WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:01.380
<v ->Good evening, everyone.</v>

2
00:00:01.380 --> 00:00:03.570
We are so glad that you could join us today

3
00:00:03.570 --> 00:00:06.630
for this wonderful webinar to help us celebrate

4
00:00:06.630 --> 00:00:09.810
the National Marine Sanctuary's 50th anniversary,

5
00:00:09.810 --> 00:00:12.183
Ocean Month, and of course, Pride Month.

6
00:00:13.020 --> 00:00:15.300
My name is Mark Losavio reporting to you live

7
00:00:15.300 --> 00:00:17.580
from the ancestral lands of the Piscataway People

8
00:00:17.580 --> 00:00:21.102
at Mallows Bay-Potomac River National Marine Sanctuary,

9
00:00:21.102 --> 00:00:22.770
and it's my pleasure to introduce Anne-Marie Runfola,

10
00:00:22.770 --> 00:00:24.783
who will start us off with a few words.

11
00:00:27.510 --> 00:00:28.620
[Anne-Marie Runfola] Hello everyone.

12
00:00:28.620 --> 00:00:31.740
I'm Anne-Marie Runfola, senior advisor to the directors

13
00:00:31.740 --> 00:00:34.020
of the Office of National Marine Sanctuaries.

14
00:00:34.020 --> 00:00:36.120
I'm so happy to be here today with you all

15
00:00:36.120 --> 00:00:40.050
to celebrate Pride Month, our LGBTQ plus community,

16
00:00:40.050 --> 00:00:44.068
and to highlight marine related careers within NOAA

17
00:00:44.068 --> 00:00:45.480
and the Office of National Marine Sanctuaries,

18
00:00:45.480 --> 00:00:48.780
affectionately known as ONMS.

19
00:00:48.780 --> 00:00:50.820
Thank you to our host and presenters tonight

20
00:00:50.820 --> 00:00:52.740
and to the Office of National Marine Sanctuaries

21
00:00:52.740 --> 00:00:55.020
and the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation

22
00:00:55.020 --> 00:00:57.540
for the Diversity and Inclusion Mini Grant

23
00:00:57.540 --> 00:00:59.250
that is funding this program,

24
00:00:59.250 --> 00:01:01.440
and thanks to all of you for joining us.

25
00:01:01.440 --> 00:01:03.720
I'm looking forward to hearing our presenter stories

26
00:01:03.720 --> 00:01:06.510
and to hearing all of your questions.

27
00:01:06.510 --> 00:01:08.040
We have a couple logistics.

28
00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:11.610
During the presentations, you will be in listen only mode.

29
00:01:11.610 --> 00:01:14.070
You are welcome to type questions for the panelists

30
00:01:14.070 --> 00:01:15.330
into the question box,

31
00:01:15.330 --> 00:01:17.550
which is at the bottom of the control panel

32
00:01:17.550 --> 00:01:20.040
on the right hand side of your screen.

33
00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:22.200
This is the same area where you can let us know

34
00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:24.300
if you're having any technical issues

35
00:01:24.300 --> 00:01:26.940
and we'll monitor that and help you

36
00:01:26.940 --> 00:01:29.010
and respond as soon as we can.

37
00:01:29.010 --> 00:01:30.300
We're recording this session

38
00:01:30.300 --> 00:01:33.120
and we'll share the recording with registered participants

39
00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:35.460
through the webinar archive page,

40
00:01:35.460 --> 00:01:37.440
and we'll share a URL for that page

41
00:01:37.440 --> 00:01:40.530
will be provided at the end of the presentation.

42
00:01:40.530 --> 00:01:42.033
Next slide please Mark.

43
00:01:44.610 --> 00:01:47.400
So the Office of National Marine Sanctuaries,

44
00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:50.640
National Marine Sanctuary System is a nationwide network

45
00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:53.670
of 15, so far, National Marine Sanctuaries

46
00:01:53.670 --> 00:01:55.650
and two Marine National Monuments

47
00:01:55.650 --> 00:02:00.540
that can serve more than 620,000 square miles

48
00:02:00.540 --> 00:02:03.690
of spectacular ocean and Great Lakes waters.

49
00:02:03.690 --> 00:02:07.530
That's an area nearly the size of Alaska and growing.

50
00:02:07.530 --> 00:02:09.990
These underwater national parks are designated

51
00:02:09.990 --> 00:02:11.820
as special places by NOAA

52
00:02:11.820 --> 00:02:14.460
through local and regional community proposals

53
00:02:14.460 --> 00:02:18.330
for a variety of reasons, including the rich biodiversity,

54
00:02:18.330 --> 00:02:21.360
cultural and maritime heritage resources,

55
00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.820
and areas that are havens for wildlife,

56
00:02:23.820 --> 00:02:28.470
such as marine mammals, seabirds, fish, and other wildlife.

57
00:02:28.470 --> 00:02:30.600
We protect these special places for the benefit

58
00:02:30.600 --> 00:02:32.970
of all communities across the nation.

59
00:02:32.970 --> 00:02:36.030
To be effective stewards of these significant and diverse

60
00:02:36.030 --> 00:02:38.160
natural and cultural resources,

61
00:02:38.160 --> 00:02:40.410
we must ensure that our workforce reflects

62
00:02:40.410 --> 00:02:43.470
the communities in which we live, work, and play.

63
00:02:43.470 --> 00:02:46.050
The longevity and success of our system depends on

64
00:02:46.050 --> 00:02:49.020
creating a culture that's welcome and inclusive.

65
00:02:49.020 --> 00:02:50.400
It also depends on ensuring

66
00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.670
the places we can serve are accessible, relevant to,

67
00:02:53.670 --> 00:02:57.030
and can serve for current and future generations.

68
00:02:57.030 --> 00:02:58.920
Being truly accessible includes

69
00:02:58.920 --> 00:03:00.840
addressing physical access to our sites.

70
00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.880
There's some that are really remote,

71
00:03:02.880 --> 00:03:04.770
but goes far beyond that to include

72
00:03:04.770 --> 00:03:08.070
an examination of access to our management processes,

73
00:03:08.070 --> 00:03:10.560
hiring actions, educational offerings,

74
00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:13.440
research and volunteer programs and more.

75
00:03:13.440 --> 00:03:15.300
We're committed to ensuring our workplace

76
00:03:15.300 --> 00:03:18.330
is free of discrimination, harassment, and reprisal

77
00:03:18.330 --> 00:03:20.790
where integrity, fairness, teamwork, and equity

78
00:03:20.790 --> 00:03:23.640
are the norm, not the exception.

79
00:03:23.640 --> 00:03:27.300
Our director sent this statement out recently to all staff

80
00:03:27.300 --> 00:03:29.550
as a promise to do everything in his power

81
00:03:29.550 --> 00:03:31.680
and to call us to join him,

82
00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.590
to ensure ONMS is welcoming, diverse,

83
00:03:34.590 --> 00:03:36.930
and a resilient workplace where everyone

84
00:03:36.930 --> 00:03:40.290
can be their authentic selves and do their best work.

85
00:03:40.290 --> 00:03:42.180
This also extends to our communities

86
00:03:42.180 --> 00:03:44.670
that we provide equitable access to resources,

87
00:03:44.670 --> 00:03:46.950
programs, and opportunities.

88
00:03:46.950 --> 00:03:48.540
We still have a long way to go,

89
00:03:48.540 --> 00:03:51.540
but I'd like to highlight a few of the many accomplishments.

90
00:03:51.540 --> 00:03:55.380
NOAA offers employee resource groups, such as NOAA Pride.

91
00:03:55.380 --> 00:03:59.160
ERGs as they're called are voluntary employee led groups

92
00:03:59.160 --> 00:04:01.800
whose aim is to foster a diverse, inclusive workplace

93
00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.514
aligned with the organizations they serve

94
00:04:04.514 --> 00:04:07.380
and to develop allies to support all employees, contractors,

95
00:04:07.380 --> 00:04:10.410
affiliates, volunteers, and interns at NOAA.

96
00:04:10.410 --> 00:04:12.840
We have an ONMS Diversity Inclusion Committee.

97
00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:15.810
Several on the team here on this webinar tonight have been

98
00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:19.080
very involved in creating and sustaining this committee.

99
00:04:19.080 --> 00:04:21.990
Our goal is to help transform our workplace culture;

100
00:04:21.990 --> 00:04:25.440
to require and celebrate diversity, equity, inclusion,

101
00:04:25.440 --> 00:04:28.500
accessibility, and justice; to foster a safe, welcoming,

102
00:04:28.500 --> 00:04:30.720
and respectful environment for all team members;

103
00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:33.070
and to provide a space where anyone could share

104
00:04:34.660 --> 00:04:38.130
feedback and ideas to strengthen the ONMS program.

105
00:04:38.130 --> 00:04:40.500
We've sourced funds for more paid internships

106
00:04:40.500 --> 00:04:43.890
to provide more equitable access to these experiences.

107
00:04:43.890 --> 00:04:47.250
We require diverse hiring panels and updated practices

108
00:04:47.250 --> 00:04:51.630
to anonymize applicant identities during the review process.

109
00:04:51.630 --> 00:04:54.510
We use more diverse recruiting practices

110
00:04:54.510 --> 00:04:55.650
and these mini grants,

111
00:04:55.650 --> 00:04:57.570
the diversity inclusion mini grants,

112
00:04:57.570 --> 00:04:59.700
to provide for programs for our community,

113
00:04:59.700 --> 00:05:01.380
such as this one tonight,

114
00:05:01.380 --> 00:05:03.840
and in process we're obtaining permission right now

115
00:05:03.840 --> 00:05:08.075
to fly pride flags on government owned and leased buildings.

116
00:05:08.075 --> 00:05:09.660
It's coming soon, and boy, are we gonna celebrate it,

117
00:05:09.660 --> 00:05:13.170
and you'll see pictures everywhere so stay tuned for that.

118
00:05:13.170 --> 00:05:15.030
So now I'd like to turn over the program

119
00:05:15.030 --> 00:05:18.074
to Anna and Kennedy, two colleagues and friends

120
00:05:18.074 --> 00:05:19.830
from Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary

121
00:05:19.830 --> 00:05:23.162
to introduce themselves and then our panel.

122
00:05:23.162 --> 00:05:24.053
Thank you so much.

123
00:05:35.340 --> 00:05:38.250
<v ->Hi everybody, my name is Anna Marchand.</v>

124
00:05:38.250 --> 00:05:42.390
I use she/her pronouns and I am an AmeriCorps service member

125
00:05:42.390 --> 00:05:45.780
at Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary,

126
00:05:45.780 --> 00:05:49.083
and we are just so excited to be with you here tonight.

127
00:05:51.360 --> 00:05:53.520
<v ->My name's Kennedy and I use they/them pronouns</v>

128
00:05:53.520 --> 00:05:55.830
and I am also an AmeriCorps service member

129
00:05:55.830 --> 00:05:58.650
at Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary.

130
00:05:58.650 --> 00:06:00.810
So before we introduce our panelists,

131
00:06:00.810 --> 00:06:02.910
Anna and I would like to acknowledge

132
00:06:02.910 --> 00:06:06.360
that the waters of Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary

133
00:06:06.360 --> 00:06:08.130
lie within the usual and accustomed

134
00:06:08.130 --> 00:06:11.640
hunting and fishing areas of four coastal treaty tribes.

135
00:06:11.640 --> 00:06:14.160
Those are the Ho tribe, the Makah tribe,

136
00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:17.340
the Quileute tribe, and the Quinault Indian Nation.

137
00:06:17.340 --> 00:06:18.960
We recognize and respect

138
00:06:18.960 --> 00:06:21.180
the vibrant contemporary communities

139
00:06:21.180 --> 00:06:23.310
of these sovereign coastal treaty nations

140
00:06:23.310 --> 00:06:26.670
and the longstanding, since time immemorial, relationship

141
00:06:26.670 --> 00:06:29.520
that the tribes have with the marine environment,

142
00:06:29.520 --> 00:06:31.200
and while those are our waters,

143
00:06:31.200 --> 00:06:34.680
the offices of Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary

144
00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:37.290
in Port Angeles, Washington actually sit on the lands

145
00:06:37.290 --> 00:06:39.690
of the Lower Elwha Klallam tribe.

146
00:06:39.690 --> 00:06:41.700
The vibrant and contemporary communities

147
00:06:41.700 --> 00:06:43.800
of the S'Klallam Coast Salish people

148
00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.927
represented by the Lower Elwha Klallam,

149
00:06:46.927 --> 00:06:48.328
the Port Gamble S'Klallam,

150
00:06:48.328 --> 00:06:51.060
and the Jamestown S'Klallam tribes continue to be leaders

151
00:06:51.060 --> 00:06:52.980
in environmental stewardship for the lands

152
00:06:52.980 --> 00:06:55.383
that they have always cared for and depended on.

