> 00:41:25.740 into the question box yet, 938 00:41:25.740 --> 00:41:27.990 we definitely encourage you to do so 939 00:41:27.990 --> 00:41:30.420 so Kyra can answer your questions. 940 00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:32.580 I do have one question for you, Kyra, 941 00:41:32.580 --> 00:41:34.380 to start out with. Yes. 942 00:41:34.380 --> 00:41:36.870 How many paintings does the museum have 943 00:41:36.870 --> 00:41:38.640 that actually relate to the Monitor? 944 00:41:38.640 --> 00:41:41.070 Do you have a a number? 945 00:41:41.070 --> 00:41:43.623 [Kyra] I would have to check on that, because, 946 00:41:44.550 --> 00:41:49.050 so our painting collection alone is over 1200 works of art. 947 00:41:49.050 --> 00:41:53.040 I know that we do have quite a number of paintings 948 00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:54.180 in our painting storage, 949 00:41:54.180 --> 00:41:58.170 but if we were to actually count all of the watercolors, 950 00:41:58.170 --> 00:42:00.270 the lithographs, the prints 951 00:42:00.270 --> 00:42:01.920 that we do have in the collection, 952 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:04.950 I'm sure it adds up quite a bit. 953 00:42:04.950 --> 00:42:09.810 So I would be interested to get a number to you, 954 00:42:09.810 --> 00:42:12.690 but it's probably a lot. (laughs) 955 00:42:12.690 --> 00:42:14.820 Okay, perfect. 956 00:42:14.820 --> 00:42:15.653 Not a problem. 957 00:42:15.653 --> 00:42:18.930 Mark, do you have a question that you would like to ask 958 00:42:18.930 --> 00:42:20.103 that somebody's asked? 959 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.230 [Mark] I'm sorry, I have myself on mute. 960 00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:27.543 We do have a question in the audience. 961 00:42:28.867 --> 00:42:33.240 "For the, I think, for the newer paintings, 962 00:42:33.240 --> 00:42:37.380 how long did it take them to paint them?" 963 00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:38.760 The last two, I believe. 964 00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:39.860 The last two. 965 00:42:40.890 --> 00:42:45.240 You know, I actually don't have a timeframe on those. 966 00:42:45.240 --> 00:42:50.240 Mr. Simonetti was painting his Monitor work here, 967 00:42:51.180 --> 00:42:55.920 as I mentioned, about for a part of his art school work, 968 00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.803 so I'm sure that was a shorter timeframe. 969 00:42:59.640 --> 00:43:02.340 As for Ewell, I'm not entirely sure, 970 00:43:02.340 --> 00:43:06.120 but those outlines are actually, and I'll go way back, 971 00:43:06.120 --> 00:43:08.190 sorry, if I'm making people dizzy, (laughs) 972 00:43:08.190 --> 00:43:09.023 there we go, 973 00:43:09.023 --> 00:43:11.190 those outlines, very interestingly, 974 00:43:11.190 --> 00:43:13.900 I believe they're actually done with paint pen 975 00:43:15.729 --> 00:43:17.379 if we look closely at that piece. 976 00:43:19.725 --> 00:43:22.080 And so even just outlining those waves 977 00:43:22.080 --> 00:43:24.210 would take a very long time 978 00:43:24.210 --> 00:43:27.243 because this piece is actually larger than you would expect. 979 00:43:28.350 --> 00:43:31.080 And it is worth mentioning that there will be more details 980 00:43:31.080 --> 00:43:34.020 of this piece because y'all got a little bit 981 00:43:34.020 --> 00:43:36.300 of a sneak preview today. 982 00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:39.030 This episode or this painting is featured 983 00:43:39.030 --> 00:43:43.110 in January's episode of "Beyond the Frame," 984 00:43:43.110 --> 00:43:46.350 and so there will be some more detail shots 985 00:43:46.350 --> 00:43:49.410 that can show that closer up. 986 00:43:49.410 --> 00:43:52.980 But really just seeing how thickly the paint was applied 987 00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:56.880 and then how meticulously that he went around 988 00:43:56.880 --> 00:43:59.730 with probably the paint pen. 989 00:43:59.730 --> 00:44:02.520 I mean, I can imagine that