WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.792 --> 00:00:11.625 (speaks foreign language) 2 00:00:11.625 --> 00:00:13.680 Aloha kākou, aloha everyone. 3 00:00:13.680 --> 00:00:15.550 Welcome to our office 4 00:00:15.550 --> 00:00:18.550 of National Marine Sanctuaries webinar series 5 00:00:18.550 --> 00:00:20.990 and our third Thursday webinar series 6 00:00:20.990 --> 00:00:24.530 for Mokupāpapa Discovery Center in Hilo. 7 00:00:24.530 --> 00:00:27.810 We have a great talk for you today on climate change 8 00:00:27.810 --> 00:00:31.050 and how it's impacting Papahānaumokuākea. 9 00:00:31.050 --> 00:00:33.410 But before we get started just quickly, 10 00:00:33.410 --> 00:00:36.140 if you're having problems with your audio, 11 00:00:36.140 --> 00:00:40.580 nine times out of ten, it's the audio output features, 12 00:00:40.580 --> 00:00:42.000 input output features 13 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:45.860 that you have set up in your control panel. 14 00:00:45.860 --> 00:00:48.160 So for this webinar, on the right hand side, 15 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:50.270 there's a GoToWebinar control panel. 16 00:00:50.270 --> 00:00:52.530 There's a little audio tab in there. 17 00:00:52.530 --> 00:00:55.210 Just make sure that your input and output 18 00:00:55.210 --> 00:00:56.710 are set to whatever you're using, 19 00:00:56.710 --> 00:00:59.490 whether it's speakers, whether it's internal audio, 20 00:00:59.490 --> 00:01:03.210 or like in my case, my headphones. 21 00:01:03.210 --> 00:01:05.870 So that's usually where people have problems. 22 00:01:05.870 --> 00:01:08.520 Also, if you have questions during this presentation, 23 00:01:08.520 --> 00:01:10.540 please type them into the question tab 24 00:01:10.540 --> 00:01:12.600 on that same control panel. 25 00:01:12.600 --> 00:01:15.410 And also we're going to be posting a lot of resources 26 00:01:15.410 --> 00:01:17.520 and other things in the chat. 27 00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:20.300 And if you have any technical problems, 28 00:01:20.300 --> 00:01:23.090 please post them in the questions or the chat 29 00:01:23.090 --> 00:01:24.170 and we're monitoring that 30 00:01:24.170 --> 00:01:27.400 and we'll see if we can help you to resolve that 31 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:28.930 during the broadcast. 32 00:01:28.930 --> 00:01:32.943 So again, thank you for joining us and we will get started. 33 00:01:35.030 --> 00:01:39.740 So before we actually get into the presentation, 34 00:01:39.740 --> 00:01:44.740 it's customary in Hawaiʻi to open things with protocol. 35 00:01:45.170 --> 00:01:49.960 And with this, we have a wonderful name song or chant, 36 00:01:49.960 --> 00:01:52.100 that was written for Papahānaumokuākea 37 00:01:53.259 --> 00:01:56.230 and we're going to have our wonderful Malia Evans 38 00:01:56.230 --> 00:01:57.350 present this to you. 39 00:01:57.350 --> 00:01:58.840 So I'm gonna turn it over to Malia 40 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:02.170 and turn off my webcam and she will turn hers on 41 00:02:02.170 --> 00:02:05.433 and over to you, Malia. 42 00:02:05.433 --> 00:02:07.370 All right, aloha mai kākou. 43 00:02:07.370 --> 00:02:10.060 Welcome to all of you, thank you for joining us. 44 00:02:10.060 --> 00:02:13.030 So I'm gonna set the space for the giving 45 00:02:13.030 --> 00:02:15.890 and the receiving of information and knowledge, 46 00:02:15.890 --> 00:02:18.150 and hopefully by listening to the chant 47 00:02:18.150 --> 00:02:19.820 and viewing the images, 48 00:02:19.820 --> 00:02:22.023 you will understand why Papahānaumokuākea 49 00:02:22.023 --> 00:02:26.250 is such a sacred place and so worthy of protection. 50 00:02:26.250 --> 00:02:30.227 So I'm gonna turn off my camera and I will do the Oli. 51 00:02:37.230 --> 00:02:41.230 (chanting in ʻŌlelo Hawaiʻi, Hawaiian lanuage) 52 00:04:42.130 --> 00:04:44.273 Wonderful, mahalo Malia. 53 00:04:46.320 --> 00:04:48.050 And so before we get started, 54 00:04:48.050 --> 00:04:49.940 just a little bit about our program. 55 00:04:49.940 --> 00:04:53.670 So the office, NOAA's office of National Marine Sanctuaries 56 00:04:53.670 --> 00:04:57.500 has 15 national marine sanctuaries across the country 57 00:04:57.500 --> 00:04:59.470 and in the Pacific. 58 00:04:59.470 --> 00:05:02.180 We have sites such as Stellwagen Bank, 59 00:05:02.180 --> 00:05:04.430 which protects a huge bank habitat 60 00:05:04.430 --> 00:05:06.030 off the northeast of the US, 61 00:05:06.030 --> 00:05:09.690 Florida Keys down in the Gulf, between the Gulf of Mexico 62 00:05:09.690 --> 00:05:10.980 and the Atlantic. 63 00:05:10.980 --> 00:05:13.600 Flower Garden Banks, which was recently expanded 64 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.540 in the Gulf of Mexico. 65 00:05:15.540 --> 00:05:16.840 A couple of new sites. 66 00:05:16.840 --> 00:05:18.990 One is Mallows Bay-Potomac River 67 00:05:18.990 --> 00:05:21.070 and also Wisconsin Shipwreck site. 68 00:05:21.070 --> 00:05:23.440 So those are just designated as of this year. 69 00:05:23.440 --> 00:05:27.580 So the program is expanding and protecting new areas. 70 00:05:27.580 --> 00:05:29.780 On the West Coast, we have Olympic Coast 71 00:05:29.780 --> 00:05:32.510 and four sites in California. 72 00:05:32.510 --> 00:05:34.140 And as you move down into Hawaiʻi, 73 00:05:34.140 --> 00:05:36.170 we have Hawaiian Islands Humpback Whale 74 00:05:36.170 --> 00:05:38.420 national marine sanctuary here in Hawaiʻi 75 00:05:38.420 --> 00:05:42.960 and also Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument. 76 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:43.920 And down south, 77 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:46.980 we have National Marine Sanctuary of American Samoa 78 00:05:46.980 --> 00:05:49.600 and also Rose Atoll Marine National Monument. 79 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.770 So our site has 15 national marine sanctuary sites 80 00:05:52.770 --> 00:05:54.900 and two marine national monuments, 81 00:05:54.900 --> 00:05:57.950 protecting some of the most unique habitats 82 00:05:57.950 --> 00:06:01.340 and bio for their biodiversity research interests 83 00:06:01.340 --> 00:06:06.003 and many other special kind of system of underwater parks. 84 00:06:07.510 --> 00:06:11.470 But we work for Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument. 85 00:06:11.470 --> 00:06:13.940 We're the world's largest fully protected area, 86 00:06:13.940 --> 00:06:16.240 582,000 square miles, 87 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:19.530 so that's about 1.5 million kilometers, 88 00:06:19.530 --> 00:06:21.970 for many of our international participants 89 00:06:21.970 --> 00:06:23.530 that are joining us today. 90 00:06:23.530 --> 00:06:25.860 And it's the most remote part 91 00:06:25.860 --> 00:06:27.810 of the most remote archipelago on earth, 92 00:06:27.810 --> 00:06:32.810 stretching over 1400 miles across the Pacific Ocean. 93 00:06:33.160 --> 00:06:35.140 And if you were to lay it over the United States, 94 00:06:35.140 --> 00:06:38.300 you'd see a cover area from about New Orleans to Las Vegas. 95 00:06:38.300 --> 00:06:42.503 So quite a vast area is the entire Hawaiian Archipelago. 96 00:06:43.450 --> 00:06:46.260 Today our webinar hosts are myself, Andy Collins. 97 00:06:46.260 --> 00:06:47.640 I'm the Education Coordinator 98 00:06:47.640 --> 00:06:51.050 for Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument. 99 00:06:51.050 --> 00:06:52.430 And as you saw earlier, 100 00:06:52.430 --> 00:06:53.610 Malia Evans who's our 101 00:06:53.610 --> 00:06:57.660 Education and Native Hawaiian Outreach Program Coordinator 102 00:06:57.660 --> 00:06:58.650 and works as partner 103 00:06:58.650 --> 00:07:01.050 with the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation. 104 00:07:01.050 --> 00:07:04.870 And also Justin Umholtz who's our education coordinator. 105 00:07:04.870 --> 00:07:07.680 And all three of us work over at wonderful facility in Hilo 106 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.840 our Mokupāpapa Discovery Center right on Bayfront in Hilo. 107 00:07:11.840 --> 00:07:14.230 Unfortunately, we've been closed due to COVID 108 00:07:14.230 --> 00:07:17.880 and trying to protect ourselves and our guests. 109 00:07:17.880 --> 00:07:20.150 So we've been doing a lot of these online programs, 110 00:07:20.150 --> 00:07:22.720 but we hope to reopen our facility soon. 111 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.700 And if you do get over to Hilo, please join us. 112 00:07:25.700 --> 00:07:30.420 We are open Tuesday through Saturday 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. 113 00:07:30.420 --> 00:07:33.050 So hopefully we will all get through this safely 114 00:07:33.050 --> 00:07:37.190 and we'll be able to reopen and greet our guests once again. 115 00:07:37.190 --> 00:07:42.180 But today we have a very great, awesome presenter for you, 116 00:07:42.180 --> 00:07:44.610 Dr. Dan A. Polhemus. 117 00:07:44.610 --> 00:07:48.450 He is the manager of US Fish and Wildlife Service 118 00:07:48.450 --> 00:07:50.790 for the Aquatic Ecosystem Conservation 119 00:07:50.790 --> 00:07:53.120 and Environmental Contaminants Program 120 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.790 for the Pacific Islands Fish and Wildlife Service Office. 121 00:07:55.790 --> 00:07:58.750 And he's held that position since 2010. 122 00:07:58.750 --> 00:08:01.040 He's also an affiliate faculty position 123 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:02.710 at the University of Hawaiʻi 124 00:08:02.710 --> 00:08:04.520 and research associate appointments 125 00:08:04.520 --> 00:08:06.100 at Bishop Museum in Honolulu 126 00:08:06.100 --> 00:08:09.760 and the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC. 127 00:08:09.760 --> 00:08:12.810 Dan was born in California and grew up in Denver, Colorado, 128 00:08:12.810 --> 00:08:16.517 receiving a BS from Colorado State University in 1980 129 00:08:16.517 --> 00:08:20.310 and a PhD from the University of Utah in 1984. 