153
00:06:57.900 --> 00:07:00.660
<v ->We would also like to acknowledge this evening</v>

154
00:07:00.660 --> 00:07:03.420
that this virtual presentation is taking place

155
00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:07.440
throughout the territories of many indigenous communities,

156
00:07:07.440 --> 00:07:09.180
and so with that in mind,

157
00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:11.760
we are going to use the chat option here

158
00:07:11.760 --> 00:07:16.480
to send you a website called NativeLand-CA

159
00:07:17.624 --> 00:07:18.840
so that you all can take a moment

160
00:07:18.840 --> 00:07:22.323
to recognize the land that you currently reside on.

161
00:07:34.980 --> 00:07:37.950
Right, and with that in mind, let's go to our next slide

162
00:07:37.950 --> 00:07:40.083
and start introducing our panelists.

163
00:07:44.730 --> 00:07:46.691
Brilliant, okay,

164
00:07:46.691 --> 00:07:50.550
so I have the absolute pleasure of introducing Liz Weinberg

165
00:07:50.550 --> 00:07:52.320
if she could come on screen

166
00:07:52.320 --> 00:07:54.270
and tell us a little bit about herself.

167
00:07:56.880 --> 00:07:58.503
<v Liz>I can try.</v>

168
00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:01.713
Yes, can you see me now?

169
00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:07.553
<v ->Not really.</v>

170
00:08:08.460 --> 00:08:09.543
<v Liz>Oh, no.</v>

171
00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.760
<v ->We see a black screen,</v>

172
00:08:13.760 --> 00:08:17.883
so it looks like maybe your webcam is covered or turned off.

173
00:08:19.590 --> 00:08:21.120
<v Liz>Do you want to come back to me</v>

174
00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:23.763
while I figure out what just broke with my camera?

175
00:08:25.950 --> 00:08:27.850
<v ->Yes, why don't we go ahead and skip.</v>

176
00:08:29.578 --> 00:08:31.590
<v ->Yeah, so we'll go ahead and have Leon come on</v>

177
00:08:31.590 --> 00:08:32.943
and introduce themselves.

178
00:08:42.135 --> 00:08:43.290
<v ->Cool, we're good on my end.</v>

179
00:08:43.290 --> 00:08:46.110
Sorry, was not expecting the sudden change.

180
00:08:46.110 --> 00:08:47.710
<v ->Yeah, we can see and hear you.</v>

181
00:08:48.988 --> 00:08:50.536
<v ->Cool, thanks all.</v>

182
00:08:50.536 --> 00:08:52.965
(person speaking in foreign language)

183
00:08:52.965 --> 00:08:55.523
Hi everyone, thanks for having me, my name is Leon Wang.

184
00:08:56.428 --> 00:09:00.180
I go by they/them or ki/kin pronouns.

185
00:09:00.180 --> 00:09:04.350
I am typically based on the unseated ancestral lands

186
00:09:04.350 --> 00:09:06.386
of the Tongva tribes,

187
00:09:06.386 --> 00:09:08.430
colloquially known as Riverside in Southern California,

188
00:09:08.430 --> 00:09:11.940
but because I am quite nomadic or side note,

189
00:09:11.940 --> 00:09:14.523
I often say that my sexuality is geo-flexible,

190
00:09:15.671 --> 00:09:19.230
I'm currently tuning in from the lands of the Wahpekute land

191
00:09:19.230 --> 00:09:23.553
of Dakota tribe, also known as Minneapolis in Minnesota.

192
00:09:26.160 --> 00:09:28.980
I come with many different titles

193
00:09:28.980 --> 00:09:30.480
being an extreme generalist,

194
00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.900
and so you can definitely read about it in the PDF

195
00:09:33.900 --> 00:09:37.770
or on my LinkedIn, but would just say

196
00:09:37.770 --> 00:09:41.520
the way that I've come to job into the ocean

197
00:09:41.520 --> 00:09:44.970
and into this career has really just been about

198
00:09:44.970 --> 00:09:48.990
carving my own space and following my own passions,

199
00:09:48.990 --> 00:09:51.180
and much of that has been lately

200
00:09:51.180 --> 00:09:54.990
and very much inspired by indigenous leaders,

201
00:09:54.990 --> 00:09:57.960
hence why it's so important to connect with our ancestors

202
00:09:57.960 --> 00:10:00.930
and also recognizing we are living ancestors,

203
00:10:00.930 --> 00:10:04.826
and so I'm gonna stop there and leave it short and sweet

204
00:10:04.826 --> 00:10:07.376
so we can dive in and pass it on the next panelist.

205
00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:15.870
<v ->Right, now Liz, if you'd like to take it away again.</v>

206
00:10:15.870 --> 00:10:18.660
<v ->My camera works now, thanks for your patience.</v>

207
00:10:18.660 --> 00:10:19.493
So hi everyone, yeah.

208
00:10:19.493 --> 00:10:21.570
My name is Liz Weinberg, my pronouns are she and her,

209
00:10:21.570 --> 00:10:24.240
and I'm really excited to be joining today

210
00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:26.130
from the unseated and traditional homelands

211
00:10:26.130 --> 00:10:29.990
of the Chinook peoples also known as Portland, Oregon,

212
00:10:29.990 --> 00:10:32.220
which is my home for another about a week

213
00:10:32.220 --> 00:10:34.740
before I relocate down the coast,

214
00:10:34.740 --> 00:10:37.740
and I wear a lot of different hats,

215
00:10:37.740 --> 00:10:39.030
I think sort of like Leon,

216
00:10:39.030 --> 00:10:42.150
but at the core I tell stories about science

217
00:10:42.150 --> 00:10:44.580
and I help connect researchers and communities.

218
00:10:44.580 --> 00:10:46.830
I don't have a traditional science background,

219
00:10:46.830 --> 00:10:50.070
but I did get to spend five years working with

220
00:10:50.070 --> 00:10:51.990
NOAA's Office of National Marine Sanctuaries

221
00:10:51.990 --> 00:10:54.600
as the digital outreach coordinator and writer

222
00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:57.420
helping tell stories about sanctuaries,

223
00:10:57.420 --> 00:10:59.220
and now I work with an interagency group

224
00:10:59.220 --> 00:11:01.920
to connect Arctic researchers and communities,

225
00:11:01.920 --> 00:11:04.800
and that's sort of one part of what I do,

226
00:11:04.800 --> 00:11:07.950
but then I also have a background in creative writing

227
00:11:07.950 --> 00:11:10.620
and that's sort of my passion

228
00:11:10.620 --> 00:11:12.300
and a lot of what I spend my time on,

229
00:11:12.300 --> 00:11:14.250
and I have a book of essays about climate change

230
00:11:14.250 --> 00:11:16.380
and queerness coming out this fall.

231
00:11:16.380 --> 00:11:17.610
So I like to balance

232
00:11:17.610 --> 00:11:21.690
the sort of more technical science communication

233
00:11:21.690 --> 00:11:24.423
with the more creative side, thank you.

234
00:11:29.940 --> 00:11:30.773
<v ->Fantastic.</v>

235
00:11:30.773 --> 00:11:32.430
<v ->And we'll go ahead and have Dylan</v>

236
00:11:32.430 --> 00:11:33.873
introduce themselves next.

237
00:11:37.740 --> 00:11:40.800
<v ->Hi everyone, my name's Dylan.</v>

238
00:11:40.800 --> 00:11:43.890
I'm joining from the traditional and unseated lands

239
00:11:43.890 --> 00:11:48.240
of the Wampanoag people in Woodshole, Massachusetts.

240
00:11:48.240 --> 00:11:51.630
I also do a smattering of different things,

241
00:11:51.630 --> 00:11:53.550
but the theme that kind ties

242
00:11:53.550 --> 00:11:55.560
my different research directions

243
00:11:55.560 --> 00:11:57.180
and science directions together is

244
00:11:57.180 --> 00:12:00.870
looking at variation in populations

245
00:12:00.870 --> 00:12:03.543
and the ways that geography can make a difference,

246
00:12:04.500 --> 00:12:07.439
and I'm currently here working at

247
00:12:07.439 --> 00:12:09.150
Woodshole Oceanographic Institution,

248
00:12:09.150 --> 00:12:12.863
but I also also do work with a seabird breeding colony

249
00:12:12.863 --> 00:12:15.663
up in Maine, and I've been various other places as well.

250
00:12:17.490 --> 00:12:19.743
I'll pass it on to Matt.

251
00:12:21.690 --> 00:12:24.930
<v ->Thank you very much, and last but not least, Matt,</v>

252
00:12:24.930 --> 00:12:27.630
if you could please share a little bit about yourself.

253
00:12:29.073 --> 00:12:30.120
<v ->Hi everyone, Matt Stout.</v>

254
00:12:30.120 --> 00:12:32.610
I'm he/him,

255
00:12:32.610 --> 00:12:37.610
I'm currently in the DC area from rural Arizona.

256
00:12:38.250 --> 00:12:40.770
I like Liz don't have

257
00:12:40.770 --> 00:12:43.653
a science background, but rather communications.

258
00:12:44.518 --> 00:12:47.740
I came to Washington in 1990 and

259
00:12:48.810 --> 00:12:53.010
went to work for a senator and then a congresswoman

260
00:12:53.010 --> 00:12:57.240
before coming to NOAA in '95,

261
00:12:57.240 --> 00:13:01.320
and so I had seen a lot of changes in the work environment

262
00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:06.000
and the acceptance of the LGBTQ plus community,

263
00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.340
and I am just moved.

264
00:13:08.340 --> 00:13:11.100
I was just at the DC pride recently

265
00:13:11.100 --> 00:13:15.810
and just moved by how far we've come from the march in '92

266
00:13:15.810 --> 00:13:19.710
where we were literally fighting to be recognized

267
00:13:19.710 --> 00:13:23.460
to have basic rights to where we are now.

268
00:13:23.460 --> 00:13:25.653
I'm just so proud of how far we've come.

269
00:13:26.760 --> 00:13:27.593
Thank you.

270
00:13:29.935 --> 00:13:32.670
<v ->Great, and so now I will start with our first question.</v>

271
00:13:32.670 --> 00:13:33.540
Just a quick reminder,

272
00:13:33.540 --> 00:13:35.850
while you guys are typing questions

273
00:13:35.850 --> 00:13:37.920
on the right hand side of your screen,

274
00:13:37.920 --> 00:13:40.140
there should be a question or chat option

275
00:13:40.140 --> 00:13:42.385
for you to type in any questions you have

276
00:13:42.385 --> 00:13:43.800
for any of our panelists at any time.

277
00:13:43.800 --> 00:13:45.180
But while you guys are typing that,

278
00:13:45.180 --> 00:13:47.010
I would like to pose one question

279
00:13:47.010 --> 00:13:51.570
to all four of our panelists, and we can start with Liz.

280
00:13:51.570 --> 00:13:54.240
How did you carve your own space

281
00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.123
as a member of the LGBTQ in your career field?

282
00:13:59.880 --> 00:14:02.010
<v ->That's a great question, and I think for me,</v>

283
00:14:02.010 --> 00:14:06.270
it's been a little bit of doing it on multiple paths

284
00:14:06.270 --> 00:14:07.350
in multiple contexts.

285
00:14:07.350 --> 00:14:09.363
So in my creative work,

286
00:14:11.430 --> 00:14:14.250
my queerness is really central to the writing that I do,

287
00:14:14.250 --> 00:14:17.400
and I want to always be thinking about

288
00:14:17.400 --> 00:14:19.437
how I can understand the world around me

289
00:14:19.437 --> 00:14:21.720
and nature and the ocean and climate change

290
00:14:21.720 --> 00:14:22.560
through a queer lens,

291
00:14:22.560 --> 00:14:25.830
because that's the way that I understand the world.

292
00:14:25.830 --> 00:14:26.850
Through a professional lens,

293
00:14:26.850 --> 00:14:29.062
particularly working in the government,

294
00:14:29.062 --> 00:14:30.130
it's been sometimes

295
00:14:32.610 --> 00:14:34.830
a lot of adjusting to other folks

296
00:14:34.830 --> 00:14:38.430
and how they're perceiving me and perceiving our community,

297
00:14:38.430 --> 00:14:39.263
and I found that

298
00:14:39.263 --> 00:14:42.420
it's really about being consistent

299
00:14:42.420 --> 00:14:45.270
and just speaking up and speaking with people,

300
00:14:45.270 --> 00:14:48.090
and so whether it's doing something like

301
00:14:48.090 --> 00:14:49.170
launching Pride in the Ocean,

302
00:14:49.170 --> 00:14:54.150
which I helped do four years ago within sanctuaries,

303
00:14:54.150 --> 00:14:59.130
because we wanted to start a way to give LGBTQ folks

304
00:14:59.130 --> 00:15:03.300
a voice within ocean science and ocean conservation,

305
00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:07.320
so I helped found that with Pride Outside or just

306
00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:08.760
speaking to people and making sure

307
00:15:08.760 --> 00:15:09.990
that they were thinking about creating

308
00:15:09.990 --> 00:15:13.260
gender neutral bathrooms, just being a consistent voice

309
00:15:13.260 --> 00:15:15.610
for things that we can do to be more inclusive.