this piece would've taken, 990 00:44:02.520 --> 00:44:03.780 you know, several days or, 991 00:44:03.780 --> 00:44:06.333 you know, possibly even a couple of weeks to do. 992 00:44:07.470 --> 00:44:08.790 Wow, thank you. Okay. 993 00:44:08.790 --> 00:44:09.660 Yeah. 994 00:44:09.660 --> 00:44:12.540 Now, to go with that, in the Civil War time, 995 00:44:12.540 --> 00:44:14.430 do you know about how long it took 996 00:44:14.430 --> 00:44:16.680 before those news illustrations that you showed, 997 00:44:16.680 --> 00:44:19.800 the "Harper's Weekly" and I forget what the other one was, 998 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:21.960 how long it took for those to actually be done? 999 00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.450 Were they fairly quickly after the battle 1000 00:44:24.450 --> 00:44:25.440 or after the sinking? 1001 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:26.400 Did they get published? 1002 00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.320 Or were they many years later? 1003 00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:31.660 So those were actually printed fairly quickly 1004 00:44:33.539 --> 00:44:34.372 after the event. 1005 00:44:34.372 --> 00:44:35.340 What's really interesting 1006 00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:39.363 with some of those historic woodblock prints, like the, 1007 00:44:41.580 --> 00:44:43.020 oh goodness, 1008 00:44:43.020 --> 00:44:46.650 like the "Frank Leslie's" and the "Harper's Weekly," 1009 00:44:46.650 --> 00:44:49.770 those, let me get back to it, 1010 00:44:49.770 --> 00:44:52.770 so when they were done in woodblock prints, 1011 00:44:52.770 --> 00:44:55.590 because they wanted illustrated magazines 1012 00:44:55.590 --> 00:44:59.970 and illustrated newspapers wanted visual depictions 1013 00:44:59.970 --> 00:45:02.280 to go out as quickly as possible, 1014 00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:05.520 sometimes there would be multiple artists 1015 00:45:05.520 --> 00:45:09.300 that would actually take a quarter of the scene 1016 00:45:09.300 --> 00:45:10.133 that was depicted. 1017 00:45:10.133 --> 00:45:12.360 So somebody would sketch up a design 1018 00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:16.230 of what the print block was going to look like, 1019 00:45:16.230 --> 00:45:18.780 and then they divided it into four pieces. 1020 00:45:18.780 --> 00:45:21.600 And so then there would be four print makers 1021 00:45:21.600 --> 00:45:26.250 who were all carving the wood blocks very quickly 1022 00:45:26.250 --> 00:45:27.990 and simultaneously, and that made it 1023 00:45:27.990 --> 00:45:32.490 so that they could be produced a little bit more quickly. 1024 00:45:32.490 --> 00:45:36.150 And there were even portable lithography stones 1025 00:45:36.150 --> 00:45:39.930 that were used to depict battle scenes and things like that. 1026 00:45:39.930 --> 00:45:42.630 So some of these could actually be turned around 1027 00:45:42.630 --> 00:45:44.340 in a matter of days. 1028 00:45:44.340 --> 00:45:46.530 So we do have depictions of the sinking. 1029 00:45:46.530 --> 00:45:50.100 These are from January 24th, 1862, 1030 00:45:50.100 --> 00:45:53.493 so, you know, less than a month after the sinking. 1031 00:45:55.140 --> 00:45:59.220 And, you know, for a woodblock carved print, 1032 00:45:59.220 --> 00:46:01.350 you know, that's pretty impressive, 1033 00:46:01.350 --> 00:46:03.233 the speed that they would do that with. 1034 00:46:04.290 --> 00:46:05.253 Okay. Mark? 1035 00:46:06.570 --> 00:46:09.630 So we have a couple of questions mentioning 1036 00:46:09.630 --> 00:46:14.630 that the Rhode Island looked different in each picture. 1037 00:46:15.240 --> 00:46:19.740 And so I guess the question is how accessible were, 1038 00:46:19.740 --> 00:46:22.110 like, pictures or photographs or representations 1039 00:46:22.110 --> 00:46:24.630 of the USS Rhode Island to these artists 1040 00:46:24.630 --> 00:46:26.760 when they were making their artwork? 