130 00:08:20.310 --> 00:08:22.670 Following this, he completed a postdoctoral fellowship 131 00:08:22.670 --> 00:08:26.910 at the Smithsonian Institution from 1988 to '90. 132 00:08:26.910 --> 00:08:29.760 Worked as an entomologist for the Bishop Museum in Honolulu 133 00:08:29.760 --> 00:08:31.800 from '91 to '97, 134 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:34.680 returned to the Smithsonian as a research biologist 135 00:08:34.680 --> 00:08:39.020 from '97 to 2005, and eventually returned to Hawaiʻi 136 00:08:39.020 --> 00:08:42.110 to administer our Division of Aquatic Resources 137 00:08:42.110 --> 00:08:44.670 from 2005 to 2010. 138 00:08:44.670 --> 00:08:47.410 He's conducted extensive field work 139 00:08:47.410 --> 00:08:49.560 in freshwater and nearshore marine ecosystems 140 00:08:49.560 --> 00:08:50.730 throughout the Indo-Pacific, 141 00:08:50.730 --> 00:08:54.730 including Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands, 142 00:08:54.730 --> 00:08:59.730 Fiji, Australia, French Polynesia, East Timor and Madagascar 143 00:08:59.890 --> 00:09:01.680 with his most recent international work 144 00:09:01.680 --> 00:09:05.530 involving protected area planning in the Maldive Islands, 145 00:09:05.530 --> 00:09:08.590 impact assessments for the Mekong River dams, 146 00:09:08.590 --> 00:09:12.170 evaluation of biodiversity conservation funding needs 147 00:09:12.170 --> 00:09:13.600 in Papua New Guinea. 148 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:16.400 He's also the author of 218 peer-reviewed 149 00:09:16.400 --> 00:09:18.760 scientific publications, two books 150 00:09:18.760 --> 00:09:20.460 and numerous agency reports, 151 00:09:20.460 --> 00:09:22.150 including climate change 152 00:09:22.150 --> 00:09:25.170 vulnerability assessment for Papahānaumokuākea. 153 00:09:25.170 --> 00:09:28.600 So please, with great honor, please welcome Dan. 154 00:09:28.600 --> 00:09:30.040 And you can turn on your webcam. 155 00:09:30.040 --> 00:09:33.190 I'm gonna turn over the presenter to you, my friend, 156 00:09:33.190 --> 00:09:35.070 and you can take it away. 157 00:09:36.560 --> 00:09:38.210 All right. I presume everybody 158 00:09:38.210 --> 00:09:40.763 can see my screen and hear me. 159 00:09:42.820 --> 00:09:45.810 So at this point. 160 00:09:45.810 --> 00:09:49.150 I think you need to share your screen one more time. 161 00:09:49.150 --> 00:09:50.750 Oh, share my screen, how's that? 162 00:09:50.750 --> 00:09:52.226 There we go, that's it. 163 00:09:52.226 --> 00:09:54.920 Are we good, all right. 164 00:09:54.920 --> 00:09:56.173 Then we'll get started. 165 00:09:58.108 --> 00:10:00.050 Today I'm going to talk about 166 00:10:00.050 --> 00:10:01.820 how the world does not stand still, 167 00:10:01.820 --> 00:10:03.950 how we're trying to understand 168 00:10:03.950 --> 00:10:07.530 the dynamics of climate change in Papahānaumokuākea 169 00:10:07.530 --> 00:10:09.560 and try to manage for it. 170 00:10:09.560 --> 00:10:11.190 And I've got to make sure I understand how 171 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:13.070 to advance things here, here we go. 172 00:10:13.070 --> 00:10:14.400 Okay, first of all, the place. 173 00:10:14.400 --> 00:10:16.620 Andy provided you a nice introduction actually 174 00:10:16.620 --> 00:10:18.910 to where it is and what it is. 175 00:10:18.910 --> 00:10:22.500 It's the Northwestern two-thirds of the Hawaiian islands, 176 00:10:22.500 --> 00:10:24.870 essentially the forgotten part of the archipelago, 177 00:10:24.870 --> 00:10:26.800 where almost nobody lives. 178 00:10:26.800 --> 00:10:28.740 It's got a long history of protection. 179 00:10:28.740 --> 00:10:30.640 The islands themselves were designated 180 00:10:30.640 --> 00:10:32.140 as National Wildlife Refuges 181 00:10:32.140 --> 00:10:34.750 by President Theodore Roosevelt in 1903 182 00:10:34.750 --> 00:10:36.670 so over 100 years ago. 183 00:10:36.670 --> 00:10:38.430 The surrounding waters were gradually 184 00:10:38.430 --> 00:10:40.350 incrementally protected in various ways 185 00:10:40.350 --> 00:10:43.630 by presidents, Clinton, Bush number two, and Obama, 186 00:10:43.630 --> 00:10:45.780 most recently by Obama in 2016. 187 00:10:45.780 --> 00:10:48.910 So the original Monument looked a bit like a kinky sausage. 188 00:10:48.910 --> 00:10:50.580 The expanded Monument under Obama 189 00:10:50.580 --> 00:10:52.490 looks like a big melted popsicle. 190 00:10:52.490 --> 00:10:55.110 And in any case, it's large. 191 00:10:55.110 --> 00:10:57.620 As Andy mentioned, it's over 500,000 square miles. 192 00:10:57.620 --> 00:10:59.360 That makes it larger 193 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:01.880 than all of our national parks combined. 194 00:11:01.880 --> 00:11:05.290 It's home to 7,000 Marine species, 195 00:11:05.290 --> 00:11:07.620 nesting area for 14 million seabirds 196 00:11:07.620 --> 00:11:11.810 and 90% of all the ESA listed Hawaiian green sea turtles. 197 00:11:11.810 --> 00:11:15.420 It's got 140 native Hawaiian cultural sites. 198 00:11:15.420 --> 00:11:17.080 It's home to some of the best preserved 199 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.850 shallow water shipwrecks from the Post-Contact era 200 00:11:19.850 --> 00:11:21.200 dating to the 1800's. 201 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:22.590 And for all these reasons, 202 00:11:22.590 --> 00:11:25.470 it was designated by the United Nations in 2010 203 00:11:25.470 --> 00:11:27.130 as a World Heritage Site 204 00:11:27.130 --> 00:11:30.130 on the basis of both its natural history 205 00:11:30.130 --> 00:11:31.980 and cultural values. 206 00:11:31.980 --> 00:11:33.600 The Monument is a remote place, 207 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.390 you have to go about 3,000 miles 208 00:11:35.390 --> 00:11:37.690 to get anywhere else from the Monument. 209 00:11:37.690 --> 00:11:41.070 And as a result, it's coral reefs are largely protected 210 00:11:41.070 --> 00:11:43.460 from the effects of fishing, tourism, 211 00:11:43.460 --> 00:11:45.370 land-based sources of pollution, 212 00:11:45.370 --> 00:11:47.120 most of the things that, 213 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.100 cause impacts to reefs in other parts of the world. 214 00:11:50.100 --> 00:11:53.320 But unfortunately, isolation still doesn't protect it 215 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:56.240 from what's happening on the rest of the planet. 216 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:57.830 And the planet, as we know, 217 00:11:57.830 --> 00:12:00.123 is going through some conniptions lately. 218 00:12:01.390 --> 00:12:04.980 This is the carbon dioxide curve from off of Mauna Loa, 219 00:12:04.980 --> 00:12:07.810 the Mauna Loa Observatory here in Hawaii. 220 00:12:07.810 --> 00:12:10.890 And as you can see, the most recent value 221 00:12:10.890 --> 00:12:13.580 for atmospheric CO2 in July of this year 222 00:12:13.580 --> 00:12:15.500 was 419 parts per million. 223 00:12:15.500 --> 00:12:19.090 Now I'll admit I am now 63 years old. 224 00:12:19.090 --> 00:12:22.270 So this curve started one year before I was born, 225 00:12:22.270 --> 00:12:27.270 which means that during my lifetime CO2 has increased 33%, 226 00:12:27.710 --> 00:12:30.290 which means I will never again see the atmosphere 227 00:12:30.290 --> 00:12:32.900 that I knew when I was growing up 228 00:12:32.900 --> 00:12:34.623 as a young boy in Colorado. 229 00:12:36.010 --> 00:12:39.470 And where we go from here is largely up to us, 230 00:12:39.470 --> 00:12:41.730 but there's a number of different pathways 231 00:12:41.730 --> 00:12:43.010 that are plausible. 232 00:12:43.010 --> 00:12:44.360 The problem is we're tracking 233 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:46.300 on the most aggressive emissions pathway. 234 00:12:46.300 --> 00:12:48.440 And in fact, the recent pandemic, 235 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.870 although it caused a lot of economic slowdown, 236 00:12:50.870 --> 00:12:52.610 really didn't put much of the dent 237 00:12:52.610 --> 00:12:54.780 in our accumulation of emissions. 238 00:12:54.780 --> 00:12:58.170 And so we are still tracking on a curve that right now, 239 00:12:58.170 --> 00:13:00.940 without some serious policy solutions, 240 00:13:00.940 --> 00:13:02.680 is going to take us to a place 241 00:13:02.680 --> 00:13:05.870 where we're about four to six degrees centigrade 242 00:13:05.870 --> 00:13:07.750 warmer than now by the end of the century, 243 00:13:07.750 --> 00:13:10.170 which is well beyond the two degrees centigrade 244 00:13:10.170 --> 00:13:12.670 that the experts tell us at the IPCC 245 00:13:12.670 --> 00:13:14.010 we need to hold to, 246 00:13:14.010 --> 00:13:16.483 to keep very bad things from happening. 247 00:13:18.010 --> 00:13:21.610 If you look at where heat has gone since 1880, 248 00:13:21.610 --> 00:13:26.610 you can see that we've essentially gone nowhere but up. 249 00:13:26.930 --> 00:13:31.670 And 2020 tied 2016 as the hottest year on record, 250 00:13:31.670 --> 00:13:34.200 finished off the hottest decade ever observed 251 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:36.950 since these records began in the 19th century 252 00:13:36.950 --> 00:13:39.100 and 2021 is still in the running, 253 00:13:39.100 --> 00:13:41.220 despite a cool polar vortex pattern 254 00:13:41.220 --> 00:13:43.320 this spring in North America, 255 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:45.400 to perhaps equal or beat that. 256 00:13:45.400 --> 00:13:47.250 For instance, July of this year, 257 00:13:47.250 --> 00:13:51.650 is the hottest month ever in 142 years of record keeping. 258 00:13:51.650 --> 00:13:54.360 So if you thought it was hot, it was. 259 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:56.800 And all that heat has to go somewhere. 