310
00:15:27.570 --> 00:15:29.190
<v ->Sorry, everybody, I muted myself.</v>

311
00:15:29.190 --> 00:15:31.230
Matt, if you could follow up and tell us

312
00:15:31.230 --> 00:15:33.543
how did you carve your space in your career?

313
00:15:34.920 --> 00:15:35.753
<v ->Well, I think</v>

314
00:15:40.637 --> 00:15:42.660
when I first started my career,

315
00:15:42.660 --> 00:15:44.530
I worked for a senator from Arizona

316
00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:46.943
who

317
00:15:48.150 --> 00:15:49.110
wanted to promote

318
00:15:49.110 --> 00:15:52.140
a good friend of mine to the staff

319
00:15:52.140 --> 00:15:54.990
on the intelligence committee, but because he was gay,

320
00:15:54.990 --> 00:15:58.740
back then you couldn't get a security clearance,

321
00:15:58.740 --> 00:16:02.520
and I learned from the senator and from my friend

322
00:16:02.520 --> 00:16:05.430
that there are great role models out there,

323
00:16:05.430 --> 00:16:08.700
and so from that day on, when I came to NOAA,

324
00:16:08.700 --> 00:16:13.700
I got involved in Federal Globe, which was a precursor to,

325
00:16:14.280 --> 00:16:16.890
I guess the closest thing would be NOAA Pride,

326
00:16:16.890 --> 00:16:17.723
where

327
00:16:18.690 --> 00:16:20.310
we

328
00:16:20.310 --> 00:16:23.850
learned how to be ourselves in our work environment

329
00:16:23.850 --> 00:16:25.230
and represent who we were,

330
00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:28.180
but also represent the broader community the best we could.

331
00:16:32.070 --> 00:16:33.930
<v ->Great, thank you.</v>

332
00:16:33.930 --> 00:16:35.730
Dylan, if you could follow up and tell us,

333
00:16:35.730 --> 00:16:37.533
how did you carve your space?

334
00:16:39.990 --> 00:16:42.720
<v ->I think for me, a really fundamental piece has been</v>

335
00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.190
trying to make space for people around me to learn,

336
00:16:47.190 --> 00:16:50.760
because I think something I've definitely experienced

337
00:16:50.760 --> 00:16:53.910
in various different places I've worked is that

338
00:16:53.910 --> 00:16:56.280
I might be the first person someone's ever met

339
00:16:56.280 --> 00:16:58.890
who uses they/them pronouns or the first person

340
00:16:58.890 --> 00:17:01.770
who ever describes themselves as non-binary that they've

341
00:17:01.770 --> 00:17:03.542
interacted with,

342
00:17:03.542 --> 00:17:05.890
and I think the vast majority of

343
00:17:08.010 --> 00:17:11.370
middling to borderline negative experiences I've had

344
00:17:11.370 --> 00:17:15.420
have not been out of any sort of malice or opposition,

345
00:17:15.420 --> 00:17:19.440
it's truly just out of a lack of familiarity,

346
00:17:19.440 --> 00:17:23.970
and so I think trying to make space for questions

347
00:17:23.970 --> 00:17:28.740
and to give people space to be unsure about things

348
00:17:28.740 --> 00:17:32.760
and to learn so that they can become better allies

349
00:17:32.760 --> 00:17:34.860
and so that they can become more comfortable

350
00:17:34.860 --> 00:17:38.111
supporting people how they need to be supported,

351
00:17:38.111 --> 00:17:39.870
and I think that's taken a few different forms.

352
00:17:39.870 --> 00:17:41.850
Sometimes it's simple as

353
00:17:41.850 --> 00:17:45.600
developing close enough relationships with individuals

354
00:17:45.600 --> 00:17:48.270
that they feel comfortable asking me questions.

355
00:17:48.270 --> 00:17:51.660
Sometimes it's working with others in a department

356
00:17:51.660 --> 00:17:56.660
or in a community to develop formal trainings or workshops,

357
00:17:57.450 --> 00:18:00.353
but I think those are some really valuable ways

358
00:18:00.353 --> 00:18:02.820
that I feel like I've both been able to

359
00:18:02.820 --> 00:18:04.920
contribute positively to a space

360
00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.640
and then also by extension to build a community

361
00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:10.743
in which I'm more comfortable as well.

362
00:18:13.770 --> 00:18:14.970
<v ->Awesome, thank you.</v>

363
00:18:14.970 --> 00:18:17.880
Last but not least Leon, if you could please,

364
00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:20.943
how did you carve your own space in your career field?

365
00:18:22.410 --> 00:18:23.243
<v ->Thanks Mark.</v>

366
00:18:23.243 --> 00:18:24.913
I think I talked a little about this,

367
00:18:24.913 --> 00:18:26.760
but I think it would be remiss for me

368
00:18:26.760 --> 00:18:28.590
not to also quote Bell Hooks.

369
00:18:28.590 --> 00:18:31.200
I identify as queer and I love her words,

370
00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:34.290
speaking to queer not as being about who you have sex with,

371
00:18:34.290 --> 00:18:36.178
and that could be a dimension of it,

372
00:18:36.178 --> 00:18:38.478
but as queer being about the self that is at odds

373
00:18:38.478 --> 00:18:40.230
with everything around it and has to invent and create

374
00:18:40.230 --> 00:18:43.050
and find a place to speak and to thrive and to live,

375
00:18:43.050 --> 00:18:45.750
and I sense a lot of that into the different threads

376
00:18:45.750 --> 00:18:47.910
that everyone has brought up here, and especially for me,

377
00:18:47.910 --> 00:18:50.610
I think going through my undergrad in bioengineering

378
00:18:50.610 --> 00:18:51.960
and then diving into biomimicry,

379
00:18:51.960 --> 00:18:55.080
I always felt like I wasn't in a particular box

380
00:18:55.080 --> 00:18:57.510
in any kind of degree, in any kind of label,

381
00:18:57.510 --> 00:19:00.870
and what it was really about searching and figuring out

382
00:19:00.870 --> 00:19:04.590
how I wanna show myself in different spaces

383
00:19:04.590 --> 00:19:05.700
and who I wanna engage with

384
00:19:05.700 --> 00:19:08.310
and grow relations and connections with

385
00:19:08.310 --> 00:19:09.690
in the projects and works that I do.

386
00:19:09.690 --> 00:19:13.600
So I feel like a piece of me has always felt this draw

387
00:19:15.969 --> 00:19:18.990
to really learn by doing and learn

388
00:19:21.758 --> 00:19:23.460
through that inner journey.

389
00:19:23.460 --> 00:19:25.320
<v ->Great, thank you.</v>

390
00:19:25.320 --> 00:19:29.010
Now this next question I'd like to ask to Dylan.

391
00:19:29.010 --> 00:19:31.830
Can you talk about your experience with mentorship

392
00:19:31.830 --> 00:19:34.030
as you kind of advanced through your career?

393
00:19:35.760 --> 00:19:38.640
How do you maybe find a good mentor

394
00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:42.303
and how important was that for you in your career?

395
00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:46.530
<v ->Yeah, absolutely.</v>

396
00:19:46.530 --> 00:19:50.820
I think mentorship has been incredibly valuable for me

397
00:19:50.820 --> 00:19:54.270
and I think sometimes that's taken slightly different forms

398
00:19:54.270 --> 00:19:56.853
than I perhaps expected at the beginning.

399
00:19:57.690 --> 00:20:00.450
My closest mentors haven't always been,

400
00:20:00.450 --> 00:20:04.260
haven't often been my direct supervisors,

401
00:20:04.260 --> 00:20:08.340
but finding more of a network and finding

402
00:20:08.340 --> 00:20:11.130
kind of the people around in a space

403
00:20:11.130 --> 00:20:15.300
who can be someone to lean on, someone who has

404
00:20:15.300 --> 00:20:18.000
so much valuable wisdom to share,

405
00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:20.790
I think has been incredibly valuable for me,

406
00:20:20.790 --> 00:20:22.680
both in finding my own place

407
00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:25.893
and in developing my confidence as I move forward,

408
00:20:27.090 --> 00:20:31.590
and I think a lot of that has come from organic interactions

409
00:20:31.590 --> 00:20:33.810
with people where

410
00:20:33.810 --> 00:20:36.250
I interact with someone enough times that

411
00:20:38.190 --> 00:20:40.080
we develop a relationship like that

412
00:20:40.080 --> 00:20:42.090
and I feel comfortable with them,

413
00:20:42.090 --> 00:20:43.710
they feel comfortable with me,

414
00:20:43.710 --> 00:20:47.910
and I think learning to be open as well

415
00:20:47.910 --> 00:20:50.760
has been incredibly valuable and trying

416
00:20:50.760 --> 00:20:54.630
to share the things I'm comfortable sharing

417
00:20:54.630 --> 00:20:57.750
have made it really possible to experience

418
00:20:57.750 --> 00:21:01.020
some very valuable mentoring from folks around me,

419
00:21:01.020 --> 00:21:05.130
but I think looking beyond my immediate circle,

420
00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:07.930
I think has been the most important part of that for me.

421
00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:10.810
<v ->Wow, thank you.</v>

422
00:21:12.183 --> 00:21:13.350
Just a quick reminder,

423
00:21:13.350 --> 00:21:16.170
if any of the panelists would like to add anything

424
00:21:16.170 --> 00:21:18.320
to an answer, please just jump right on in.

425
00:21:19.830 --> 00:21:23.820
But this next question I will pose to whoever wishes

426
00:21:23.820 --> 00:21:26.853
to answer it first or however many of you want to answer it.

427
00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:31.401
This question, I'll just read it to you verbatim.

428
00:21:31.401 --> 00:21:32.250
I'd love to point out the statement,

429
00:21:32.250 --> 00:21:35.820
carving out a space can be potentially competitive language.

430
00:21:35.820 --> 00:21:37.470
I'd love to hear

431
00:21:37.470 --> 00:21:42.470
about how they, you all, created collaborative spaces

432
00:21:42.660 --> 00:21:44.400
for themselves and others or

433
00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:47.370
how you collaborated to create spaces

434
00:21:47.370 --> 00:21:49.233
for yourselves and others.

435
00:21:50.970 --> 00:21:52.530
<v ->Yeah, I can start us off.</v>

436
00:21:52.530 --> 00:21:55.020
First off, thank you, John for bringing up this question

437
00:21:55.020 --> 00:21:56.310
and speaking about language,

438
00:21:56.310 --> 00:21:59.370
'cause I feel like we always have to be mindful

439
00:21:59.370 --> 00:22:02.220
of how language gets co-opted or gets used and utilized,

440
00:22:02.220 --> 00:22:04.290
especially when in American culture

441
00:22:04.290 --> 00:22:06.630
it's often very violent language,

442
00:22:06.630 --> 00:22:08.553
and so I appreciate you noting this.

443
00:22:09.464 --> 00:22:11.880
I will say coming from a nature and inspired background,

444
00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:15.556
I feel like nature definitely has both red tooth and claw

445
00:22:15.556 --> 00:22:17.550
as well as the collaborative space, and so

446
00:22:17.550 --> 00:22:19.854
there are just points where you kind of have

447
00:22:19.854 --> 00:22:22.920
to put up a defense and also would admit this,

448
00:22:22.920 --> 00:22:26.150
not to mention that pride is what it is today

449
00:22:26.150 --> 00:22:29.160
because Marsha P. Johnson threw a brick, and so

450
00:22:29.160 --> 00:22:31.110
I would also love to call in some words

451
00:22:31.110 --> 00:22:35.940
from one of my favorite queer Vietnamese poets,

452
00:22:35.940 --> 00:22:38.497
Ocean Vuong who said,

453
00:22:38.497 --> 00:22:42.030
"We often tell our students future's in your hands,

454
00:22:42.030 --> 00:22:44.430
but I think the future's actually in your mouth.