1041 00:46:26.760 --> 00:46:28.170 So that, I'm not entirely sure, 1042 00:46:28.170 --> 00:46:29.760 but that was actually something that, 1043 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.530 you know, I asked myself, you know, 1044 00:46:31.530 --> 00:46:34.920 even in this print here, 1045 00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:37.500 we can see that things don't look exactly 1046 00:46:37.500 --> 00:46:39.050 how we thought they might look. 1047 00:46:40.050 --> 00:46:43.540 And I had a lot of questions for our conservation staff 1048 00:46:44.820 --> 00:46:47.670 who have worked with some of the technical depictions, 1049 00:46:47.670 --> 00:46:49.320 both of Monitor and, you know, 1050 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.290 as I was going back through some historical documents. 1051 00:46:52.290 --> 00:46:54.240 I think there comes a point where we do have 1052 00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:56.700 to accept that, you know, 1053 00:46:56.700 --> 00:46:58.527 yes, there was photography at the time, 1054 00:46:58.527 --> 00:46:59.890 but it was very limited 1055 00:47:01.380 --> 00:47:06.380 and so the depictions would have likely come from retellings 1056 00:47:07.620 --> 00:47:12.390 of this story mixed sort of with people 1057 00:47:12.390 --> 00:47:16.088 who might have seen these ships before, 1058 00:47:16.088 --> 00:47:17.700 you know, they're in a situation like this. 1059 00:47:17.700 --> 00:47:20.520 So somebody might have seen the Rhode Island at one point 1060 00:47:20.520 --> 00:47:23.850 in time or seen the Monitor at one point in time 1061 00:47:23.850 --> 00:47:26.850 and so they're just depicting it how they saw it 1062 00:47:26.850 --> 00:47:28.650 or how somebody told them that they saw it. 1063 00:47:28.650 --> 00:47:32.433 So sometimes it becomes a little bit of a game of telephone. 1064 00:47:33.930 --> 00:47:38.321 But, you know, yeah, 1065 00:47:38.321 --> 00:47:42.250 mostly historic accounts can sort of warp 1066 00:47:44.142 --> 00:47:46.143 how these ships are actually depicted. 1067 00:47:47.700 --> 00:47:51.540 And there does, like I mentioned, 1068 00:47:51.540 --> 00:47:53.310 we do have to take it with a grain of salt, 1069 00:47:53.310 --> 00:47:56.733 the sort of artistic license that comes in there. 1070 00:47:58.320 --> 00:47:59.640 Okay. 1071 00:47:59.640 --> 00:48:03.540 One other question, Kyra, is in the Ewell's painting, 1072 00:48:03.540 --> 00:48:05.520 the one that looked very different, 1073 00:48:05.520 --> 00:48:08.670 there was a little spot of coral color in the center. 1074 00:48:08.670 --> 00:48:11.040 Did that represent anything? 1075 00:48:11.040 --> 00:48:12.960 That is actually the moon. 1076 00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:14.880 And one of the things that I really, 1077 00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.550 really love about the moon there 1078 00:48:17.550 --> 00:48:22.550 is kind of like with the William Richardson Tyler piece, 1079 00:48:22.710 --> 00:48:26.970 we've just got this one teeny speck of red, 1080 00:48:26.970 --> 00:48:29.550 but in looking at complimentary colors 1081 00:48:29.550 --> 00:48:31.053 or contrasting colors, 1082 00:48:32.100 --> 00:48:34.710 blues and reds or like blue and orange 1083 00:48:34.710 --> 00:48:37.890 are going to be compliments across the color wheel 1084 00:48:37.890 --> 00:48:38.790 from each other. 1085 00:48:38.790 --> 00:48:41.133 And so in using those compliments, 1086 00:48:43.702 --> 00:48:46.170 it really like allows that color to pop 1087 00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:49.050 and become brighter on the canvas 1088 00:48:49.050 --> 00:48:51.630 just from simply being placed next to each other. 1089 00:48:51.630 --> 00:48:54.480 So, you know, if we had a lot of, you know, 1090 00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:59.480 rosy reds or purples that were included in those clouds, 1091 00:49:00.300 --> 00:49:03.720 then that moon that is just really barely peeking out 1092 00:49:03.720 --> 00:49:06.630 from behind those clouds would be so much less visible. 