260 00:13:56.800 --> 00:13:59.540 A lot of it is going to the poles 261 00:13:59.540 --> 00:14:01.500 and quite a bit of it is going to the Arctic 262 00:14:01.500 --> 00:14:05.520 where there's been a 20% loss of polar ice since 1979. 263 00:14:05.520 --> 00:14:07.040 So there's no place on the earth 264 00:14:07.040 --> 00:14:09.320 that's changing faster than the Arctic. 265 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:10.980 However, what happens in the Arctic 266 00:14:10.980 --> 00:14:13.340 comes back to affect the rest of us. 267 00:14:13.340 --> 00:14:16.190 In 2021, the polar vortex flip, 268 00:14:16.190 --> 00:14:17.840 normally the cold air is at the pole, 269 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:18.980 the warm air is in the south. 270 00:14:18.980 --> 00:14:20.620 If you put warm air at the pole, 271 00:14:20.620 --> 00:14:22.190 the cold air goes somewhere 272 00:14:22.190 --> 00:14:25.290 and it comes down into North America and Eurasia. 273 00:14:25.290 --> 00:14:29.840 This is called a warm poles-cold continents phenomenon 274 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:30.760 and when it happens, 275 00:14:30.760 --> 00:14:33.410 you get something like what went on in Texas, 276 00:14:33.410 --> 00:14:35.930 where Dallas was colder than the North Pole, 277 00:14:35.930 --> 00:14:39.070 the electrical grid essentially ceased to function. 278 00:14:39.070 --> 00:14:41.780 And you remember all the chaos that created 279 00:14:41.780 --> 00:14:44.680 including basically driving up everybody else's 280 00:14:44.680 --> 00:14:46.580 electrical bills across the continent. 281 00:14:47.690 --> 00:14:50.980 Well, it turned out in the meantime, 282 00:14:50.980 --> 00:14:52.830 you've got a mega drought 283 00:14:52.830 --> 00:14:55.250 that's continuing to affect the Southwestern US 284 00:14:55.250 --> 00:14:57.710 and has been for 20 years. 285 00:14:57.710 --> 00:15:00.500 This is coupled with record high air temperatures 286 00:15:00.500 --> 00:15:01.510 this past year. 287 00:15:01.510 --> 00:15:04.560 I was in Death Valley on the 27th of June, 288 00:15:04.560 --> 00:15:05.950 it was 120 degrees. 289 00:15:05.950 --> 00:15:08.300 That's not unusual for Death Valley. 290 00:15:08.300 --> 00:15:11.350 Portland, Oregon was only four degrees cooler 291 00:15:11.350 --> 00:15:15.620 at 116 degrees and that is unusual. 292 00:15:15.620 --> 00:15:18.820 This has serious impacts to terrestrial ecology. 293 00:15:18.820 --> 00:15:21.630 Five of the largest six wildfires in California history 294 00:15:21.630 --> 00:15:23.280 have occurred in the last five years. 295 00:15:23.280 --> 00:15:25.630 The second largest ever is burning right now, 296 00:15:25.630 --> 00:15:28.313 the Dixie Fire west of Lake Tahoe. 297 00:15:29.630 --> 00:15:33.460 Similar fires are burning in Siberia, Turkey, Greece. 298 00:15:33.460 --> 00:15:35.170 You've probably seen this on the news. 299 00:15:35.170 --> 00:15:38.460 The point is that it's not just a North American problem, 300 00:15:38.460 --> 00:15:39.763 it's a world problem. 301 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.500 And this also impacts hydrology. 302 00:15:43.500 --> 00:15:45.500 Our big reservoirs in the Southwest, 303 00:15:45.500 --> 00:15:47.490 upon which millions of people depend 304 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:51.190 are now only about 30% full. 305 00:15:51.190 --> 00:15:54.470 And we're not going to go fill them back up anytime soon 306 00:15:54.470 --> 00:15:58.340 because the next runoff season is not until next spring. 307 00:15:58.340 --> 00:16:00.840 And so these are long-term problems 308 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:02.810 that are going to persist. 309 00:16:02.810 --> 00:16:04.640 The point of all this is that 310 00:16:04.640 --> 00:16:06.670 no matter where you live in the United States, 311 00:16:06.670 --> 00:16:09.983 the effects of climate change are manifest around you. 312 00:16:11.373 --> 00:16:12.970 And for details of all this, 313 00:16:12.970 --> 00:16:15.160 you can see the recent IPCC report 314 00:16:15.160 --> 00:16:17.123 that came out in the last two weeks. 315 00:16:18.150 --> 00:16:20.610 But the problem we have with the Monument 316 00:16:20.610 --> 00:16:23.823 is that these same sorts of effects end up hitting us there. 317 00:16:25.100 --> 00:16:28.070 The climate-linked drivers that impact the Monument 318 00:16:28.070 --> 00:16:30.790 include rising air and sea temperatures 319 00:16:30.790 --> 00:16:32.300 and these create thermal stresses 320 00:16:32.300 --> 00:16:35.390 for marine and terrestrial organisms. 321 00:16:35.390 --> 00:16:37.130 We have rising sea levels, 322 00:16:37.130 --> 00:16:40.110 which threaten to inundate many of our low lying islands 323 00:16:40.110 --> 00:16:42.030 by the end of the century. 324 00:16:42.030 --> 00:16:44.360 We have a higher incidence of severe storms 325 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.830 and associated waves, which cause shoreline erosion 326 00:16:47.830 --> 00:16:50.400 and of course, this is only worse when you're building 327 00:16:50.400 --> 00:16:55.340 on top of a base of sea level to begin with. 328 00:16:55.340 --> 00:16:57.720 We have changes in precipitation, 329 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.420 which cause stresses to terrestrial biota, 330 00:17:00.420 --> 00:17:01.750 particularly vegetation. 331 00:17:01.750 --> 00:17:04.000 And we have changing ocean chemistry 332 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:05.970 in the form of decreasing ocean pH, 333 00:17:05.970 --> 00:17:08.223 which affects how our corals to be calcify. 334 00:17:09.410 --> 00:17:11.970 So let's go through some of these one by one. 335 00:17:11.970 --> 00:17:14.240 The rising air temperatures. 336 00:17:14.240 --> 00:17:15.630 Here's the plot globally. 337 00:17:15.630 --> 00:17:18.450 These affect terrestrial ecosystems. 338 00:17:18.450 --> 00:17:21.090 The problem we have in the Monument is that we don't have 339 00:17:21.090 --> 00:17:24.130 any long-term terrestrial climate recording stations. 340 00:17:24.130 --> 00:17:25.100 Why not, you ask? 341 00:17:25.100 --> 00:17:26.310 Well, the National Weather Service 342 00:17:26.310 --> 00:17:28.000 likes to put them on towers. 343 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:30.810 Towers and albatross don't mix. 344 00:17:30.810 --> 00:17:34.360 And so the result is that we don't have a very good baseline 345 00:17:34.360 --> 00:17:37.720 for where our air temperatures have gone in the Monument 346 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:41.100 over this past span of time from 1880 to 2000. 347 00:17:41.100 --> 00:17:44.260 However, we do have good recording stations 348 00:17:44.260 --> 00:17:46.070 in the main Hawaiian Islands. 349 00:17:46.070 --> 00:17:49.540 And in 2019, we had our hottest summer ever. 350 00:17:49.540 --> 00:17:54.540 Lihue on Kauai has a station with 114 years of record. 351 00:17:54.800 --> 00:17:58.000 It broke its daily record 52 times. 352 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:00.880 And in one case for 20 consecutive days. 353 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:02.530 That's almost unheard of 354 00:18:02.530 --> 00:18:05.040 at a station with this many years of record. 355 00:18:05.040 --> 00:18:08.280 In fact, you can see in August and September, 356 00:18:08.280 --> 00:18:10.240 essentially records were being broken 357 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.743 more or less every other day. 358 00:18:13.820 --> 00:18:16.350 Honolulu was not far behind, 359 00:18:16.350 --> 00:18:19.080 broke its daily record on 45 different days 360 00:18:19.080 --> 00:18:22.260 at another station with over 100 years of record. 361 00:18:22.260 --> 00:18:24.520 All that unprecedented, really. 362 00:18:24.520 --> 00:18:26.040 Why does this matter? 363 00:18:26.040 --> 00:18:28.960 Well, in the Monument, if things get hotter, 364 00:18:28.960 --> 00:18:31.420 albatross normally incubate their eggs. 365 00:18:31.420 --> 00:18:32.680 The problem starts to become, 366 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:35.100 they can't keep them cool enough, 367 00:18:35.100 --> 00:18:36.740 even though they sit on them. 368 00:18:36.740 --> 00:18:39.180 And if you're a sea turtle nest 369 00:18:39.180 --> 00:18:41.480 and you get heated up, it influences development. 370 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:44.160 And therefore most of the hatchling come out female 371 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:46.300 and you end up with very few males. 372 00:18:46.300 --> 00:18:51.300 So these air temperatures really do have an impact 373 00:18:51.320 --> 00:18:54.980 on terrestrial wildlife and marine wildlife. 374 00:18:54.980 --> 00:18:57.470 Ocean heat content is also steadily rising 375 00:18:57.470 --> 00:18:59.700 and it's tracking fairly similar 376 00:18:59.700 --> 00:19:01.150 to the air temperature curve. 377 00:19:02.010 --> 00:19:03.850 Here you can see the sea surface temperatures here 378 00:19:03.850 --> 00:19:05.573 from 1880 to 2020. 379 00:19:06.770 --> 00:19:08.690 The sea surface temperature we have a very good handle on 380 00:19:08.690 --> 00:19:11.610 cause we can get a daily reading by satellites. 381 00:19:11.610 --> 00:19:14.910 And so if you go to the NOAA Coral Reef watch page, 382 00:19:14.910 --> 00:19:17.510 then you can see exactly where we're going on any given day 383 00:19:17.510 --> 00:19:18.960 with sea surface temperature. 384 00:19:19.910 --> 00:19:21.540 Increasing ocean temperature, however, 385 00:19:21.540 --> 00:19:24.440 is not evenly distributed on a global scale. 386 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:27.180 Some places warm or cool more than others. 