455
00:22:44.430 --> 00:22:46.170
You have to articulate the world

456
00:22:46.170 --> 00:22:47.817
that you wanna live in first,"

457
00:22:48.696 --> 00:22:50.730
and so we're often participants in language

458
00:22:50.730 --> 00:22:53.040
and shaping language and how we use it,

459
00:22:53.040 --> 00:22:55.500
just like how queer has been co-opted

460
00:22:55.500 --> 00:22:58.110
and utilized very different contexts,

461
00:22:58.110 --> 00:23:00.540
so just wanted to say, appreciate the language

462
00:23:00.540 --> 00:23:02.100
and a note of language, it's always something

463
00:23:02.100 --> 00:23:04.530
to consider and think about,

464
00:23:04.530 --> 00:23:05.741
especially when we talk about

465
00:23:05.741 --> 00:23:08.610
we refer to natural world as like resources,

466
00:23:08.610 --> 00:23:10.800
as different pronouns, as it,

467
00:23:10.800 --> 00:23:12.750
and why we might wanna move beyond that

468
00:23:12.750 --> 00:23:14.500
and why we recognize pronouns here.

469
00:23:18.360 --> 00:23:20.010
<v ->I can add to that I think.</v>

470
00:23:20.010 --> 00:23:21.240
Oh Matt, go ahead.

471
00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:23.048
<v ->No, go ahead Liz.</v>

472
00:23:23.048 --> 00:23:25.020
<v ->I mean, I don't know that I can say it</v>

473
00:23:25.020 --> 00:23:27.239
any better than Leon just said it, but

474
00:23:27.239 --> 00:23:29.970
I do truly think that it's both and situation here

475
00:23:29.970 --> 00:23:32.740
where there absolutely are times where as

476
00:23:33.631 --> 00:23:34.620
a person working in ocean science

477
00:23:34.620 --> 00:23:37.260
I have truly had to carve out space for myself and others

478
00:23:37.260 --> 00:23:39.540
because that space did not exist,

479
00:23:39.540 --> 00:23:40.530
whether it's making sure that

480
00:23:40.530 --> 00:23:43.110
there's a bathroom people can use safely

481
00:23:43.110 --> 00:23:47.215
or making sure that people can bunk safely on a boat.

482
00:23:47.215 --> 00:23:48.940
Like that's carving out space, but

483
00:23:50.310 --> 00:23:51.810
at the other end of the spectrum,

484
00:23:51.810 --> 00:23:53.910
there's always opportunities to invite people

485
00:23:53.910 --> 00:23:56.910
into the conversation and to ask how they can support

486
00:23:56.910 --> 00:23:58.890
and how they would like to support,

487
00:23:58.890 --> 00:24:01.570
so I think I also really appreciate

488
00:24:05.408 --> 00:24:08.790
the calling in of different ways of framing the language,

489
00:24:08.790 --> 00:24:11.373
and I do truly think that it's a both and.

490
00:24:13.260 --> 00:24:15.510
<v ->Yeah, Liz, I think you're right,</v>

491
00:24:15.510 --> 00:24:18.240
and Leon as well, but I'll add too.

492
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:19.630
I've really learned that

493
00:24:23.263 --> 00:24:25.920
if you give people a chance, they're gonna surprise you,

494
00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:28.950
and sometimes it's really important for you

495
00:24:28.950 --> 00:24:33.950
to push the comfort level, to help them learn

496
00:24:34.320 --> 00:24:38.470
and to grow, and the other thing is

497
00:24:39.540 --> 00:24:42.623
even though there's a role that we all play

498
00:24:42.623 --> 00:24:43.456
in helping people grow,

499
00:24:43.456 --> 00:24:47.370
I'm also learning that there's a incredible role

500
00:24:47.370 --> 00:24:51.750
for me to grow just in spending the time that I have

501
00:24:51.750 --> 00:24:54.603
in NOAA Pride and working on that committee.

502
00:24:55.440 --> 00:24:57.420
I have learned an awful lot,

503
00:24:57.420 --> 00:24:59.520
even though I've been at this a long time.

504
00:25:00.570 --> 00:25:04.590
I don't fully understand and appreciate all the challenges

505
00:25:04.590 --> 00:25:06.570
that young people have today.

506
00:25:06.570 --> 00:25:08.933
We always thought that we had it so much harder,

507
00:25:10.197 --> 00:25:12.610
'cause we didn't have anything, but

508
00:25:13.620 --> 00:25:16.394
Liz and I have talked about this kind of over the years,

509
00:25:16.394 --> 00:25:17.460
how things are just very different,

510
00:25:17.460 --> 00:25:20.670
but there's a great opportunity to give people a chance

511
00:25:20.670 --> 00:25:21.770
and to learn yourself.

512
00:25:25.470 --> 00:25:28.080
<v ->Fantastic, love this dialogue you guys.</v>

513
00:25:28.080 --> 00:25:30.783
Next question I will pose to Matt.

514
00:25:32.550 --> 00:25:37.140
What has been or has there been your greatest challenge

515
00:25:37.140 --> 00:25:40.023
in being out in the federal government work environment?

516
00:25:43.650 --> 00:25:45.363
<v ->I've just been incredibly lucky.</v>

517
00:25:49.285 --> 00:25:50.118
I remember

518
00:25:51.510 --> 00:25:53.973
on the hill, no challenges, in fact,

519
00:25:55.498 --> 00:25:57.053
incredible support coming to NOAA.

520
00:25:58.539 --> 00:25:59.372
During the Clinton administration

521
00:25:59.372 --> 00:26:02.130
where there were out politicals for the first time

522
00:26:02.130 --> 00:26:04.560
with photos of their spouses on their desk,

523
00:26:04.560 --> 00:26:06.990
and I was working downtown

524
00:26:06.990 --> 00:26:08.790
in NOAA Comms,

525
00:26:08.790 --> 00:26:12.026
just have always been very, very fortunate.

526
00:26:12.026 --> 00:26:13.146
So sorry, Mark,

527
00:26:13.146 --> 00:26:16.902
I don't have a experience for you.

528
00:26:16.902 --> 00:26:19.223
<v ->That's okay, I don't really have one either,</v>

529
00:26:19.223 --> 00:26:20.670
so it's a good thing, that's a good answer,

530
00:26:20.670 --> 00:26:22.070
that's what we want to hear.

531
00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:28.400
But I would like to ask Matt and Liz another question

532
00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:30.720
and you guys can take it in that order,

533
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.693
but do you have any advice for students?

534
00:26:36.570 --> 00:26:37.503
<v ->Yes,</v>

535
00:26:38.790 --> 00:26:40.890
and you've covered it a lot,

536
00:26:40.890 --> 00:26:43.650
but it's really about mentorship, it's about connections,

537
00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:46.140
it's about learning from others,

538
00:26:46.140 --> 00:26:47.560
from their experiences

539
00:26:49.890 --> 00:26:53.520
and connections in any career

540
00:26:53.520 --> 00:26:56.130
are incredibly valuable,

541
00:26:56.130 --> 00:27:00.390
so don't turn down any opportunity for networking,

542
00:27:00.390 --> 00:27:03.520
for getting to know people, and to learn

543
00:27:04.380 --> 00:27:06.680
about some of the things they've gone through.

544
00:27:10.798 --> 00:27:15.300
<v ->I can add that your career doesn't have to be one thing,</v>

545
00:27:15.300 --> 00:27:18.600
whether it's one thing for the entire career

546
00:27:18.600 --> 00:27:20.820
or at any given time.

547
00:27:20.820 --> 00:27:23.168
Like I said when I introduced myself,

548
00:27:23.168 --> 00:27:24.165
I wear a lot of hats.

549
00:27:24.165 --> 00:27:27.270
I have a creative career, I have a more normal career,

550
00:27:29.520 --> 00:27:31.500
but even that more normal career

551
00:27:31.500 --> 00:27:33.183
I didn't ever plan to do.

552
00:27:34.229 --> 00:27:36.824
I had studied anthropology and creative writing.

553
00:27:36.824 --> 00:27:38.910
I didn't know I was gonna go into science communication,

554
00:27:38.910 --> 00:27:40.173
I kind of fell into it,

555
00:27:41.008 --> 00:27:44.610
and my partner too has just done a career change,

556
00:27:44.610 --> 00:27:48.667
sort of midlife switching from design to engineering,

557
00:27:48.667 --> 00:27:51.573
and so I think there's this pressure on students,

558
00:27:54.149 --> 00:27:56.165
and I think sort of a double pressure

559
00:27:56.165 --> 00:27:58.965
on queer students to both know what they're gonna do

560
00:27:58.965 --> 00:28:01.313
in their career and also know who they are immediately,

561
00:28:02.288 --> 00:28:05.910
and those can absolutely change multiple times

562
00:28:05.910 --> 00:28:06.960
throughout your life,

563
00:28:07.923 --> 00:28:09.835
and you can be doing multiple things at once

564
00:28:09.835 --> 00:28:11.873
and that's okay, and it's cool to do, I think.

565
00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:17.133
<v ->Awesome, all right.</v>

566
00:28:18.309 --> 00:28:20.971
So this is another question that I would like to pose

567
00:28:20.971 --> 00:28:21.968
to the entire group,

568
00:28:21.968 --> 00:28:24.448
and I'd like to start with Dylan here with this one,

569
00:28:24.448 --> 00:28:26.698
but what is your favorite self-care activity?

570
00:28:30.702 --> 00:28:32.123
<v ->Ooh, that's a good question.</v>

571
00:28:33.360 --> 00:28:35.163
I think to be honest for me,

572
00:28:36.005 --> 00:28:39.190
it's probably just being outside and

573
00:28:40.500 --> 00:28:43.410
I study the organisms I study scientifically,

574
00:28:43.410 --> 00:28:48.183
but I really love just about any living organism out there,

575
00:28:49.320 --> 00:28:52.320
and I think going outside, looking at the plants,

576
00:28:52.320 --> 00:28:54.570
looking for birds, looking for insects

577
00:28:54.570 --> 00:28:57.300
is something that can really kind of

578
00:28:57.300 --> 00:29:02.100
bring me back into myself and give me space to process

579
00:29:02.100 --> 00:29:04.230
anything and things like that, so I think

580
00:29:04.230 --> 00:29:06.510
my greatest self care activity

581
00:29:06.510 --> 00:29:09.183
is probably just going outside.

582
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:12.540
<v ->Ah, I feel that.</v>

583
00:29:12.540 --> 00:29:14.413
Leon, can you go next?

584
00:29:14.413 --> 00:29:16.403
What's your favorite self-care activity?

585
00:29:17.310 --> 00:29:20.160
<v ->Yeah, I have to say mine is definitely rooted</v>

586
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:21.930
in music and good vibrations.

587
00:29:21.930 --> 00:29:26.241
I play the ukulele and the piano, enjoy singing,

588
00:29:26.241 --> 00:29:28.041
and as much of that I also feel like

589
00:29:29.220 --> 00:29:31.500
this is a wonderful time to also know that like self care,

590
00:29:31.500 --> 00:29:33.570
there's this like myth of the self.

591
00:29:33.570 --> 00:29:36.480
I think Adrian Marie Brown speaks to this where

592
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:40.950
when we think about caring is also caring in community

593
00:29:40.950 --> 00:29:44.520
and relation, cause we're never by ourselves or alone,

594
00:29:44.520 --> 00:29:49.520
and so taking care and finding ways to care in community

595
00:29:50.550 --> 00:29:53.135
and with each other is going to be

596
00:29:53.135 --> 00:29:54.714
just as important as self care,

597
00:29:54.714 --> 00:29:55.793
just wanted to drop that note.

598
00:30:00.330 --> 00:30:02.553
<v ->Great, Liz, can you go next?</v>

599
00:30:05.303 --> 00:30:06.136
<v ->I'm with Dylan,</v>

600
00:30:06.136 --> 00:30:10.560
being outside, being anywhere that I can remember to breathe

601
00:30:10.560 --> 00:30:15.210
and walk with my dog or look into a tide pool.

602
00:30:15.210 --> 00:30:16.980
That's definitely self care for me.

603
00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:18.783
Also reading, I love books.

604
00:30:25.191 --> 00:30:26.091
<v ->Thank you, Matt.</v>

605
00:30:27.828 --> 00:30:30.720
<v ->Yeah, hard to get outside sometimes in DC,</v>

606
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.850
but I do enjoy that.

607
00:30:32.850 --> 00:30:36.150
I think for me, it's really my morning routine,

608
00:30:36.150 --> 00:30:38.793
going to the gym, working out, stretching, yoga,

609
00:30:39.630 --> 00:30:42.363
that really centers me and gets me ready for the day.

610
00:30:45.900 --> 00:30:49.053
<v ->Awesome, good recommendations, love it.</v>

611
00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:53.633
This question I think is an important question

612
00:30:53.633 --> 00:30:57.619
and I'd like to pose it to Leon and Liz,

613
00:30:57.619 --> 00:31:01.650
but how did y'all decide when you were comfortable enough

614
00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:05.130
to be like out and open in a work environment?

615
00:31:05.130 --> 00:31:08.610
I'm not sure how to tell if a workplace is safe or not

616
00:31:08.610 --> 00:31:09.723
and it can be scary.