1093 00:49:06.630 --> 00:49:10.170 But in Ewell's use of the blues, 1094 00:49:10.170 --> 00:49:12.000 and the greens and the grays 1095 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:15.090 and then utilizing this high contrast 1096 00:49:15.090 --> 00:49:16.770 corally orange color, 1097 00:49:16.770 --> 00:49:20.220 it allows that moon to just kind of punch through 1098 00:49:20.220 --> 00:49:22.830 so that we understand that it's there in the background. 1099 00:49:22.830 --> 00:49:24.330 You know, and that's one of the things 1100 00:49:24.330 --> 00:49:27.363 that I do love about the color choice in this piece, 1101 00:49:28.470 --> 00:49:31.620 is like I said, he could have treated the clouds differently 1102 00:49:31.620 --> 00:49:34.350 or he could've depicted the moon as being white, 1103 00:49:34.350 --> 00:49:37.050 and it would've totally changed the effect 1104 00:49:37.050 --> 00:49:39.300 of the moon in this piece. 1105 00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:43.260 So those little ticky things like composition, color choice, 1106 00:49:43.260 --> 00:49:46.620 line choice, they really do have such an incredible effect 1107 00:49:46.620 --> 00:49:47.883 on these works of art. 1108 00:49:49.990 --> 00:49:51.033 Okay. Mark? 1109 00:49:52.140 --> 00:49:55.110 Yes, you said that- 1110 00:49:55.110 --> 00:49:55.943 Sorry. 1111 00:49:55.943 --> 00:49:57.870 You were talking about one of the photos 1112 00:49:57.870 --> 00:50:00.243 of the sinking was in the Monitor Center. 1113 00:50:01.178 --> 00:50:02.011 Yes. 1114 00:50:02.011 --> 00:50:06.060 If I wanted to see all four of these paintings, 1115 00:50:06.060 --> 00:50:08.070 where would I go to see them? 1116 00:50:08.070 --> 00:50:10.890 Well, so this work by William Richardson Tyler 1117 00:50:10.890 --> 00:50:13.320 is actually the only one of these four works 1118 00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.270 that is actually on display in our galleries. 1119 00:50:15.270 --> 00:50:17.550 But this one, if you come to the museum 1120 00:50:17.550 --> 00:50:19.920 for just $1 admission 1121 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:23.220 and you head into our USS Monitor Center 1122 00:50:23.220 --> 00:50:26.550 and you kind of follow it back and in, 1123 00:50:26.550 --> 00:50:30.360 you'll pass through the crew quarter type area 1124 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:33.930 and pass to the, what we call the Battle Theater. 1125 00:50:33.930 --> 00:50:38.930 It's a video showing the Battle of Hampton Roads, 1126 00:50:39.720 --> 00:50:43.410 and then off to the left or as you exit the doors 1127 00:50:43.410 --> 00:50:44.490 of the Battle Theater, 1128 00:50:44.490 --> 00:50:46.890 this piece is gonna be right in front of you. 1129 00:50:46.890 --> 00:50:49.500 And it's kind of in a little hallway-type area, 1130 00:50:49.500 --> 00:50:52.050 and it's got a glass vitrine around it. 1131 00:50:52.050 --> 00:50:53.160 But it is stunning. 1132 00:50:53.160 --> 00:50:55.680 And let me tell you, it is far more stunning in person, 1133 00:50:55.680 --> 00:50:58.110 so I do highly recommend anybody who's local 1134 00:50:58.110 --> 00:51:00.330 or planning a trip to Newport News, 1135 00:51:00.330 --> 00:51:01.980 please do come and see it. 1136 00:51:01.980 --> 00:51:06.980 Now, these other three works are actually in our storage. 1137 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:11.400 So the Ewell piece, as I mentioned, 1138 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.940 will be featured in "Beyond the Frame's," 1139 00:51:14.940 --> 00:51:16.440 in the episode of "Beyond the Frame" 1140 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:20.220 that airs Friday, January 5th, I believe. 1141 00:51:20.220 --> 00:51:22.260 It's the first Friday in January. 1142 00:51:22.260 --> 00:51:26.860 And then the Michael Simonetti work 1143 00:51:27.724 --> 00:51:31.290 of USS Monitor on the sea floor is actually our episode 1144 00:51:31.290 --> 00:51:34.320 from August that we featured. 