387 00:19:27.180 --> 00:19:31.040 This is a plot from the last 25 years or so. 388 00:19:31.040 --> 00:19:34.220 And it shows you that the far northwestern end 389 00:19:34.220 --> 00:19:36.620 of the Monument up near Midway and Kure 390 00:19:36.620 --> 00:19:38.653 is actually heating slightly faster 391 00:19:38.653 --> 00:19:41.563 than the main Hawaiian islands are. 392 00:19:42.970 --> 00:19:45.720 These trends in sea and air temperature tend to be linked 393 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:48.700 to the El Nino Southern Oscillation pattern 394 00:19:48.700 --> 00:19:51.230 that's known as ENSO. 395 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:55.390 And what we've got here is a plot that shows 396 00:19:55.390 --> 00:19:59.590 how ENSO is varied from warm red El Nino phases 397 00:19:59.590 --> 00:20:01.530 to cool La Ninas. 398 00:20:01.530 --> 00:20:03.350 Notice that around 2015, 399 00:20:03.350 --> 00:20:07.570 we had a good solid El Nino that showed up in the Pacific. 400 00:20:07.570 --> 00:20:09.990 That had an effect on the Monument 401 00:20:09.990 --> 00:20:11.263 in a rather dramatic way, 402 00:20:12.910 --> 00:20:15.900 in regards to significant coral bleaching. 403 00:20:15.900 --> 00:20:18.470 This pattern of ENSO rides on the back 404 00:20:18.470 --> 00:20:20.180 of a much broader cycle 405 00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:22.180 called the Pacific decadal oscillation, 406 00:20:22.180 --> 00:20:23.330 which isn't really decadal, 407 00:20:23.330 --> 00:20:25.970 it runs on about 15 to 20 year cycles. 408 00:20:25.970 --> 00:20:28.270 We were in a cooler limb of the PDO. 409 00:20:28.270 --> 00:20:30.440 We're now in a warm limb of the PDO, 410 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:32.880 which means our heat related issues 411 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:35.590 will probably simply be amplified 412 00:20:35.590 --> 00:20:37.270 over the next 10 years or so. 413 00:20:37.270 --> 00:20:39.847 That's not helpful, but it's simply the way it is. 414 00:20:40.870 --> 00:20:44.370 Okay, rising ocean temperatures lead to coral bleaching. 415 00:20:44.370 --> 00:20:47.400 Corals spit out their symbiotic zooxanthellae, 416 00:20:47.400 --> 00:20:50.160 bleach and eventually die. 417 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:52.360 The first recorded instance of this in Hawaii 418 00:20:52.360 --> 00:20:55.470 was about 20 years ago and it was up in the northwestern. 419 00:20:55.470 --> 00:20:57.170 Because even though we're further north, 420 00:20:57.170 --> 00:20:58.480 that means we're more temperate, 421 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:01.820 we're colder in the winter, but we're warmer in the summer. 422 00:21:01.820 --> 00:21:04.430 As it turns out now, bleaching has moved down 423 00:21:04.430 --> 00:21:06.210 into the main Hawaiian islands as well. 424 00:21:06.210 --> 00:21:11.070 And so we picked it up twice in the last eight years or so. 425 00:21:11.070 --> 00:21:14.560 So rather than becoming something that we never saw before, 426 00:21:14.560 --> 00:21:16.100 this is now becoming something 427 00:21:16.100 --> 00:21:18.550 that we're seeing fairly regularly. 428 00:21:18.550 --> 00:21:20.500 And here's the impacts in the Monument. 429 00:21:20.500 --> 00:21:23.270 I mentioned the 2015 El Nino. 430 00:21:23.270 --> 00:21:25.390 At Lisianski Island, 431 00:21:25.390 --> 00:21:29.210 we lost 95% of the coral cover on the east side. 432 00:21:29.210 --> 00:21:32.260 It dropped from 70% to 1%. 433 00:21:32.260 --> 00:21:35.500 And yes, these pictures show exactly the same reef 434 00:21:35.500 --> 00:21:38.450 in 2014 and then in 2015. 435 00:21:38.450 --> 00:21:40.410 And so losses of this sort 436 00:21:40.410 --> 00:21:43.070 are simply not easily recovered from, 437 00:21:43.070 --> 00:21:44.410 but it shows you what happens 438 00:21:44.410 --> 00:21:48.203 when we get warm waters in the Monument in a strong El Nino. 439 00:21:49.170 --> 00:21:51.883 And such events are predicted to become more frequent. 440 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:57.340 By 2030, every pixel in the Indo-Pacific 441 00:21:57.340 --> 00:21:59.560 and the Atlantic with coral in it, 442 00:21:59.560 --> 00:22:02.720 will probably bleach to some extent every year. 443 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:04.693 That doesn't mean it will be the extent of bleaching 444 00:22:04.693 --> 00:22:07.310 that you just saw an example from Lisianski, 445 00:22:07.310 --> 00:22:09.460 but what it does mean is that, 446 00:22:09.460 --> 00:22:13.050 there will be some degree of heat stress on every coral, 447 00:22:13.050 --> 00:22:15.093 everywhere by mid-century. 448 00:22:16.090 --> 00:22:19.960 Sea level rise is another one of our major challenges 449 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:21.140 in the Monument. 450 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:25.560 This is the trendline from 1993 up to 2021. 451 00:22:25.560 --> 00:22:27.540 This is the satellite altimetry record. 452 00:22:27.540 --> 00:22:30.063 However, we have tide gauges in the Monument 453 00:22:30.063 --> 00:22:31.880 that go back 74 years. 454 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:35.780 We have Honolulu's tide gauge that goes back over 100. 455 00:22:35.780 --> 00:22:37.480 And when you lay the tide gauge records 456 00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.010 on the satellite record, they match very well. 457 00:22:40.010 --> 00:22:43.610 So essentially you can pull this same trend line back 458 00:22:43.610 --> 00:22:47.810 to about the late 1800's and it still holds. 459 00:22:47.810 --> 00:22:49.510 At the moment sea level's rising 460 00:22:49.510 --> 00:22:52.510 at about 3.4 millimeters per year. 461 00:22:52.510 --> 00:22:56.250 That translates out to about a meter of ocean rise 462 00:22:56.250 --> 00:22:58.370 over the course of the century. 463 00:22:58.370 --> 00:23:01.070 And given that we're starting to see some increasing melt 464 00:23:01.070 --> 00:23:04.950 in Greenland and Antarctica and other land-based ice sheets, 465 00:23:04.950 --> 00:23:07.750 this could well be a conservative estimate. 466 00:23:07.750 --> 00:23:11.920 But at the moment, my general mantra is, add a meter. 467 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:14.900 Look at any shoreline and add a meter 468 00:23:14.900 --> 00:23:16.750 and think about where that leads you. 469 00:23:17.710 --> 00:23:19.410 Once again, as with the emissions, 470 00:23:19.410 --> 00:23:21.840 where all this goes is somewhat up to us 471 00:23:21.840 --> 00:23:26.460 because a lot of the rise in sea level 472 00:23:26.460 --> 00:23:29.500 is in fact due to thermal expansion of the waters. 473 00:23:29.500 --> 00:23:32.883 And therefore it's basically due to emissions and heating. 474 00:23:33.800 --> 00:23:36.630 These are the same emission scenarios 475 00:23:36.630 --> 00:23:39.670 that I showed you for temperature, 476 00:23:39.670 --> 00:23:41.710 just plotted on to sea level. 477 00:23:41.710 --> 00:23:43.960 Realize going out here to about 2,300, 478 00:23:43.960 --> 00:23:46.090 but what it does show you is that 479 00:23:46.090 --> 00:23:50.250 you have a reasonable expectation of a rise of one meter, 480 00:23:50.250 --> 00:23:54.250 possibly 1.5 meters, that's three to five feet, 481 00:23:54.250 --> 00:23:55.880 by the end of this century. 482 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.640 And if you happen to be a low lying protected area, 483 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:00.810 like the Monument for the most part, 484 00:24:00.810 --> 00:24:03.220 that is indeed a challenge. 485 00:24:03.220 --> 00:24:06.410 Sea level rise just like sea temperature, 486 00:24:06.410 --> 00:24:08.300 is not evenly distributed. 487 00:24:08.300 --> 00:24:10.537 It goes up faster in some places than others 488 00:24:10.537 --> 00:24:12.940 for a variety of reasons. 489 00:24:12.940 --> 00:24:16.420 And what you can see is that once again, 490 00:24:16.420 --> 00:24:18.830 the northwestern end of the Monument 491 00:24:18.830 --> 00:24:21.850 up toward Midway and Kure and Pearl and Hermes 492 00:24:21.850 --> 00:24:24.310 has shown a somewhat faster rate of rise 493 00:24:24.310 --> 00:24:26.223 than the remainder of the archipelago. 494 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:30.170 How do we model this? 495 00:24:30.170 --> 00:24:34.810 Well, you can basically just project forward and say, "Okay, 496 00:24:34.810 --> 00:24:37.050 sea level is going to come up X amount. 497 00:24:37.050 --> 00:24:39.910 And let's just pull this up on the shorelines of the islands 498 00:24:39.910 --> 00:24:43.080 as if everything was sitting in a nice calm bathtub." 499 00:24:43.080 --> 00:24:46.360 And for Laysan Island that gives you the result 500 00:24:46.360 --> 00:24:47.520 shown to the left. 501 00:24:47.520 --> 00:24:51.570 However, people like Curt Storlazzi at USGS Santa Cruz 502 00:24:51.570 --> 00:24:53.910 have then put wave forcing on top of this. 503 00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:55.670 And what you see is that your vulnerabilities, 504 00:24:55.670 --> 00:24:59.390 once you add in waves, are considerably greater. 505 00:24:59.390 --> 00:25:00.420 And so you can see that 506 00:25:00.420 --> 00:25:02.630 if you're on the windward side of Laysan, 507 00:25:02.630 --> 00:25:05.990 at various future sea-level states, if you add waves, 508 00:25:05.990 --> 00:25:08.180 suddenly you're seeing a whole set of vulnerabilities 509 00:25:08.180 --> 00:25:10.490 you didn't anticipate before. 510 00:25:10.490 --> 00:25:11.970 It gets even more dramatic 511 00:25:11.970 --> 00:25:13.940 if we go to Midway and look at Eastern Island, 512 00:25:13.940 --> 00:25:15.790 this was the island that was the airbase 513 00:25:15.790 --> 00:25:17.040 during the Battle of Midway. 514 00:25:17.040 --> 00:25:19.160 It's now inhabited by birds. 515 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.280 But in fact, it doesn't take much 516 00:25:22.280 --> 00:25:24.320 in the way of sea level rise and wave forcing 517 00:25:24.320 --> 00:25:27.210 to potentially inundate quite a lot of this islet 518 00:25:27.210 --> 00:25:28.723 on a periodic basis. 