617
00:31:15.060 --> 00:31:17.789
<v ->Leon, do you wanna go first or do you want me to?</v>

618
00:31:17.789 --> 00:31:18.706
<v ->Go ahead.</v>

619
00:31:19.652 --> 00:31:22.560
<v ->Okay, so I will preface this by saying</v>

620
00:31:22.560 --> 00:31:24.330
that I think I have a lot of privilege.

621
00:31:24.330 --> 00:31:26.820
I am a cis white woman

622
00:31:26.820 --> 00:31:30.360
and so there's not a whole lot of risk for me

623
00:31:30.360 --> 00:31:33.300
in terms of being out in the workplace,

624
00:31:33.300 --> 00:31:36.900
and so being the stubborn person that I am,

625
00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:39.990
I just kind of assume until proven otherwise,

626
00:31:39.990 --> 00:31:44.340
and so far I have not had terrible experiences with that,

627
00:31:44.340 --> 00:31:47.130
and I also find that it's important for me to do that

628
00:31:47.130 --> 00:31:49.470
because there are other people who are not

629
00:31:49.470 --> 00:31:51.750
as safe in that situation,

630
00:31:51.750 --> 00:31:54.660
but I will say that like visibility is important,

631
00:31:54.660 --> 00:31:58.020
so being able to see other people who are queer

632
00:31:58.020 --> 00:31:59.793
is a good way to tell.

633
00:32:01.710 --> 00:32:03.450
Sometimes a pride flag can help,

634
00:32:03.450 --> 00:32:05.040
but also there are a lot of people

635
00:32:05.040 --> 00:32:08.190
who will put a pride flag up and not totally be

636
00:32:08.190 --> 00:32:10.410
familiar with LGBTQ issues.

637
00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:11.243
But for me,

638
00:32:12.731 --> 00:32:16.783
I kind of have the come out first, worry later perspective.

639
00:32:19.966 --> 00:32:20.799
<v ->I love that.</v>

640
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:22.630
Also really appreciate you naming your privilege.

641
00:32:22.630 --> 00:32:23.463
I mean, same here.

642
00:32:23.463 --> 00:32:24.690
I mean, I'm male presenting.

643
00:32:24.690 --> 00:32:27.210
I would say for me, when I think about this,

644
00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:28.770
there's so many levels to it, right?

645
00:32:28.770 --> 00:32:30.510
Both the personal journey,

646
00:32:30.510 --> 00:32:32.580
the interpersonal that you can have at work,

647
00:32:32.580 --> 00:32:34.920
your institution, and how you feel about it,

648
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:36.930
and of course the systemic like situation

649
00:32:36.930 --> 00:32:41.930
that we have around LGBTQ+, and so I would definitely say,

650
00:32:43.740 --> 00:32:45.990
for me, it wasn't just about coming out.

651
00:32:45.990 --> 00:32:48.488
There's also this piece of level language of like

652
00:32:48.488 --> 00:32:49.920
letting people in or letting someone in,

653
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.320
and so find the people who are your allies,

654
00:32:52.320 --> 00:32:55.320
who are your accomplices or co-conspirators,

655
00:32:55.320 --> 00:32:57.420
whatever that might be in any workplace,

656
00:32:57.420 --> 00:33:01.800
whether they do have policies that are more equitable

657
00:33:01.800 --> 00:33:04.740
and justice and liberation focused.

658
00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:07.500
That's great, but oftentimes there isn't

659
00:33:07.500 --> 00:33:10.590
both the power and the will to make those changes,

660
00:33:10.590 --> 00:33:14.009
and sometimes it will be up to us to create that space,

661
00:33:14.009 --> 00:33:14.842
even if it is private space,

662
00:33:14.842 --> 00:33:18.254
and so I encourage you to consider and find

663
00:33:18.254 --> 00:33:19.650
what that looks like for you.

664
00:33:19.650 --> 00:33:21.870
For me, I've been lucky in the actual workplaces

665
00:33:21.870 --> 00:33:25.410
that I've been at generally has been much more open

666
00:33:25.410 --> 00:33:30.120
or I found public queers that identify and share space with,

667
00:33:30.120 --> 00:33:33.813
so that's gonna be a very individual journey for everyone.

668
00:33:37.590 --> 00:33:38.423
<v ->Awesome, thank you.</v>

669
00:33:38.423 --> 00:33:41.850
So this question is very similar to the previous one,

670
00:33:41.850 --> 00:33:44.193
but the second part is I think important,

671
00:33:45.157 --> 00:33:47.190
and this is for anybody to answer.

672
00:33:47.190 --> 00:33:49.980
When you were younger, how did you recognize allies?

673
00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:53.520
What support did you need or wish you had?

674
00:33:53.520 --> 00:33:56.040
Asking this question as a coworker,

675
00:33:56.040 --> 00:33:57.390
but also as a parent of young kids

676
00:33:57.390 --> 00:33:59.043
aiming to raise good humans.

677
00:34:00.510 --> 00:34:02.035
<v ->Well,</v>

678
00:34:02.035 --> 00:34:04.380
I'll just say I didn't.

679
00:34:04.380 --> 00:34:06.420
I grew up in rural Arizona,

680
00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:10.833
never heard the word gay until I was in college.

681
00:34:13.320 --> 00:34:16.320
There was one mention that I can remember

682
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.430
in my entire childhood of someone who was gay,

683
00:34:20.430 --> 00:34:22.078
but they didn't call them that,

684
00:34:22.078 --> 00:34:25.620
and they called them queer, and that was it,

685
00:34:25.620 --> 00:34:27.750
and there was zero,

686
00:34:27.750 --> 00:34:30.780
and going back to my 30-year high school reunion

687
00:34:30.780 --> 00:34:31.800
and talking to all my friends

688
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.623
who all turned out to be also gay,

689
00:34:36.090 --> 00:34:38.910
we were just astonished that none of us discussed it

690
00:34:38.910 --> 00:34:42.180
or thought about it or it was never something

691
00:34:42.180 --> 00:34:43.593
to even discuss.

692
00:34:50.610 --> 00:34:52.680
<v ->Great, this is another question</v>

693
00:34:52.680 --> 00:34:55.920
that I personally think is very important

694
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.373
and I would like to pose to all of you once again,

695
00:35:00.180 --> 00:35:02.010
and this might not be an easy question to answer,

696
00:35:02.010 --> 00:35:05.475
but how do you effectively draw upon your network

697
00:35:05.475 --> 00:35:07.260
to create opportunities without saying

698
00:35:07.260 --> 00:35:10.383
I need a job or imposing on that relationship?

699
00:35:11.970 --> 00:35:13.070
It's a tough question.

700
00:35:16.388 --> 00:35:17.550
<v ->I can kick us off.</v>

701
00:35:17.550 --> 00:35:19.770
Yeah, that's always a challenge because

702
00:35:19.770 --> 00:35:24.570
it can be immediately seen as unwelcome, but honestly,

703
00:35:24.570 --> 00:35:28.320
the way that I've approached it is not coming with an ask,

704
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.390
but often with the give and because all of us

705
00:35:30.390 --> 00:35:31.920
have something to provide,

706
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.920
it's very approachable to come and ask, like,

707
00:35:37.260 --> 00:35:39.105
what do you need?
What are you working on?

708
00:35:39.105 --> 00:35:39.938
What are you passionate about?

709
00:35:39.938 --> 00:35:40.950
How can I support you?

710
00:35:40.950 --> 00:35:43.740
How can the skills and what I bring to the table

711
00:35:43.740 --> 00:35:47.610
be of support of what you are manifesting in the world?

712
00:35:47.610 --> 00:35:50.520
And often that's how connections and networking

713
00:35:50.520 --> 00:35:54.660
and true partnerships begin is a question of

714
00:35:54.660 --> 00:35:56.070
what can I do for you?

715
00:35:56.070 --> 00:35:58.380
And then that's what the reciprocity begins,

716
00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:01.950
and so there is something about that as an economy,

717
00:36:01.950 --> 00:36:05.340
but it definitely inteling yourself into

718
00:36:05.340 --> 00:36:08.310
the unpaid labor or blood, sweat, and tears side of this,

719
00:36:08.310 --> 00:36:10.233
so cautionary tale.

720
00:36:17.310 --> 00:36:18.143
<v ->Great.</v>

721
00:36:20.220 --> 00:36:22.680
Another question about allies.

722
00:36:22.680 --> 00:36:24.480
Have you had an experience with someone

723
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:27.690
who has explicitly acted as your ally?

724
00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:29.455
How did it support you?

725
00:36:29.455 --> 00:36:30.288
How did that go?

726
00:36:30.288 --> 00:36:31.350
Does any of you guys have any?

727
00:36:34.056 --> 00:36:36.120
I'm trying to think of the opposite of the word

728
00:36:36.120 --> 00:36:39.063
horror stories of like a good ally.

729
00:36:41.640 --> 00:36:42.723
<v ->Absolutely.</v>

730
00:36:44.430 --> 00:36:47.250
There are multiple people who immediately come to mind

731
00:36:47.250 --> 00:36:48.450
reading that question.

732
00:36:48.450 --> 00:36:52.053
Oh, my office light just turned off, motion activated.

733
00:36:53.370 --> 00:36:54.220
I think

734
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.010
some of the greatest things

735
00:36:59.010 --> 00:37:02.400
that the allies I've had in workspaces have done

736
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:04.053
have been really simple things,

737
00:37:05.130 --> 00:37:08.400
and a lot of times the most important thing is

738
00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.580
for me to feel and to be very, very certain

739
00:37:11.580 --> 00:37:14.283
that there is someone or some people in my corner,

740
00:37:15.390 --> 00:37:17.550
there are questions I'm comfortable asking,

741
00:37:17.550 --> 00:37:19.380
and issues I'm comfortable raising

742
00:37:19.380 --> 00:37:22.140
when I know that there would be someone there

743
00:37:22.140 --> 00:37:24.510
to back me up if I needed it,

744
00:37:24.510 --> 00:37:29.430
and I think making it clear that someone supports me

745
00:37:29.430 --> 00:37:32.670
and understands my frustrations with things

746
00:37:32.670 --> 00:37:36.630
or understands the things that I need to feel supported

747
00:37:36.630 --> 00:37:39.060
can be incredibly valuable,

748
00:37:39.060 --> 00:37:41.700
and a lot of times that's as simple as

749
00:37:41.700 --> 00:37:45.030
describing some sort of experience I've had

750
00:37:45.030 --> 00:37:48.330
and someone reacting to it in such a way

751
00:37:48.330 --> 00:37:50.943
that I can feel that they're feeling it with me.

752
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.080
Sometimes it's as simple as someone

753
00:37:55.080 --> 00:37:57.780
asking if a new building renovation

754
00:37:57.780 --> 00:38:01.050
will have gender neutral restrooms or something like that,

755
00:38:01.050 --> 00:38:03.900
and those are all things I'm capable of doing myself,

756
00:38:03.900 --> 00:38:05.910
but it's really nice to feel like

757
00:38:05.910 --> 00:38:07.380
I'm not the only person in the room

758
00:38:07.380 --> 00:38:09.240
thinking about those things,

759
00:38:09.240 --> 00:38:10.740
and I think a lot of times

760
00:38:10.740 --> 00:38:13.920
I have coworkers who will correct other people

761
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.980
on my pronouns, and again,

762
00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:20.250
I'm capable of doing that myself, but it means a lot,

763
00:38:20.250 --> 00:38:23.160
and it makes a big difference in how supported I feel

764
00:38:23.160 --> 00:38:26.190
to feel that people around me would

765
00:38:26.190 --> 00:38:28.110
are comfortable speaking up for me

766
00:38:28.110 --> 00:38:30.963
and are thinking about those things as well as I am.

767
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.820
<v ->So Dylan, I'm glad you brought up that last point</v>

768
00:38:38.820 --> 00:38:40.443
about your pronouns.

769
00:38:41.940 --> 00:38:44.310
Can you kind of talk a little bit more about

770
00:38:44.310 --> 00:38:46.230
when you started feel more comfortable

771
00:38:46.230 --> 00:38:50.583
using your pronouns in like a professional setting?

772
00:38:52.620 --> 00:38:53.970
<v ->Yeah, definitely.</v>

773
00:38:53.970 --> 00:38:58.440
So I've been using they/them pronouns in certain contexts

774
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:02.880
for probably five or six-ish years now.