1145 00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.860 And really cool, it just so happened that it fell 1146 00:51:37.860 --> 00:51:40.260 on the anniversary of the turret recovery. 1147 00:51:40.260 --> 00:51:42.330 So that was a really, really special anniversary 1148 00:51:42.330 --> 00:51:44.370 to get to celebrate with this piece. 1149 00:51:44.370 --> 00:51:46.260 So you can find those two online. 1150 00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:48.780 You can also head to the museum's catalogs 1151 00:51:48.780 --> 00:51:52.890 at catalogs.marinersmuseum.org 1152 00:51:52.890 --> 00:51:57.300 to find more works in our collection. 1153 00:51:57.300 --> 00:52:00.660 You can filter down and search further from there. 1154 00:52:00.660 --> 00:52:03.840 And some of them do have images associated with them 1155 00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.210 as well as information about the artists, 1156 00:52:06.210 --> 00:52:07.590 about the work, about the sinking 1157 00:52:07.590 --> 00:52:09.690 and about some of the vessels depicted. 1158 00:52:09.690 --> 00:52:14.370 So for any of these pieces that aren't accessible 1159 00:52:14.370 --> 00:52:16.410 either through "Beyond the Frame" episodes 1160 00:52:16.410 --> 00:52:19.980 or through coming and visiting them in our galleries, 1161 00:52:19.980 --> 00:52:22.830 I do highly recommend y'all go online and check them out. 1162 00:52:23.910 --> 00:52:25.680 Okay, and with that I'll just go ahead 1163 00:52:25.680 --> 00:52:30.330 and remind everybody to download Kyra's bio in the chat box 1164 00:52:30.330 --> 00:52:32.820 because in that bio we put most of those links 1165 00:52:32.820 --> 00:52:34.200 that she just mentioned. 1166 00:52:34.200 --> 00:52:36.210 We put those in that bio 1167 00:52:36.210 --> 00:52:39.540 so you can get all that information there. 1168 00:52:39.540 --> 00:52:40.860 Any last minute questions? 1169 00:52:40.860 --> 00:52:42.963 I think we have time for maybe one more. 1170 00:52:48.690 --> 00:52:50.130 Let's see. 1171 00:52:50.130 --> 00:52:55.130 Can you tell me in the photo of the first photo you showed 1172 00:52:55.140 --> 00:52:57.150 with the sinking of the Monitor, 1173 00:52:57.150 --> 00:52:58.470 and I think you did talk about this, 1174 00:52:58.470 --> 00:53:01.020 but could you explain a little bit more about what 1175 00:53:01.020 --> 00:53:03.360 that bright light is on the Rhode Island 1176 00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.760 and the shadowy area of the photo? 1177 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.020 Yes, absolutely. 1178 00:53:07.020 --> 00:53:10.320 So that red lantern 1179 00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.890 on the Rhode Island is Rhode Island's signal lantern. 1180 00:53:13.890 --> 00:53:16.680 And I believe just as Monitor would've had, 1181 00:53:16.680 --> 00:53:19.500 you know, the red signal lantern as well. 1182 00:53:19.500 --> 00:53:21.210 But I just think stylistically 1183 00:53:21.210 --> 00:53:24.210 it's so poignant and so beautiful 1184 00:53:24.210 --> 00:53:28.230 that we see it on USS Rhode Island 1185 00:53:28.230 --> 00:53:31.800 and in the same way that the orange of the moon 1186 00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:36.150 in Ewell's depiction of the sinking really stood out. 1187 00:53:36.150 --> 00:53:39.279 The red here creates a contrast that allows 1188 00:53:39.279 --> 00:53:43.560 that teensy, teensy, tiny little dab of red to stick out 1189 00:53:43.560 --> 00:53:46.380 even more so that, you know, 1190 00:53:46.380 --> 00:53:49.680 those of us who do know about the sinking, 1191 00:53:49.680 --> 00:53:52.830 who do know about the red lantern, 1192 00:53:52.830 --> 00:53:55.140 you know, can kind of get that immediately. 1193 00:53:55.140 --> 00:53:58.390 But this work is in our galleries 1194 00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:03.450 right near the lantern from USS Monitor. 1195 00:54:03.450 --> 00:54:06.540 And so I do hope that for those who come and see the work 1196 00:54:06.540 --> 00:54:10.173 in the galleries, they can sort of make that connection. 