519 00:25:29.730 --> 00:25:32.270 Most of our operations are in fact based now 520 00:25:32.270 --> 00:25:34.230 at Sand Island on Midway. 521 00:25:34.230 --> 00:25:36.530 And this is where we have a major airstrip, 522 00:25:36.530 --> 00:25:39.860 it's a major emergency diver point 523 00:25:39.860 --> 00:25:41.740 for transpacific airliners. 524 00:25:41.740 --> 00:25:42.880 If they can't use it, 525 00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:46.730 we have to reshuffle all of the airline traffic 526 00:25:46.730 --> 00:25:47.730 in the Northern Pacific. 527 00:25:47.730 --> 00:25:48.800 And what you can see is that, 528 00:25:48.800 --> 00:25:52.570 even at relatively modest rates of sea level rise, 529 00:25:52.570 --> 00:25:55.700 we've got some issues with the airstrip at Midway. 530 00:25:55.700 --> 00:25:57.770 So this was a clear cause for concern. 531 00:25:57.770 --> 00:25:59.920 This is our base of operations. 532 00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:02.080 This is an important site for the FAA, 533 00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:05.470 and it's also extremely vulnerable to sea level rise 534 00:26:05.470 --> 00:26:07.020 and wave forced sea level rise. 535 00:26:08.430 --> 00:26:11.180 In addition, there's something called crossover points 536 00:26:11.180 --> 00:26:15.040 that Dickinson talked about in a paper in 2009. 537 00:26:15.040 --> 00:26:18.150 As it turns out, an islet on an atoll 538 00:26:18.150 --> 00:26:21.910 is basically a carbonate platform, which is hard, 539 00:26:21.910 --> 00:26:24.510 overlaid by alluvium, which is soft. 540 00:26:24.510 --> 00:26:28.450 So you don't have to go completely over the top of an island 541 00:26:28.450 --> 00:26:31.700 before it starts to fall apart under attack by waves. 542 00:26:31.700 --> 00:26:33.210 All you have to do is get above 543 00:26:33.210 --> 00:26:36.290 the carbonate foundation of the islet 544 00:26:36.290 --> 00:26:39.470 and it starts to erode away much more quickly. 545 00:26:39.470 --> 00:26:43.670 And this is what Dickinson called the crossover point. 546 00:26:43.670 --> 00:26:46.380 There's a reasonable possibility we'll be there 547 00:26:46.380 --> 00:26:50.213 in the Monument and many other parts of the Pacific by 2050. 548 00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:54.860 Precipitation, very much like air temperature 549 00:26:54.860 --> 00:26:57.470 in the Monument, the issue that we've got, 550 00:26:57.470 --> 00:27:02.470 is that we've never had good long-term rainfall gauging 551 00:27:04.420 --> 00:27:05.910 in the Monument the same way 552 00:27:05.910 --> 00:27:07.670 that we haven't had good temperature gauging 553 00:27:07.670 --> 00:27:09.540 because it's the same sort of weather station 554 00:27:09.540 --> 00:27:11.470 that doesn't agree with albatross. 555 00:27:11.470 --> 00:27:15.610 So we do however, have very excellent data 556 00:27:15.610 --> 00:27:16.900 from the main Hawaiian islands. 557 00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:19.420 The plantations back then cared about water, 558 00:27:19.420 --> 00:27:22.340 they gauged rainfall and stream flow extensively. 559 00:27:22.340 --> 00:27:23.997 And Delwyn Oki at the USGS 560 00:27:23.997 --> 00:27:26.440 did a very elegant study where he showed 561 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.210 that over the course of the century, 562 00:27:28.210 --> 00:27:30.690 rainfall and stream based flow 563 00:27:30.690 --> 00:27:34.510 had slowly but steadily declined throughout the mains. 564 00:27:34.510 --> 00:27:36.100 And there's no reason to think 565 00:27:36.100 --> 00:27:38.010 that this same pattern hasn't occurred 566 00:27:38.010 --> 00:27:40.633 in the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands as well. 567 00:27:42.590 --> 00:27:47.150 Now at the same time, a warmer atmosphere holds more water 568 00:27:47.150 --> 00:27:49.680 and people are starting to learn this. 569 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.490 If you lived in Houston in August 2017, 570 00:27:52.490 --> 00:27:54.320 you got 50 inches in six days 571 00:27:54.320 --> 00:27:56.530 when Hurricane Harvey showed up. 572 00:27:56.530 --> 00:27:59.880 That was enough to cause a tremendous amount of flooding 573 00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.140 and damage in Houston. 574 00:28:02.140 --> 00:28:05.320 What's more remarkable, however, in the Hawaiian islands 575 00:28:05.320 --> 00:28:09.440 is that we got the same amount in only 24 hours 576 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:14.300 at Waipa on Kauai on the 15th of April in 2018. 577 00:28:15.210 --> 00:28:20.210 So that's nearly 50 inches of rain in one day. 578 00:28:20.650 --> 00:28:23.203 And needless to say it all went somewhere, 579 00:28:24.410 --> 00:28:26.610 but Kauai isn't Houston 580 00:28:26.610 --> 00:28:29.100 and so it wasn't quite as catastrophic, 581 00:28:29.100 --> 00:28:31.450 but I'll tell you the people who went through that, 582 00:28:31.450 --> 00:28:33.770 it sure made an impression on them. 583 00:28:33.770 --> 00:28:35.640 The bottom line is such events 584 00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:37.750 may become more common in the future. 585 00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:42.750 So the point is that you may not have more rainfall 586 00:28:43.060 --> 00:28:44.820 evenly distributed through a year, 587 00:28:44.820 --> 00:28:48.190 but you may have more isolated, extreme events, 588 00:28:48.190 --> 00:28:51.040 which actually come with their own destructive potential. 589 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:55.490 Tropical storms under a warming climate. 590 00:28:55.490 --> 00:28:58.930 Actually, interestingly enough, decrease in number 591 00:28:58.930 --> 00:29:00.460 because we're changing something called 592 00:29:00.460 --> 00:29:02.370 the adiabatic lapse rate. 593 00:29:02.370 --> 00:29:06.210 But the individual storms themselves are often stronger 594 00:29:06.210 --> 00:29:09.050 and what's most worrisome is they've shown a recent trend 595 00:29:09.050 --> 00:29:11.113 of intensifying far more quickly. 596 00:29:12.020 --> 00:29:16.030 Hurricane Walaka passed through Papahānaumokuākea 597 00:29:16.030 --> 00:29:18.640 on the 3rd and 4th of October 2018. 598 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.460 This was a storm that started well east of us, 599 00:29:21.460 --> 00:29:23.723 then got west, then hooked north. 600 00:29:25.390 --> 00:29:28.680 Nobody was on French Frigate Shoals to see what happened. 601 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:31.580 However, we were able to use satellite instruments 602 00:29:31.580 --> 00:29:33.400 to estimate that the wind speeds 603 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:37.090 were somewhere between 130 and 150 miles an hour. 604 00:29:37.090 --> 00:29:38.470 We were able to track the center 605 00:29:38.470 --> 00:29:41.000 by the radius of 12 foot seas. 606 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:42.780 And we do know that it basically went 607 00:29:42.780 --> 00:29:47.040 from a category one to a category four in only 30 hours. 608 00:29:47.040 --> 00:29:50.530 And as noted, this mirrors sort of a global trend 609 00:29:50.530 --> 00:29:54.040 of rapid intensification of such storms. 610 00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:57.193 The results in this case were basically catastrophic. 611 00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:01.710 Here is East Island at French Frigate Shoals. 612 00:30:01.710 --> 00:30:03.010 The way it looked in May 613 00:30:03.010 --> 00:30:05.830 and the way it looked in October after the storm. 614 00:30:05.830 --> 00:30:08.870 This was one of our major sea turtle nesting sites 615 00:30:08.870 --> 00:30:10.190 in the Monument. 616 00:30:10.190 --> 00:30:13.020 And you can see that it was essentially eliminated. 617 00:30:13.020 --> 00:30:15.560 There's still a little piece sticking out in October, 618 00:30:15.560 --> 00:30:18.410 but it's not even in the same place it was before. 619 00:30:18.410 --> 00:30:21.750 So a fairly consolidated vegetated island 620 00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:24.763 with a lot of sea turtle nests simply vanished overnight. 621 00:30:25.710 --> 00:30:28.470 Now it has been shoaling back in. 622 00:30:28.470 --> 00:30:32.200 And so we may pick some of this islet up again, 623 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.680 but certainly not for a long time 624 00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.080 in the same form that it previously had. 625 00:30:37.080 --> 00:30:40.480 And at the moment it's more like a shifting sandbar 626 00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.263 than it is a stable island. 627 00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.320 At French Frigate Shoals also, we have Tern Island. 628 00:30:46.320 --> 00:30:48.790 This used to be one of our bases of operation 629 00:30:48.790 --> 00:30:50.080 because the navy turned it 630 00:30:50.080 --> 00:30:51.900 into an unsinkable aircraft carrier 631 00:30:51.900 --> 00:30:54.940 by building an airstrip on it back in World War II. 632 00:30:54.940 --> 00:30:56.740 Thus, it looks like a rectangle now. 633 00:30:57.860 --> 00:31:01.370 However, you can see that on the right-hand side 634 00:31:01.370 --> 00:31:04.290 from below, waves washed in interestingly 635 00:31:04.290 --> 00:31:06.450 from inside the lagoon 636 00:31:06.450 --> 00:31:08.600 and pushed a tremendous amount of sand 637 00:31:08.600 --> 00:31:12.460 up over the old airstrip and the winds of the storm managed 638 00:31:12.460 --> 00:31:14.900 to tear most of the remaining infrastructure to pieces 639 00:31:14.900 --> 00:31:16.460 and pilot up in the lee, 640 00:31:16.460 --> 00:31:18.470 where it created an entanglement hazard 641 00:31:18.470 --> 00:31:20.790 for sea turtles and monk seals. 