775
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:05.070
I've been using them in professional contexts

776
00:39:05.070 --> 00:39:07.680
for probably about three or four,

777
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:10.860
and I think one of the big things,

778
00:39:10.860 --> 00:39:13.080
kind of going back to what Leon was saying earlier

779
00:39:13.080 --> 00:39:16.800
about coming out professionally and how important it is

780
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:19.440
to find your people to start with,

781
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.380
I think one thing that made a big difference for me was

782
00:39:22.380 --> 00:39:24.570
having come out to certain people

783
00:39:24.570 --> 00:39:27.030
in a workspace ahead of time,

784
00:39:27.030 --> 00:39:28.140
and maybe it wasn't,

785
00:39:28.140 --> 00:39:30.030
maybe they knew I used they/them pronouns,

786
00:39:30.030 --> 00:39:32.310
but wasn't using them broadly,

787
00:39:32.310 --> 00:39:35.310
and knowing that there were people similar to

788
00:39:35.310 --> 00:39:36.143
what I was saying before,

789
00:39:36.143 --> 00:39:38.640
knowing that there were people in my corner,

790
00:39:38.640 --> 00:39:41.844
I think made it feel so much more doable,

791
00:39:41.844 --> 00:39:43.683
and I think for me,

792
00:39:44.640 --> 00:39:48.030
I've had a mixed bag of experiences using they/them pronouns

793
00:39:48.030 --> 00:39:51.540
in science and the world of science,

794
00:39:51.540 --> 00:39:54.240
but I think it matters a lot to me

795
00:39:54.240 --> 00:39:59.240
because those pronouns feel like they capture more of myself

796
00:40:00.600 --> 00:40:03.360
than using she/her or he/him pronouns would.

797
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:05.940
I'm not a woman, I am also not a man,

798
00:40:05.940 --> 00:40:10.780
and going by they/them pronouns gives people around me

799
00:40:11.790 --> 00:40:14.460
a more true perspective of who I am

800
00:40:14.460 --> 00:40:18.603
and kind of guides them to a better understanding of myself,

801
00:40:19.560 --> 00:40:23.190
and sometimes people have objections,

802
00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:26.550
sometimes it takes people a while to get used to

803
00:40:26.550 --> 00:40:28.740
using different pronouns, and

804
00:40:28.740 --> 00:40:31.980
I'm never gonna hold a perpetual grudge against someone

805
00:40:31.980 --> 00:40:34.680
because they make a mistake a few times,

806
00:40:34.680 --> 00:40:38.400
but it really means a lot when people do work

807
00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.100
to get used to them and to

808
00:40:41.100 --> 00:40:43.650
address me how I'm most comfortable being addressed,

809
00:40:43.650 --> 00:40:46.530
and overall I've had very positive experiences,

810
00:40:46.530 --> 00:40:48.413
which I'm really, really grateful for.

811
00:40:53.018 --> 00:40:55.170
<v ->And I would love to just jump in</v>

812
00:40:55.170 --> 00:40:57.180
with like a follow up for Liz,

813
00:40:57.180 --> 00:41:00.060
'cause I'd really like to hear the question

814
00:41:00.060 --> 00:41:00.893
we originally got,

815
00:41:00.893 --> 00:41:03.402
I think I would like to hear a little bit from like

816
00:41:03.402 --> 00:41:07.920
cisgender perspective on sort of how pronoun normalization

817
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:09.963
has happened, if that makes sense,

818
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:14.800
like slapping pronouns on everything and yeah,

819
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.259
making the conversation where yeah.

820
00:41:17.259 --> 00:41:19.890
<v ->Yeah, I mean like, so I am, I'm cis.</v>

821
00:41:19.890 --> 00:41:23.423
I'm one of those people who you look at me,

822
00:41:23.423 --> 00:41:25.200
you probably guess my pronouns correctly.

823
00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:27.423
I also have a traditionally feminine name.

824
00:41:28.710 --> 00:41:30.570
It's kind of a given,

825
00:41:30.570 --> 00:41:32.100
but I still, I put my pronouns,

826
00:41:32.100 --> 00:41:33.450
they're in my email signature.

827
00:41:33.450 --> 00:41:37.650
They're in my, well, usually Zoom for me,

828
00:41:37.650 --> 00:41:39.840
but my GoToWebinar name,

829
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.690
sort of where wherever I would put my name

830
00:41:42.690 --> 00:41:45.840
when I'm working with people, I would put my pronouns there

831
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:49.410
and I don't do it to like get a cookie or anything,

832
00:41:49.410 --> 00:41:52.620
I do it because it's a signal to people

833
00:41:52.620 --> 00:41:55.630
that pronouns do not necessarily match

834
00:41:57.732 --> 00:41:59.913
the gender you perceive a person having.

835
00:42:00.810 --> 00:42:03.900
It gives people sort of a moment of, oh right,

836
00:42:03.900 --> 00:42:05.430
I should think about that,

837
00:42:05.430 --> 00:42:06.390
and like it says,

838
00:42:06.390 --> 00:42:09.530
pronoun is as unique to a person as their name,

839
00:42:09.530 --> 00:42:14.530
and so it's part of a signal to other people who are cis,

840
00:42:14.790 --> 00:42:17.103
Hey, maybe think about it a little bit more,

841
00:42:18.191 --> 00:42:21.330
and it's also I hope a signal to people who are trans

842
00:42:21.330 --> 00:42:26.160
or non-binary that I will honor your pronouns too,

843
00:42:26.160 --> 00:42:29.250
and that I am a safe space to be yourself

844
00:42:29.250 --> 00:42:30.660
and share your pronouns,

845
00:42:30.660 --> 00:42:32.700
and I'm not necessarily going to ask for them

846
00:42:32.700 --> 00:42:34.890
because not everyone is comfortable sharing their pronouns,

847
00:42:34.890 --> 00:42:37.446
but if you wanna share your pronouns with me,

848
00:42:37.446 --> 00:42:38.279
I'm here for that.

849
00:42:40.050 --> 00:42:41.380
<v ->Yeah, I love that.</v>

850
00:42:41.380 --> 00:42:43.530
Love that idea of it being a signal

851
00:42:43.530 --> 00:42:47.081
and kind of a flashy sign, and I'd love to expand

852
00:42:47.081 --> 00:42:48.660
on my own pronouns for ki/kin,

853
00:42:48.660 --> 00:42:50.694
just to go a bit deeper on that,

854
00:42:50.694 --> 00:42:51.527
'cause it is another signal,

855
00:42:51.527 --> 00:42:52.360
and for me it's

856
00:42:53.460 --> 00:42:57.240
less about gender and actually more about referencing

857
00:42:57.240 --> 00:42:59.590
that we're also a part of a larger web of life.

858
00:43:00.570 --> 00:43:02.910
The reason why I use them is because

859
00:43:02.910 --> 00:43:04.714
it's also the way that

860
00:43:04.714 --> 00:43:07.140
I often like to refer to other beings,

861
00:43:07.140 --> 00:43:09.270
often more than human beings.

862
00:43:09.270 --> 00:43:12.670
We very quickly label plants, we label

863
00:43:14.928 --> 00:43:17.670
other animals as it very quickly,

864
00:43:17.670 --> 00:43:19.893
and it can be a very,

865
00:43:22.590 --> 00:43:26.790
very quick way to distance other beings, and in that case,

866
00:43:26.790 --> 00:43:31.320
utilize them as a resource or to not treat them

867
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.950
as the kin or the relations that they actually are,

868
00:43:34.950 --> 00:43:39.000
and so for me, that word has quickly become

869
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.807
part of my language, and as a reminder for me to use it,

870
00:43:42.807 --> 00:43:44.580
not just for myself, but all the other beings

871
00:43:44.580 --> 00:43:46.380
that I really appreciate in my life,

872
00:43:47.994 --> 00:43:50.437
and definitely check out the article from Bob Amal Kimer

873
00:43:50.437 --> 00:43:51.270
if you haven't read it.

874
00:43:51.270 --> 00:43:52.260
It'll give you a much deeper grounding

875
00:43:52.260 --> 00:43:56.670
of why this language was brought into existence,

876
00:43:56.670 --> 00:43:57.653
the way it is.

877
00:43:59.580 --> 00:44:02.490
<v ->I think we did share that article in the chat earlier,</v>

878
00:44:02.490 --> 00:44:04.050
so scroll back up and click on that

879
00:44:04.050 --> 00:44:06.480
if you have not done so yet,

880
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.330
and just a reminder, these are great questions,

881
00:44:09.330 --> 00:44:10.470
keep 'em coming.

882
00:44:10.470 --> 00:44:12.840
I do see that some of you have your hand raised

883
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.900
and we simply have too many participants right now

884
00:44:15.900 --> 00:44:17.760
for me to pull people off of mute,

885
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:19.350
so if you have a question,

886
00:44:19.350 --> 00:44:21.030
please put it into the question box

887
00:44:21.030 --> 00:44:22.770
on the right hand side of your screen

888
00:44:22.770 --> 00:44:24.333
in this cool toolbar thing.

889
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.290
What was I about to ask?

890
00:44:28.290 --> 00:44:29.845
Oh, right.

891
00:44:29.845 --> 00:44:33.520
So this is just a general question for anyone really, but

892
00:44:34.413 --> 00:44:36.360
do you guys have any advice for someone

893
00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:40.320
who's just entering the admittedly pretty scary

894
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:44.520
post undergrad STEM workforce world right now?

895
00:44:44.520 --> 00:44:45.990
What's the best plan of attack

896
00:44:45.990 --> 00:44:48.240
for someone who just got their bachelors

897
00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:50.043
and is looking to work?

898
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:54.483
<v ->I would say,</v>

899
00:44:55.590 --> 00:44:57.370
be open to trying

900
00:44:58.500 --> 00:45:01.440
positions, roles,

901
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.070
fields that might not be exactly what you think

902
00:45:05.070 --> 00:45:07.080
you see yourself doing in the long-term

903
00:45:07.080 --> 00:45:09.870
if you have a long-term in mind.

904
00:45:09.870 --> 00:45:13.380
I'm not sure I did immediately upon graduating,

905
00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:16.890
but I think there are so many different fields,

906
00:45:16.890 --> 00:45:19.710
different types of roles out there.

907
00:45:19.710 --> 00:45:21.270
Something I've found really valuable

908
00:45:21.270 --> 00:45:25.110
is actually saying yes to some opportunities,

909
00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:27.300
some possibilities that aren't

910
00:45:27.300 --> 00:45:30.870
what I'd immediately have thought of something for myself.

911
00:45:30.870 --> 00:45:32.940
I'm currently in a role where I'm doing

912
00:45:32.940 --> 00:45:34.950
a whole load more engineering work

913
00:45:34.950 --> 00:45:37.840
than I ever imagined I'd do, and

914
00:45:38.790 --> 00:45:40.410
it's been really, really interesting

915
00:45:40.410 --> 00:45:44.310
and it's been really, really enjoyable in many ways

916
00:45:44.310 --> 00:45:46.560
to think differently and to work on

917
00:45:46.560 --> 00:45:49.593
some different types of problems than I often do,

918
00:45:50.460 --> 00:45:55.020
and this isn't a position I thought I would've taken

919
00:45:55.020 --> 00:45:57.330
two years ago, three years ago,

920
00:45:57.330 --> 00:46:00.060
but it's definitely not one I regret now.

921
00:46:00.060 --> 00:46:02.190
So I think my biggest piece of advice would just be

922
00:46:02.190 --> 00:46:04.230
to be as open as you can

923
00:46:04.230 --> 00:46:06.603
to the different types of things out there.

924
00:46:08.340 --> 00:46:10.320
<v ->Can I add to that real quick?</v>

925
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:11.700
<v ->Please, please.</v>

926
00:46:11.700 --> 00:46:13.733
<v ->I think Dylan that's spot on,</v>

927
00:46:13.733 --> 00:46:16.800
and also I would say don't feel like you have to fill

928
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.360
every single job requirement

929
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:21.330
of whatever job you're applying for.

930
00:46:21.330 --> 00:46:23.130
Every once in a while, once in a blue moon,

931
00:46:23.130 --> 00:46:25.350
you will see a job listing and you'll be like, yes,

932
00:46:25.350 --> 00:46:27.180
I can do every single thing on that list,

933
00:46:27.180 --> 00:46:29.718
but most of the time it will be,

934
00:46:29.718 --> 00:46:30.780
I am very qualified for one or two

935
00:46:30.780 --> 00:46:32.220
out of the three things there.

936
00:46:32.220 --> 00:46:33.720
Apply anyway.

937
00:46:33.720 --> 00:46:35.520
There's very few people who will fit

938
00:46:35.520 --> 00:46:36.660
all three of those things

939
00:46:36.660 --> 00:46:39.843
and you'll probably do an amazing job at it anyway.

940
00:46:43.950 --> 00:46:45.750
<v ->I'm happy to add a bit more definitely</v>

941
00:46:45.750 --> 00:46:47.460
if there are places that you wanna work.