1197 00:54:11.520 --> 00:54:14.160 Okay, well, thank you, Kyra. 1198 00:54:14.160 --> 00:54:16.710 This was most fascinating. 1199 00:54:16.710 --> 00:54:19.230 Now, if we did not get to your question 1200 00:54:19.230 --> 00:54:20.640 or if you have additional ones, 1201 00:54:20.640 --> 00:54:22.620 you can all always send them to Kyra. 1202 00:54:22.620 --> 00:54:25.620 And her email address is listed here on the screen. 1203 00:54:25.620 --> 00:54:27.180 We also invite you to learn more 1204 00:54:27.180 --> 00:54:29.190 about visiting The Mariners Museum's website, 1205 00:54:29.190 --> 00:54:31.190 which is also listed here on the screen. 1206 00:54:32.610 --> 00:54:35.340 A video recording of this presentation will be available 1207 00:54:35.340 --> 00:54:37.740 on the sanctuary's webinar archives page, 1208 00:54:37.740 --> 00:54:39.930 and that's going to be found at that long URL 1209 00:54:39.930 --> 00:54:41.370 that's listed at the top of the page. 1210 00:54:41.370 --> 00:54:43.890 But don't worry, we're going to send it to you. 1211 00:54:43.890 --> 00:54:45.810 In addition, the webinar will be archived 1212 00:54:45.810 --> 00:54:49.050 on Monitor National Marine Sanctuary's website. 1213 00:54:49.050 --> 00:54:51.180 You'll just click on the multimedia tab section 1214 00:54:51.180 --> 00:54:53.250 in the toolbar to access the webinar box. 1215 00:54:53.250 --> 00:54:56.700 You'll also find future webinars in that same section. 1216 00:54:56.700 --> 00:54:57.960 And as I said, don't worry, 1217 00:54:57.960 --> 00:54:59.730 all of this information is gonna be sent to you 1218 00:54:59.730 --> 00:55:02.670 in a follow up email once the recording is ready to view, 1219 00:55:02.670 --> 00:55:04.680 and that usually takes about a week 1220 00:55:04.680 --> 00:55:06.960 before we get this up online. 1221 00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:09.813 So it will be up probably within a week or so. 1222 00:55:11.280 --> 00:55:12.870 But we do also host, 1223 00:55:12.870 --> 00:55:16.410 I'm sorry, we do also encourage you to join us back 1224 00:55:16.410 --> 00:55:19.230 in January, January 31st at 1:00 PM, 1225 00:55:19.230 --> 00:55:22.170 Captain Bobbie Scholley, US Navy retired, 1226 00:55:22.170 --> 00:55:26.310 who led the 2002 expedition to recover the Monitor's turret, 1227 00:55:26.310 --> 00:55:27.180 will be joining us. 1228 00:55:27.180 --> 00:55:29.880 And so come hear about the challenges the expedition faced, 1229 00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:31.560 and the triumphs and more 1230 00:55:31.560 --> 00:55:36.243 as she tells us the story of her leading the expedition. 1231 00:55:38.130 --> 00:55:40.830 And of course we invite you to follow us on social media. 1232 00:55:40.830 --> 00:55:42.180 So just stay in touch 1233 00:55:42.180 --> 00:55:44.460 and see what's happening within the Sanctuary. 1234 00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:46.293 We're on both Facebook and Twitter. 1235 00:55:47.640 --> 00:55:49.410 And lastly, as you exit the webinar, 1236 00:55:49.410 --> 00:55:52.560 there is a short survey for formal and informal educators. 1237 00:55:52.560 --> 00:55:55.860 So if you are an educator, NOAA would really appreciate it, 1238 00:55:55.860 --> 00:55:57.900 If you just take a minute or two to complete the survey. 1239 00:55:57.900 --> 00:56:00.180 I think there's like five or six questions. 1240 00:56:00.180 --> 00:56:02.640 Your answers will help NOAA develop future webinars 1241 00:56:02.640 --> 00:56:03.473 to meet your needs. 1242 00:56:03.473 --> 00:56:05.190 And your participation is voluntary 1243 00:56:05.190 --> 00:56:07.293 and your answers are completely anonymous. 1244 00:56:08.790 --> 00:56:10.440 So once again, we want to thank Kyra 1245 00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:12.180 for a great presentation. 1246 00:56:12.180 --> 00:56:14.460 And thank you for taking the time to join us today. 1247 00:56:14.460 --> 00:56:15.570 Have a wonderful day. 1248 00:56:15.570 --> 00:56:17.220 And this concludes the broadcast.