642 00:31:20.790 --> 00:31:23.300 So we had to send people up there to scoop all that out 643 00:31:23.300 --> 00:31:25.170 and get rid of it on a barge. 644 00:31:25.170 --> 00:31:29.690 And in addition, this wave based erosion 645 00:31:29.690 --> 00:31:32.430 is starting to expose old contaminant sites 646 00:31:32.430 --> 00:31:35.120 because the Navy had buried old transformers 647 00:31:35.120 --> 00:31:36.100 at one end of the island, 648 00:31:36.100 --> 00:31:38.570 and they're now leaking PCBs in the waters. 649 00:31:38.570 --> 00:31:40.800 So this shows you that there's a variety 650 00:31:40.800 --> 00:31:43.060 of translated effects that end up 651 00:31:43.060 --> 00:31:46.003 when you start having coastal erosion of this type. 652 00:31:46.980 --> 00:31:50.810 Now I noted that the waves here came from within the lagoon 653 00:31:50.810 --> 00:31:52.840 because of the way that the storm was spinning 654 00:31:52.840 --> 00:31:54.110 when it passed. 655 00:31:54.110 --> 00:31:56.960 However, on the outside of the lagoon, 656 00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:59.000 that would be in the upper left, 657 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.410 outside of the surrounding reef, 658 00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:04.400 we had one of our most beautiful reefs in the Monument. 659 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:07.940 We called it Rapture Reef and features in many 660 00:32:07.940 --> 00:32:11.270 of the pictures that are on our Monument management plan, 661 00:32:11.270 --> 00:32:13.520 and many of our websites, 662 00:32:13.520 --> 00:32:16.460 essentially Walaka wiped it off the map 663 00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:21.160 and left it as essentially a gray carbonate wasteland. 664 00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:23.690 How long will it take this reef to recover? 665 00:32:23.690 --> 00:32:26.610 We really don't know, whether it can 666 00:32:26.610 --> 00:32:30.390 or will in a rapidly changing ocean. 667 00:32:30.390 --> 00:32:32.380 It's just one more thing we now monitor 668 00:32:32.380 --> 00:32:35.030 when we send our research cruises up to the Monument. 669 00:32:36.470 --> 00:32:38.170 Finally changing ocean chemistry. 670 00:32:38.170 --> 00:32:39.870 Isn't really due to change, 671 00:32:39.870 --> 00:32:42.470 but it is due to a change in atmospheric chemistry, 672 00:32:42.470 --> 00:32:44.620 which then is reflected in the ocean. 673 00:32:44.620 --> 00:32:46.910 People call this ocean acidification. 674 00:32:46.910 --> 00:32:50.620 I don't actually like that term because the ocean is basic 675 00:32:50.620 --> 00:32:53.430 and whatever it becomes acid we're all dead. 676 00:32:53.430 --> 00:32:57.540 But what happens is the ocean is taking up 677 00:32:57.540 --> 00:32:59.550 an increasing amount of carbon dioxide, 678 00:32:59.550 --> 00:33:04.500 and therefore it is demonstrating that declining pH value. 679 00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:06.350 It's still not acidic, 680 00:33:06.350 --> 00:33:09.160 but it's certainly less basic than it used to be. 681 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.370 And in this case, unlike all the other curves, 682 00:33:11.370 --> 00:33:13.520 a declining curve is bad. 683 00:33:13.520 --> 00:33:15.210 Because what this does is this lowers 684 00:33:15.210 --> 00:33:17.000 the aragonite saturation point, 685 00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:18.870 which makes it much harder for corals 686 00:33:18.870 --> 00:33:20.803 to build their hard skeletons. 687 00:33:22.420 --> 00:33:24.670 And we actually can show that 688 00:33:24.670 --> 00:33:28.330 this phenomenon is playing out in the waters around Hawaii, 689 00:33:28.330 --> 00:33:30.960 because there's a station out in the open ocean 690 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.467 about 100 kilometers north of Hawaii 691 00:33:33.467 --> 00:33:34.600 that the University of Hawaii 692 00:33:34.600 --> 00:33:37.610 has run since 1988 called Station Aloha. 693 00:33:37.610 --> 00:33:40.200 And they've been sending research vessels out here 694 00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:43.880 to take water chemistry samples and analyze what's going on. 695 00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.230 And you can see a clear rise and dissolved CO2 696 00:33:47.230 --> 00:33:49.970 and a clear decline in ocean pH. 697 00:33:49.970 --> 00:33:51.620 So this is a pretty good indication 698 00:33:51.620 --> 00:33:54.890 that the waters around the Monument are actually seeing 699 00:33:54.890 --> 00:33:57.780 a change in their chemistry overall, 700 00:33:57.780 --> 00:33:59.810 how this actually translates out 701 00:33:59.810 --> 00:34:01.670 into real biological effects 702 00:34:01.670 --> 00:34:04.010 in nearshore waters is more complicated 703 00:34:04.010 --> 00:34:07.510 because there's a lot real metabolic signals 704 00:34:07.510 --> 00:34:08.850 that play out there. 705 00:34:08.850 --> 00:34:11.660 But the point is that yes, in Hawaii, 706 00:34:11.660 --> 00:34:13.990 we are seeing the results 707 00:34:13.990 --> 00:34:17.230 of quote unquote ocean acidification. 708 00:34:17.230 --> 00:34:19.140 And this, like other variables 709 00:34:19.140 --> 00:34:21.320 plays out unevenly around the planet. 710 00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.390 This is recent data for EPA 711 00:34:23.390 --> 00:34:26.330 and it shows that ocean chemistry declining pH 712 00:34:26.330 --> 00:34:28.317 is changing more rapidly, 713 00:34:28.317 --> 00:34:31.900 once again up towards Midway, Kure, Pearl and Hermes, 714 00:34:31.900 --> 00:34:34.407 than it is in the remainder of the model. 715 00:34:35.490 --> 00:34:38.707 So these are our projected values for the Monument 716 00:34:38.707 --> 00:34:40.360 and we take a look at all of this. 717 00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.550 Going forward, ocean heat content, no doubt about it, 718 00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:47.200 it's going to exhibit a steady long-term rise. 719 00:34:47.200 --> 00:34:50.363 Our sea surface temperatures will probably, by 2100. 720 00:34:55.830 --> 00:34:59.600 In terms of sea level, it will certainly continue to rise 721 00:34:59.600 --> 00:35:02.250 20 to 35 centimeters by mid century, 722 00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:05.350 a meter to a meter and half by the end of the century. 723 00:35:05.350 --> 00:35:06.890 The crossover point I mentioned, 724 00:35:06.890 --> 00:35:08.320 where we might start to have 725 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.800 an increased vulnerability of our islands, 726 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.200 will basically be reached potentially by mid-century. 727 00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:19.950 And that could happen at anywhere from about, yeah, 728 00:35:19.950 --> 00:35:23.650 slightly over half a meter to slightly under a full meter. 729 00:35:23.650 --> 00:35:27.180 Severe storms and associated waves, we've already seen, 730 00:35:27.180 --> 00:35:29.920 it doesn't take very many severe storms 731 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.060 passing through the Monument 732 00:35:31.060 --> 00:35:33.450 to cause a tremendous amount of damage. 733 00:35:33.450 --> 00:35:36.780 And we are seeing storms tracking further western. 734 00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:39.560 Changes in precipitation, it's hard to predict, 735 00:35:39.560 --> 00:35:43.060 however, a warmer atmosphere does hold more water. 736 00:35:43.060 --> 00:35:46.490 So the likelihood is that you're probably going to pick up 737 00:35:46.490 --> 00:35:50.330 larger episodic localized rainfall events, 738 00:35:50.330 --> 00:35:54.380 but your overall trend, could potentially be drier. 739 00:35:54.380 --> 00:35:56.540 It's just now and then you may get drowned 740 00:35:56.540 --> 00:35:58.220 in the midst of a drought. 741 00:35:58.220 --> 00:36:00.160 And then finally, ocean chemistry, 742 00:36:00.160 --> 00:36:02.960 looks like ocean surface pH will decline 743 00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:07.960 down to about 7.9 by 2015, perhaps to 7.7 by 2100, 744 00:36:08.580 --> 00:36:11.110 which creates continuing problems for corals 745 00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:12.993 in terms of our aragonite saturation. 746 00:36:15.610 --> 00:36:16.710 We have question time. 747 00:36:18.070 --> 00:36:23.050 Okay, friend, We are going to be launching a poll. 748 00:36:23.050 --> 00:36:26.190 So what's our question? 749 00:36:26.190 --> 00:36:28.590 Our question is, What is the current average rate 750 00:36:28.590 --> 00:36:30.500 of global sea level rise? 751 00:36:30.500 --> 00:36:34.840 Your choices are 1.5 millimeters per year, 752 00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:39.840 2.75, 3.42 or 4.80. 753 00:36:41.010 --> 00:36:43.990 If you're in full screen, you wanna pop out, 754 00:36:43.990 --> 00:36:47.223 using your control panel, to answer this question. 755 00:36:48.140 --> 00:36:51.730 So go ahead and submit your answers. 756 00:36:51.730 --> 00:36:53.900 Let's see how many of you were paying attention 757 00:36:53.900 --> 00:36:54.950 with all of this wonderful, 758 00:36:54.950 --> 00:36:59.563 this very dense data that Dan is sharing with us. 759 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:05.320 All right, so we'll give you about five more seconds. 760 00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.690 We have about 60% of you have voted 761 00:37:09.690 --> 00:37:13.927 and I am going to close the poll 762 00:37:15.610 --> 00:37:18.917 and let's see what the audience has voted. 763 00:37:23.680 --> 00:37:28.000 Okay, so Dan, we've got a majority of the audience 764 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:32.970 at 52% indicated 3.42 millimeters a year. 765 00:37:32.970 --> 00:37:34.623 How did our audience do? 766 00:37:35.660 --> 00:37:38.012 They did well, that means half of them were listening. 