942
00:46:47.460 --> 00:46:49.170
I mean, ultimately I think

943
00:46:49.170 --> 00:46:51.330
what's more important is less about the organization,

944
00:46:51.330 --> 00:46:53.520
but finding the right people that you wanna work with,

945
00:46:53.520 --> 00:46:55.440
no matter what organization you're gonna be at,

946
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:58.278
there's gonna be people on both sides of that,

947
00:46:58.278 --> 00:47:01.110
and so I often encourage people to also just reach out

948
00:47:01.110 --> 00:47:03.540
and connect and hear more about someone's experience

949
00:47:03.540 --> 00:47:06.570
on their job, on their role in the organization.

950
00:47:06.570 --> 00:47:07.710
How does that actually feel?

951
00:47:07.710 --> 00:47:08.790
Especially in this context,

952
00:47:08.790 --> 00:47:12.000
if you're very keen and curious about how they handle

953
00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:17.000
LGBTQ intentions in actual practice, I would also mention,

954
00:47:19.170 --> 00:47:23.408
I think it's important to note like you are not your job,

955
00:47:23.408 --> 00:47:24.780
you are not your role,

956
00:47:24.780 --> 00:47:28.690
and so don't feel any amount

957
00:47:29.861 --> 00:47:33.137
of crisis from that.

958
00:47:33.137 --> 00:47:33.970
I think it's very easy to,

959
00:47:33.970 --> 00:47:36.015
especially in this day and age,

960
00:47:36.015 --> 00:47:38.423
and so I just wanna encourage people to keep on keeping on.

961
00:47:43.879 --> 00:47:44.712
<v ->Great answers.</v>

962
00:47:44.712 --> 00:47:48.063
Wish I had heard this a few years ago, but here we all are.

963
00:47:49.170 --> 00:47:51.630
So this is a really interesting question

964
00:47:51.630 --> 00:47:53.070
that I'm really glad came through the chat,

965
00:47:53.070 --> 00:47:54.520
so keep 'em coming everybody.

966
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:59.610
I have had negative experiences of revealing myself as queer

967
00:47:59.610 --> 00:48:02.433
due to the older generation believing it's still a slur.

968
00:48:03.559 --> 00:48:04.440
I did my best to educate,

969
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.833
but have the panelists had similar experiences?

970
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:12.960
<v ->Yeah, not exactly the same.</v>

971
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:14.355
Oh, do you wanna go?

972
00:48:14.355 --> 00:48:15.188
<v ->No go ahead Dylan.</v>

973
00:48:15.188 --> 00:48:17.940
<v ->Oh, I was gonna say not exactly the same</v>

974
00:48:17.940 --> 00:48:20.130
in the sense that it wasn't a negative reaction

975
00:48:20.130 --> 00:48:25.130
specifically to me, but there's a workshop I run

976
00:48:26.490 --> 00:48:30.000
and have run various times with various groups

977
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:34.110
just on general LGBTQ inclusivity, terminology,

978
00:48:34.110 --> 00:48:35.790
things like that,

979
00:48:35.790 --> 00:48:38.910
and we did get a question at one point

980
00:48:38.910 --> 00:48:40.500
asking about the word queer,

981
00:48:40.500 --> 00:48:44.640
because I think I'd used in a sentence, an example,

982
00:48:44.640 --> 00:48:47.010
just describing myself as queer

983
00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:49.750
and someone asked and said that

984
00:48:50.700 --> 00:48:52.620
they couldn't imagine ever using that word

985
00:48:52.620 --> 00:48:55.890
to describe someone because from their experiences,

986
00:48:55.890 --> 00:48:57.240
it was the kind of word

987
00:48:57.240 --> 00:49:00.810
you never said unless you really wanted to hurt someone.

988
00:49:00.810 --> 00:49:03.450
And I think we had a really interesting conversation

989
00:49:03.450 --> 00:49:04.930
with the group at that point

990
00:49:06.750 --> 00:49:09.900
similar to kind of how you said about educating, but

991
00:49:09.900 --> 00:49:13.230
we talked about it being a personal choice and

992
00:49:13.230 --> 00:49:14.940
maybe it isn't something you want to

993
00:49:14.940 --> 00:49:17.460
unilaterally apply to folks unless

994
00:49:17.460 --> 00:49:19.770
you know it's something they're comfortable with,

995
00:49:19.770 --> 00:49:20.880
but that at the same time,

996
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.887
if it's something that someone is most comfortable with,

997
00:49:24.887 --> 00:49:26.850
I prefer describing myself as queer

998
00:49:26.850 --> 00:49:29.013
to any other sexuality word,

999
00:49:30.330 --> 00:49:31.810
then it's respecting

1000
00:49:33.552 --> 00:49:36.600
someone's feeling and someone's choice to use it for them,

1001
00:49:36.600 --> 00:49:39.150
but I think it was definitely an interesting conversation

1002
00:49:39.150 --> 00:49:43.110
and a valuable conversation because it reminds everyone,

1003
00:49:43.110 --> 00:49:44.730
and I think it's important to be reminded

1004
00:49:44.730 --> 00:49:46.770
that people are coming from different places

1005
00:49:46.770 --> 00:49:48.990
and can have very different experiences

1006
00:49:48.990 --> 00:49:52.050
and different histories with the terminology we use.

1007
00:49:52.050 --> 00:49:54.030
But so that's definitely something

1008
00:49:54.030 --> 00:49:56.080
that's come up in my experiences as well.

1009
00:50:01.260 --> 00:50:02.550
<v ->Liz, do you have a follow up?</v>

1010
00:50:02.550 --> 00:50:03.420
<v ->Yeah, well, I mean,</v>

1011
00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:05.970
I feel like Matt and I had many conversations about this

1012
00:50:05.970 --> 00:50:09.030
when I was at sanctuaries, 'cause yeah.

1013
00:50:09.030 --> 00:50:11.580
I think there are so many,

1014
00:50:11.580 --> 00:50:13.110
there's a history there with that term,

1015
00:50:13.110 --> 00:50:17.070
and I personally use queer to describe myself because

1016
00:50:17.070 --> 00:50:18.990
like Dylan, I feel like it fits me better

1017
00:50:18.990 --> 00:50:20.253
than any other term,

1018
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.430
but I literally had a coworker when I mentioned,

1019
00:50:23.430 --> 00:50:25.080
when I describe myself as queer say,

1020
00:50:25.080 --> 00:50:26.580
oh Liz, you're not queer

1021
00:50:26.580 --> 00:50:28.980
because she thought I was insulting myself

1022
00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:32.216
or belittling myself, and I had to sort of stop and say,

1023
00:50:32.216 --> 00:50:35.340
no, no, no, this is exactly what I mean by queer,

1024
00:50:35.340 --> 00:50:38.160
but then you also have experiences like Matt was saying,

1025
00:50:38.160 --> 00:50:41.160
he grew up only hearing one person just

1026
00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:42.040
being mentioned

1027
00:50:43.170 --> 00:50:45.750
as gay and they were mentioned as queer as an insult,

1028
00:50:45.750 --> 00:50:49.170
and I think that history is really, really real,

1029
00:50:49.170 --> 00:50:51.960
and so those of us who do identify as queer

1030
00:50:51.960 --> 00:50:53.850
need to respect that and respect that

1031
00:50:53.850 --> 00:50:56.010
not everyone is gonna feel comfortable with that.

1032
00:50:56.010 --> 00:50:57.540
And then it goes both ways

1033
00:50:57.540 --> 00:51:00.000
and people who are uncomfortable with it

1034
00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:03.960
also have to recognize that it fits other people better, but

1035
00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:06.510
having that, holding that space to learn from each other

1036
00:51:06.510 --> 00:51:07.953
I think is really important.

1037
00:51:09.120 --> 00:51:10.620
<v ->Yeah, I'll just follow up.</v>

1038
00:51:10.620 --> 00:51:12.900
Liz and I had several conversations and

1039
00:51:12.900 --> 00:51:15.750
it is one of those things where I, as I mentioned earlier,

1040
00:51:15.750 --> 00:51:17.100
especially as an older,

1041
00:51:17.100 --> 00:51:22.100
I've got probably two decades on folks on the panel,

1042
00:51:22.230 --> 00:51:24.930
it is a learning opportunity for me to understand that

1043
00:51:26.176 --> 00:51:28.023
it is very similar to your pronouns.

1044
00:51:28.933 --> 00:51:29.850
No one else can give you pronouns

1045
00:51:29.850 --> 00:51:31.710
and no one else can give you identity,

1046
00:51:31.710 --> 00:51:33.600
and how you think about yourself

1047
00:51:33.600 --> 00:51:37.050
and how you describe yourself is who you are,

1048
00:51:37.050 --> 00:51:39.360
and we have to acknowledge that and accept that

1049
00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:42.903
and not put those definitions on people.

1050
00:51:44.850 --> 00:51:45.683
<v ->Yeah, I love that.</v>

1051
00:51:45.683 --> 00:51:46.860
I really appreciate that too Matt,

1052
00:51:46.860 --> 00:51:50.130
and I think to add is these are labels.

1053
00:51:50.130 --> 00:51:52.998
I mean, we also don't have to have labels.

1054
00:51:52.998 --> 00:51:55.530
It's perfectly fine to not have to name or categorize

1055
00:51:55.530 --> 00:51:58.230
or box yourself in any unique piece of your identity.

1056
00:51:58.230 --> 00:51:59.400
We contain multitudes,

1057
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:03.873
and so I think another piece of this is the perspective of,

1058
00:52:04.710 --> 00:52:05.560
because of that

1059
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:08.700
be more specific.

1060
00:52:08.700 --> 00:52:09.960
There's so much in specificity.

1061
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.090
If you actually ask someone about their lived experience

1062
00:52:12.090 --> 00:52:14.760
and how they feel and who they actually are,

1063
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:16.350
because when we say queer

1064
00:52:16.350 --> 00:52:19.980
or even when we say and talk about things like depression

1065
00:52:19.980 --> 00:52:22.980
or like trans, these are individual experiences,

1066
00:52:22.980 --> 00:52:24.540
no two are ever alike,

1067
00:52:24.540 --> 00:52:27.870
and so ultimately it's going to be about

1068
00:52:27.870 --> 00:52:31.140
who this person is and that's best done in actual honest,

1069
00:52:31.140 --> 00:52:33.070
like heart to heart conversation so

1070
00:52:34.265 --> 00:52:35.183
I encourage you to be curious.

1071
00:52:38.370 --> 00:52:39.203
<v ->Amazing.</v>

1072
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.590
We're getting a lot of questions in so real quick,

1073
00:52:43.590 --> 00:52:47.910
do any of you have any resources or websites

1074
00:52:47.910 --> 00:52:51.870
that can help someone who's just totally out of the loop

1075
00:52:51.870 --> 00:52:54.483
understand more of these terms or terminology?

1076
00:52:58.470 --> 00:53:00.480
<v ->If there's gonna be an email with the recording,</v>

1077
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:02.981
I would be happy to dig some up.

1078
00:53:02.981 --> 00:53:04.830
I don't have any of my fingertips right now.

1079
00:53:04.830 --> 00:53:06.993
<v ->Okay, that'll go out on our email.</v>

1080
00:53:08.460 --> 00:53:10.830
So we are kind of running out of time,

1081
00:53:10.830 --> 00:53:13.980
so I do wanna make sure I squeeze this question in

1082
00:53:13.980 --> 00:53:15.840
and you all know what's coming,

1083
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.840
but please tell me all of you your favorite sea creature.

1084
00:53:23.430 --> 00:53:26.694
Doesn't have to be a fish 'cause I know it's a lot.

1085
00:53:26.694 --> 00:53:28.623
<v ->For me, it's an Otter.</v>

1086
00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:31.770
No one has more fun swimming around,

1087
00:53:31.770 --> 00:53:34.863
hanging out than otters.

1088
00:53:36.942 --> 00:53:38.292
<v ->Valid point, valid point.</v>

1089
00:53:42.240 --> 00:53:44.250
<v ->Mine, Anne-Marie knows this already,</v>

1090
00:53:44.250 --> 00:53:47.100
but mine is the Northern Fulmar, which is a seabird,

1091
00:53:47.100 --> 00:53:50.940
and it is my favorite because its defense mechanism

1092
00:53:50.940 --> 00:53:52.920
is to projectile vomit,

1093
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:57.453
and I just appreciate any animal that is that out there.

1094
00:54:00.090 --> 00:54:01.230
<v ->Gotta respect it.</v>

1095
00:54:01.230 --> 00:54:02.520
<v ->Anne-Marie, I see you're saying something,</v>

1096
00:54:02.520 --> 00:54:03.370
but you're muted.

1097
00:54:04.530 --> 00:54:06.840
<v ->I have my mug on my desk in Silver Spring</v>

1098
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.080
with all the puking Fulmars, thank you very much.