767 00:37:38.012 --> 00:37:41.100 (Dan laughs) 768 00:37:41.100 --> 00:37:41.980 No, that's great. 769 00:37:41.980 --> 00:37:44.440 It is correct, 3.42 millimeters per year, 770 00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.790 which averages out to about a meter of sea level rise 771 00:37:46.790 --> 00:37:48.340 over the course of the century. 772 00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.213 Okay, we'll continue. 773 00:37:52.310 --> 00:37:54.860 Okay, I've showed you all the bad things that could be, 774 00:37:54.860 --> 00:37:58.210 or are happening to the Monument because of climate change. 775 00:37:58.210 --> 00:37:59.813 So what can we do about it? 776 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.420 Well, back in 2007, 777 00:38:04.420 --> 00:38:06.810 about a year after the Monument had been created 778 00:38:06.810 --> 00:38:10.880 by President Bush, the co-trustee agencies 779 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:12.327 developed a Monument management plan, 780 00:38:12.327 --> 00:38:14.150 and it should be mentioned that 781 00:38:14.150 --> 00:38:16.430 the management of the Monument is unusual, 782 00:38:16.430 --> 00:38:20.980 in that it is co-managed by two federal agencies, 783 00:38:20.980 --> 00:38:24.740 NOAA and The Department of Interior and the State of Hawaii. 784 00:38:24.740 --> 00:38:27.040 And within those three entities, 785 00:38:27.040 --> 00:38:30.360 there are seven total different programs 786 00:38:30.360 --> 00:38:33.730 that are represented on a Monument management board. 787 00:38:33.730 --> 00:38:37.010 So we have an interesting co-management arrangement here, 788 00:38:37.010 --> 00:38:40.130 where a variety of voices are heard. 789 00:38:40.130 --> 00:38:42.070 And this plan was developed, 790 00:38:42.070 --> 00:38:46.650 it's actually five volumes long, it's available online, 791 00:38:46.650 --> 00:38:48.310 if you really want to read it, 792 00:38:48.310 --> 00:38:50.960 it's fairly dense and it covers just about everything. 793 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.090 But the one thing it did not cover was climate change. 794 00:38:54.090 --> 00:38:56.570 Because back in 2007, 795 00:38:56.570 --> 00:38:59.170 politically climate change was not something 796 00:38:59.170 --> 00:39:02.820 that we were encouraged to address or talk about. 797 00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:06.190 However, by 2010 things had changed both politically 798 00:39:06.190 --> 00:39:08.550 and in terms of our recognition of the problem, 799 00:39:08.550 --> 00:39:11.173 and it was evident that this had to be corrected. 800 00:39:12.200 --> 00:39:15.443 So the co-trustee agencies made a statement 801 00:39:15.443 --> 00:39:17.100 that climate change was actually, 802 00:39:17.100 --> 00:39:21.830 the most significant threat to the overall integrity 803 00:39:21.830 --> 00:39:25.360 of Papahānaumokuākea as a protected area. 804 00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:28.770 The other major item in the running was invasive species, 805 00:39:28.770 --> 00:39:31.943 which a line on a map also doesn't stop, we found out. 806 00:39:33.040 --> 00:39:36.330 So in 2011, a steering committee was formed 807 00:39:36.330 --> 00:39:38.460 to develop a climate change action plan 808 00:39:38.460 --> 00:39:40.650 that would contain an adaptation strategies 809 00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:42.290 for the Monument. 810 00:39:42.290 --> 00:39:44.180 This steering committee had 13 members 811 00:39:44.180 --> 00:39:46.470 and we met twice a month for five months 812 00:39:46.470 --> 00:39:48.270 and came up with an options paper 813 00:39:48.270 --> 00:39:50.630 that identified key impacts 814 00:39:50.630 --> 00:39:53.170 and potential responsive actions. 815 00:39:53.170 --> 00:39:55.060 However, that was just our view. 816 00:39:55.060 --> 00:39:56.960 And so rather than succumb to group thing, 817 00:39:56.960 --> 00:40:01.780 we then convened a series of expert workshops 818 00:40:01.780 --> 00:40:04.170 that would have people review our findings, 819 00:40:04.170 --> 00:40:07.430 have a look at research and monitoring strategies, 820 00:40:07.430 --> 00:40:09.790 assess the potential impact, 821 00:40:09.790 --> 00:40:13.640 consider what management responses we could implement 822 00:40:13.640 --> 00:40:17.560 and how we could engage diverse audiences in doing all this. 823 00:40:17.560 --> 00:40:19.280 The first workshop was in 2012, 824 00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.640 it had 30 different natural resource managers, 825 00:40:23.640 --> 00:40:26.193 cultural practitioners, academic scientists 826 00:40:26.193 --> 00:40:29.400 with expertise across a wide variety of fields. 827 00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:31.140 NOAA was kind enough to support it 828 00:40:31.140 --> 00:40:33.560 through the Coral Reef Conservation Program. 829 00:40:33.560 --> 00:40:36.483 And they came up with a draft climate change action plan. 830 00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:40.700 We then took this into another workshop in 2013 831 00:40:40.700 --> 00:40:44.090 with a larger group of 50 managers, cultural practitioners 832 00:40:44.090 --> 00:40:47.080 and scientists, whose job was to review that plan 833 00:40:47.080 --> 00:40:48.980 and then suggest strategies 834 00:40:48.980 --> 00:40:51.480 by how we could actually implement 835 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:53.403 the actions that we proposed. 836 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.280 This was then distilled down into 837 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.700 a draft action plan for consideration by 838 00:41:01.700 --> 00:41:04.370 the Monument management board, the MMB, 839 00:41:04.370 --> 00:41:07.310 they got this in April of 2015, 840 00:41:07.310 --> 00:41:09.890 they then went through a review and comment phase. 841 00:41:09.890 --> 00:41:14.363 And we had a final draft by around 2016, early 2016. 842 00:41:15.530 --> 00:41:17.380 Okay, what did this plan propose? 843 00:41:17.380 --> 00:41:19.770 Well, among other things it said, 844 00:41:19.770 --> 00:41:23.720 you need a pretty good instrumentation and data plan, 845 00:41:23.720 --> 00:41:26.070 so that you can implement research and monitoring. 846 00:41:26.070 --> 00:41:28.460 You need to understand what's going on up there. 847 00:41:28.460 --> 00:41:29.780 And as of course I've pointed out, 848 00:41:29.780 --> 00:41:32.370 we still have some significant data gaps, 849 00:41:32.370 --> 00:41:35.600 particularly in terms of terrestrial, climate variables, 850 00:41:35.600 --> 00:41:38.380 like air temperature and precipitation. 851 00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:41.100 You need to implement appropriate adaptive actions, 852 00:41:41.100 --> 00:41:42.510 to the extent possible. 853 00:41:42.510 --> 00:41:44.080 But climate change is sort of like a big hammer 854 00:41:44.080 --> 00:41:45.140 that hits you over the head 855 00:41:45.140 --> 00:41:46.910 and it's pretty hard to make it stop. 856 00:41:46.910 --> 00:41:49.380 But the one thing you can do is you can monitor the status 857 00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:52.770 and trends of your key ecosystems and species. 858 00:41:52.770 --> 00:41:55.210 You can determine what sorts of activities 859 00:41:55.210 --> 00:41:56.540 that you might consider permitting 860 00:41:56.540 --> 00:41:59.090 or not permitting at particular sites 861 00:41:59.090 --> 00:42:00.460 that are either being impacted, 862 00:42:00.460 --> 00:42:03.590 are becoming more sensitive to the climate change actions. 863 00:42:03.590 --> 00:42:05.580 And then even more controversially, 864 00:42:05.580 --> 00:42:07.910 you can consider whether in the future you might take 865 00:42:07.910 --> 00:42:11.770 direct actions to restore lost reefs or islets, 866 00:42:11.770 --> 00:42:14.030 through engineering solutions 867 00:42:14.030 --> 00:42:17.123 or other sorts of interventions like replanting coral. 868 00:42:18.150 --> 00:42:19.210 You also have to account 869 00:42:19.210 --> 00:42:21.170 for climate change in your operations 870 00:42:21.170 --> 00:42:23.490 because as you saw the airstrip you have today 871 00:42:23.490 --> 00:42:26.140 may not be the airstrip you have in 20 years. 872 00:42:26.140 --> 00:42:28.453 Your shorelines are clearly going to change. 873 00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:33.530 So just assuming that you can go about business as usual 874 00:42:33.530 --> 00:42:37.543 in a logistical way is not a very good assumption. 875 00:42:38.540 --> 00:42:41.020 We of course, also wanted to be part of regional 876 00:42:41.020 --> 00:42:43.470 and national efforts to raise awareness about the problem, 877 00:42:43.470 --> 00:42:45.490 because the more people who understand this, 878 00:42:45.490 --> 00:42:47.870 the closer we might be to policy solutions 879 00:42:47.870 --> 00:42:50.350 and we wanted to serve as an international example 880 00:42:50.350 --> 00:42:51.950 of how this stuff could be done. 881 00:42:53.944 --> 00:42:57.100 The revised plan went to the board in April, 2016. 882 00:42:57.100 --> 00:42:59.430 The federal agencies all approved it. 883 00:42:59.430 --> 00:43:01.220 The state of Hawaii had some additional 884 00:43:01.220 --> 00:43:05.670 public process aspects that needed to be dealt with. 885 00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:07.410 But the bulk of the plan, 886 00:43:07.410 --> 00:43:10.660 except for the proposed actions, was then published 887 00:43:10.660 --> 00:43:13.240 as a peer-reviewed Vulnerability Assessment 888 00:43:13.240 --> 00:43:17.520 in the NOAA science in the sanctuaries series in 2016. 889 00:43:17.520 --> 00:43:20.930 And here it is, you can find this online. 