1099
00:54:10.080 --> 00:54:11.180
<v ->You're very welcome.</v>

1100
00:54:18.120 --> 00:54:22.353
<v ->I think I'm gonna actually jump on the seabird train.</v>

1101
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:25.860
I'm gonna say that my favorite animal,

1102
00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:28.863
marine animal or sea animal is a great black-backed gull,

1103
00:54:29.730 --> 00:54:33.340
which I work with up in Maine and

1104
00:54:35.730 --> 00:54:39.720
gulls in general are so maligned for various reasons,

1105
00:54:39.720 --> 00:54:43.170
but they are just some of the most beautiful creatures

1106
00:54:43.170 --> 00:54:47.520
I've ever seen ever seen, certainly ever worked with.

1107
00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:50.130
The level of devotion they have to their mates,

1108
00:54:50.130 --> 00:54:53.700
the level of devotion they have to raising their chicks

1109
00:54:53.700 --> 00:54:58.230
and the nuances and the intricacies of their behavior

1110
00:54:58.230 --> 00:55:00.600
are just so beautiful to me.

1111
00:55:00.600 --> 00:55:03.840
The fact that it's possible to tell individual gulls apart

1112
00:55:03.840 --> 00:55:06.570
because of specific personality quirks

1113
00:55:06.570 --> 00:55:10.500
and things like that is just so lovely,

1114
00:55:10.500 --> 00:55:12.963
so I'm gonna go with great black-backs.

1115
00:55:16.375 --> 00:55:17.700
<v ->Definitely, yes to all the seabirds.</v>

1116
00:55:17.700 --> 00:55:19.020
Definitely gonna shout out

1117
00:55:19.020 --> 00:55:21.210
Wingspan Board Game by Stonemair Games.

1118
00:55:21.210 --> 00:55:23.333
If you don't know it, definitely check it out.

1119
00:55:24.597 --> 00:55:26.281
For me, I feel like my favorite sea creature

1120
00:55:26.281 --> 00:55:29.643
changes all the time, so today it's gonna be diatoms,

1121
00:55:32.423 --> 00:55:33.720
because I've been trying to make like

1122
00:55:33.720 --> 00:55:36.960
idioms and phrases happen for ocean puns all the time,

1123
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.840
so like, instead of low hanging fruit,

1124
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:40.800
it's high floating kelp.

1125
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.600
Instead of like hitting the ground running,

1126
00:55:42.600 --> 00:55:44.970
it's hitting the ocean diving or swimming.

1127
00:55:44.970 --> 00:55:46.530
I've been trying to make this happen.

1128
00:55:46.530 --> 00:55:48.750
It's gonna be instead of a fly on the wall,

1129
00:55:48.750 --> 00:55:51.843
diatom in the sea, just let me be a diatom in the sea.

1130
00:55:54.150 --> 00:55:55.410
<v ->You heard it here first folks.</v>

1131
00:55:55.410 --> 00:55:56.853
This is where it starts.

1132
00:55:58.530 --> 00:56:01.770
I honestly was not expecting diatom to come up.

1133
00:56:01.770 --> 00:56:04.650
I'm impressed, so.

1134
00:56:04.650 --> 00:56:06.969
<v ->They're also very, very beautiful.</v>

1135
00:56:06.969 --> 00:56:08.790
If you look, take a closer look, they're so flamboyant,

1136
00:56:08.790 --> 00:56:09.623
so queer.

1137
00:56:11.460 --> 00:56:13.290
<v ->All right, Kennedy, Anna,</v>

1138
00:56:13.290 --> 00:56:15.040
give us your favorite sea creature.

1139
00:56:17.880 --> 00:56:19.977
<v ->I also love plankton.</v>

1140
00:56:19.977 --> 00:56:21.090
I actually have a copepod tattoo,

1141
00:56:21.090 --> 00:56:23.460
so I'm loving the plankton answer,

1142
00:56:23.460 --> 00:56:27.360
but I'm gonna go actually with a hooded or a lions mane

1143
00:56:27.360 --> 00:56:29.880
neutabrink, which if you haven't seen is like

1144
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:33.000
a combination of a Venus fly trap and a sea slug,

1145
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.160
and it's like the coolest thing ever.

1146
00:56:35.160 --> 00:56:36.810
<v ->And they smell like watermelon.</v>

1147
00:56:39.270 --> 00:56:41.430
<v ->Pine sol than watermelon personally,</v>

1148
00:56:41.430 --> 00:56:42.630
so if we wanna get into

1149
00:56:42.630 --> 00:56:45.753
the pine versus watermelon discussion, I smell pine.

1150
00:56:48.060 --> 00:56:48.893
<v ->I love that.</v>

1151
00:56:48.893 --> 00:56:52.140
I just learned something today about neutebrinks.

1152
00:56:52.140 --> 00:56:55.170
I'm gonna go for my favorite is on the opposite end

1153
00:56:55.170 --> 00:56:57.480
of the size spectrum,

1154
00:56:57.480 --> 00:57:01.394
humpback whales are currently absolutely my favorite.

1155
00:57:01.394 --> 00:57:03.780
I am just so fascinated by their culture

1156
00:57:03.780 --> 00:57:06.570
and their relationships and their songs,

1157
00:57:06.570 --> 00:57:09.120
so just everything I can get my hands on

1158
00:57:09.120 --> 00:57:11.770
about humpback whales right now is what I wanna know.

1159
00:57:13.743 --> 00:57:14.745
<v ->Wow, okay.</v>

1160
00:57:14.745 --> 00:57:15.823
We'll have to do a follow up webinar

1161
00:57:15.823 --> 00:57:17.204
on that watermelon pine thing.

1162
00:57:17.204 --> 00:57:19.050
Anne-Marie, do you have a favorite animal?

1163
00:57:19.050 --> 00:57:21.060
<v ->Oh, mine change all the time too,</v>

1164
00:57:21.060 --> 00:57:23.760
but we just had our 30th anniversary of

1165
00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:26.181
Stale Wagon Bank National Marine Sanctuary Celebration

1166
00:57:26.181 --> 00:57:27.060
of the New England Aquarium last night,

1167
00:57:27.060 --> 00:57:30.333
and we had an underwater photographer show off all of his,

1168
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:34.980
and based on that, I'm back to the ocean sunfish mola, mola,

1169
00:57:34.980 --> 00:57:36.780
the largest bony fish on the planet,

1170
00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:40.260
like a huge dinner plane on its side with its floppy dorsal,

1171
00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:42.570
just such a cool animal,

1172
00:57:42.570 --> 00:57:46.440
and then also the lobster in its larval phase,

1173
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:48.900
which the photographer called the Superman phase

1174
00:57:48.900 --> 00:57:51.090
when they have their claws out in front of them like this

1175
00:57:51.090 --> 00:57:53.130
and they look like they're flying forward.

1176
00:57:53.130 --> 00:57:54.840
I have to say that was pretty fun,

1177
00:57:54.840 --> 00:57:57.630
so those are my two right now.

1178
00:57:57.630 --> 00:58:00.330
<v ->All right, finally got a fish in there,</v>

1179
00:58:00.330 --> 00:58:01.323
you love to see it.

1180
00:58:03.136 --> 00:58:03.986
<v ->What about you?</v>

1181
00:58:04.860 --> 00:58:06.030
<v ->The Puget Sound King Crab.</v>

1182
00:58:06.030 --> 00:58:09.720
It's am armor tank of nothing but love and affection,

1183
00:58:09.720 --> 00:58:11.310
and I really do just love them.

1184
00:58:11.310 --> 00:58:12.450
When I see them on a dive,

1185
00:58:12.450 --> 00:58:15.393
I basically start crying 'cause I love them so much.

1186
00:58:16.560 --> 00:58:20.190
Alright, thank you all so much for joining me today.

1187
00:58:20.190 --> 00:58:22.170
Thank you in the chat for giving us

1188
00:58:22.170 --> 00:58:25.620
these amazing thought provoking questions.

1189
00:58:25.620 --> 00:58:28.300
Now I'm just going to sign us off here

1190
00:58:31.350 --> 00:58:34.980
and if you haven't already,

1191
00:58:34.980 --> 00:58:36.780
there's like a little bio document

1192
00:58:36.780 --> 00:58:37.920
that gives a little more information

1193
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:40.260
about each of our panelists that you can download

1194
00:58:40.260 --> 00:58:42.410
in that toolbar on the side of your screen,

1195
00:58:44.160 --> 00:58:48.150
but this webinar is just one piece

1196
00:58:48.150 --> 00:58:53.150
of an entire month of celebrations for Pride in the Ocean.

1197
00:58:53.220 --> 00:58:56.391
You can join us on Saturday, June 25th,

1198
00:58:56.391 --> 00:58:58.678
from 10 to 3 for Pride Day at the Bay

1199
00:58:58.678 --> 00:59:00.780
at Mallows Bay-Potomac River National Marine Sanctuary.

1200
00:59:00.780 --> 00:59:02.460
But you don't have to live in the area

1201
00:59:02.460 --> 00:59:05.430
or even like to kayak to celebrate Pride in the Ocean.

1202
00:59:05.430 --> 00:59:08.880
Check out our Pride in the Ocean website for more info

1203
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:12.210
where you can submit photos of yourself celebrating

1204
00:59:12.210 --> 00:59:13.503
and loving the ocean.

1205
00:59:14.370 --> 00:59:16.290
Our ocean is for everyone no matter who you love,

1206
00:59:16.290 --> 00:59:18.180
and we wanna know how you take pride

1207
00:59:18.180 --> 00:59:19.743
in this beautiful blue planet.

1208
00:59:21.757 --> 00:59:23.790
Once captioned, a video recording of this presentation

1209
00:59:23.790 --> 00:59:24.780
will be made available

1210
00:59:24.780 --> 00:59:26.880
on the sanctuary's webinar archive page

1211
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:29.073
found at the URL listed here at the top.

1212
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:31.410
If you enjoyed this webinar,

1213
00:59:31.410 --> 00:59:32.940
please make sure to check out others

1214
00:59:32.940 --> 00:59:35.520
in the National Marine Sanctuary's webinar series.

1215
00:59:35.520 --> 00:59:39.570
On July 21st at 6:00 PM Eastern, join Steve Giddings,

1216
00:59:39.570 --> 00:59:41.550
science coordinator for NOAA's office

1217
00:59:41.550 --> 00:59:43.779
and National Marine Sanctuaries

1218
00:59:43.779 --> 00:59:46.080
to learn why the lion fish invasion has been so concerning,

1219
00:59:46.080 --> 00:59:47.820
what we've learned about lion fish impacts

1220
00:59:47.820 --> 00:59:50.160
and control measures, and what the future holds

1221
00:59:50.160 --> 00:59:51.870
for this invasion and the people

1222
00:59:51.870 --> 00:59:54.930
who have become such a rich part of its history.

1223
00:59:54.930 --> 00:59:57.300
And of course, we invite you to follow us on social media,

1224
00:59:57.300 --> 01:00:00.510
both Mallows Bay and Olympic Coast and Stellwagen Bank

1225
01:00:00.510 --> 01:00:02.520
all have Facebook pages,

1226
01:00:02.520 --> 01:00:03.750
Stellwagen Bank and Olympic Coast

1227
01:00:03.750 --> 01:00:04.920
both have Twitter accounts

1228
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:07.770
and I'm working on getting an Instagram account

1229
01:00:07.770 --> 01:00:10.083
for Mallows Bay, so keep an eye out for that.

1230
01:00:10.980 --> 01:00:13.140
And lastly, as you exit the webinar,

1231
01:00:13.140 --> 01:00:14.280
there will be a short survey

1232
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:16.560
for formal and informal educators.

1233
01:00:16.560 --> 01:00:18.840
If you are an educator, NOAA would really appreciate it

1234
01:00:18.840 --> 01:00:21.085
if you would take just a minute or two

1235
01:00:21.085 --> 01:00:21.918
to complete the survey.

1236
01:00:21.918 --> 01:00:23.910
Your answers will help NOAA develop future webinars

1237
01:00:23.910 --> 01:00:26.005
to meet your needs.

1238
01:00:26.005 --> 01:00:26.838
Your participation is voluntary

1239
01:00:26.838 --> 01:00:29.580
and your answers will be completely anonymous.

1240
01:00:29.580 --> 01:00:31.650
Once again, I'd like to thank our panelists

1241
01:00:31.650 --> 01:00:34.026
for a really great presentation.

1242
01:00:34.026 --> 01:00:35.040
It was amazing to see all of you guys

1243
01:00:35.040 --> 01:00:36.780
and all of your great work,

1244
01:00:36.780 --> 01:00:39.030
and thank all of you for giving us

1245
01:00:39.030 --> 01:00:40.860
amazing thought-provoking questions

1246
01:00:40.860 --> 01:00:43.470
and for just being here with me tonight.

1247
01:00:43.470 --> 01:00:46.140
Have a wonderful day, have a wonderful month.

1248
01:00:46.140 --> 01:00:50.610
This concludes the presentation and stay safe, bye.