890 00:43:20.930 --> 00:43:23.430 And so everything I've just been telling you 891 00:43:23.430 --> 00:43:26.943 is covered in far more detail in this document. 892 00:43:27.780 --> 00:43:30.530 It contains most of the information in this talk 893 00:43:30.530 --> 00:43:31.790 and it forms the basis 894 00:43:31.790 --> 00:43:34.380 for the actual climate change action plan, 895 00:43:34.380 --> 00:43:36.340 which is still in the process of finalization. 896 00:43:36.340 --> 00:43:38.940 You see, well, what's taking so long? 897 00:43:38.940 --> 00:43:42.800 Okay, we had the plan in place in June of 2016. 898 00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:45.400 If you'll recall something else happened 899 00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:48.770 in November of 2016, we had an election 900 00:43:48.770 --> 00:43:53.420 and suddenly the political climate regarding climate change 901 00:43:53.420 --> 00:43:55.190 changed very dramatically. 902 00:43:55.190 --> 00:43:58.103 And so we essentially lost about four years. 903 00:44:00.260 --> 00:44:02.560 Question number two, it's question time again. 904 00:44:05.895 --> 00:44:07.245 Okay, here we go. 905 00:44:08.210 --> 00:44:10.590 So, a pool of warmer than average water 906 00:44:10.590 --> 00:44:12.980 in the Eastern Equatorial Pacific 907 00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:16.260 is typical of which ENSO state? 908 00:44:16.260 --> 00:44:17.930 So go ahead and log your vote. 909 00:44:17.930 --> 00:44:22.930 Is it La Nina, El Nino or the ENSO neutral. 910 00:44:23.120 --> 00:44:25.840 So let's see about 40% of you have voted, 911 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:29.200 we'll do about five more seconds, 912 00:44:29.200 --> 00:44:32.220 give you a chance to log in your vote, 913 00:44:32.220 --> 00:44:34.700 and let's see what that pool 914 00:44:34.700 --> 00:44:38.953 of warmer than average water is typical of. 915 00:44:39.810 --> 00:44:43.420 All right, I'm gonna close down the poll 916 00:44:43.420 --> 00:44:47.500 and let's see what our audience members have voted. 917 00:44:49.610 --> 00:44:54.610 So 83% voted that it is El Nino, 918 00:44:54.990 --> 00:44:57.450 are the results correct, Dan? 919 00:44:57.450 --> 00:44:58.420 Yeah, They're right. 920 00:44:58.420 --> 00:45:00.380 And that's great because I didn't even go 921 00:45:00.380 --> 00:45:02.010 over El Nino that heavily. 922 00:45:02.010 --> 00:45:04.670 So it means they've obviously been tracking this 923 00:45:04.670 --> 00:45:06.110 independent of just my talk. 924 00:45:06.110 --> 00:45:07.440 Yes, it's El Nino. 925 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.450 When we have warmer water in the Eastern Equatorial Pacific. 926 00:45:11.450 --> 00:45:14.700 Right now, we actually happen to be in La Nina. 927 00:45:14.700 --> 00:45:16.720 So we've had cooler than average water. 928 00:45:16.720 --> 00:45:19.320 And as you'll see, we're trending into ENSO neutral. 929 00:45:20.290 --> 00:45:23.610 Okay, where are we today? 930 00:45:23.610 --> 00:45:26.380 As I mentioned, we sort of lost a few years 931 00:45:26.380 --> 00:45:30.330 when the political winds shifted after 2016. 932 00:45:30.330 --> 00:45:32.450 However, we now have an administration 933 00:45:32.450 --> 00:45:35.030 that takes climate change very seriously. 934 00:45:35.030 --> 00:45:36.560 And the board is dusting off 935 00:45:36.560 --> 00:45:37.990 that climate change action plan. 936 00:45:37.990 --> 00:45:39.860 We need to update the science a little bit, 937 00:45:39.860 --> 00:45:42.600 but all the basic issues haven't gone away. 938 00:45:42.600 --> 00:45:45.430 We still face problems with rising temperatures, 939 00:45:45.430 --> 00:45:48.340 with sea level rise, with changing ocean chemistry, 940 00:45:48.340 --> 00:45:49.290 et cetera. 941 00:45:49.290 --> 00:45:52.250 And so now finally, it looks like we've got some momentum 942 00:45:52.250 --> 00:45:55.110 going to perhaps finalize that plan 943 00:45:55.110 --> 00:45:57.060 and put it into motion. 944 00:45:57.060 --> 00:45:59.580 In the meantime, here we are right now, 945 00:45:59.580 --> 00:46:01.890 this is where we were in the world 946 00:46:01.890 --> 00:46:03.447 from January to July of this year. 947 00:46:03.447 --> 00:46:07.180 And remember I mentioned that July was the hottest month 948 00:46:07.180 --> 00:46:11.530 ever recorded during any time from 1880 to now. 949 00:46:11.530 --> 00:46:14.220 Okay, well, you can see we're in an interesting spot 950 00:46:14.220 --> 00:46:15.300 in the Hawaiian Islands, 951 00:46:15.300 --> 00:46:17.530 because we've got cooler than average temperatures 952 00:46:17.530 --> 00:46:19.080 down here in the mains. 953 00:46:19.080 --> 00:46:21.440 And in fact, it's been for the first time in years 954 00:46:21.440 --> 00:46:23.400 or rather pleasant summer. 955 00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.430 Whereas up in the northwestern or ends up in the Monument, 956 00:46:26.430 --> 00:46:27.640 we actually are running 957 00:46:27.640 --> 00:46:31.180 several degrees Celsius warmer than average. 958 00:46:31.180 --> 00:46:35.600 And if you wanna look at that in the context of how much 959 00:46:35.600 --> 00:46:38.000 you'll see that the main ones islands are anywhere 960 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:40.260 from near average to slightly over, 961 00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:42.110 we're running much warmer than average, 962 00:46:42.110 --> 00:46:45.400 by the time you get up into the Monument proper. 963 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:48.010 So we are a little warm up there this year, 964 00:46:48.010 --> 00:46:52.090 in terms of your general ocean temperatures 965 00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:54.960 and air temperatures. 966 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:56.740 You'll notice that one little, 967 00:46:56.740 --> 00:46:59.180 kind of cool pixel down there, over Texas, 968 00:46:59.180 --> 00:47:01.900 because that's still the lingering signature 969 00:47:01.900 --> 00:47:06.160 of that polar vortex freeze out that they had in the spring. 970 00:47:06.160 --> 00:47:10.523 And even a record hot July, couldn't erase that footprint. 971 00:47:11.450 --> 00:47:13.870 Okay, degree heating weeks are how we take look 972 00:47:13.870 --> 00:47:16.333 at how much heat is accumulating in the ocean. 973 00:47:17.300 --> 00:47:20.790 And you can see on this plot, this is from coral reef watch 974 00:47:20.790 --> 00:47:23.570 that the heat is mostly concentrated up north. 975 00:47:23.570 --> 00:47:25.460 Well, I told you the Arctic is warming faster 976 00:47:25.460 --> 00:47:27.050 than any other part of the planet. 977 00:47:27.050 --> 00:47:29.160 And of course this is summer in the Northern Hemisphere, 978 00:47:29.160 --> 00:47:32.590 so you wouldn't be accumulated beat down in the Southern, 979 00:47:32.590 --> 00:47:34.180 but here in the Northern Hemisphere, 980 00:47:34.180 --> 00:47:36.750 you can see that most of the heat works north of us 981 00:47:36.750 --> 00:47:38.530 by a fair degree, okay? 982 00:47:38.530 --> 00:47:42.010 It's up there in the big bite below Alaska, 983 00:47:42.010 --> 00:47:45.930 between us and British Columbia and the Bering Sea. 984 00:47:45.930 --> 00:47:49.150 So we're not actually where the heat is. 985 00:47:49.150 --> 00:47:51.350 And that's a good thing. 986 00:47:51.350 --> 00:47:52.540 If you wanna take a look at it 987 00:47:52.540 --> 00:47:55.040 in terms of global sea surface temperature anomalies, 988 00:47:55.040 --> 00:47:57.840 in other words, how much hotter is the sea surface 989 00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.450 than it should be, then you can see that once again, 990 00:48:00.450 --> 00:48:02.510 there's a nice hot red bullseye up there 991 00:48:02.510 --> 00:48:04.910 between Hawaii and Alaska, 992 00:48:04.910 --> 00:48:07.930 but the Monument kind of runs through that yellow area 993 00:48:07.930 --> 00:48:12.500 between that and the warm water coming across 994 00:48:12.500 --> 00:48:15.080 and the Kuroshio Current from Japan. 995 00:48:15.080 --> 00:48:17.460 So the take home message here is that 996 00:48:17.460 --> 00:48:22.220 on this particular year, we're not actually warming up 997 00:48:22.220 --> 00:48:24.270 as badly as we have in some previous years. 998 00:48:24.270 --> 00:48:27.220 And this is your sea surface temperature block from March. 999 00:48:27.220 --> 00:48:30.900 Now, it's not really hot in the Monument in March 1000 00:48:30.900 --> 00:48:32.140 because you're coming out of winter, 1001 00:48:32.140 --> 00:48:35.480 but you can see we were running perhaps four degrees C 1002 00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.120 warmer than we should have gone. 1003 00:48:37.120 --> 00:48:39.640 And this was a cause for some concern coming into summer 1004 00:48:39.640 --> 00:48:43.150 because you built on this, this is a setup for bleaching. 1005 00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:46.420 You can see that by contrast down by the big island, 1006 00:48:46.420 --> 00:48:49.230 by Hilo, we were actually running cooler. 1007 00:48:49.230 --> 00:48:54.110 All right, fortunately, by the time we got to last week, 1008 00:48:54.110 --> 00:48:56.500 a lot of that anomaly had abated. 1009 00:48:56.500 --> 00:48:59.010 We're only about a degree warmer than we ought to be. 1010 00:48:59.010 --> 00:49:02.410 This is not going to be enough to bleach our corals 1011 00:49:02.410 --> 00:49:03.790 and NOAA agrees with this. 1012 00:49:03.790 --> 00:49:07.480 This is their 90% stress level probability chart. 1013 00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.930 You can see that at the worst, 1014 00:49:10.930 --> 00:49:12.910 we have a probability of reaching 1015 00:49:12.910 --> 00:49:15.780 a warning level of Midway by fall, 1016 00:49:15.780 --> 00:49:18.560 but warning isn't bleaching and my thought is that 1017 00:49:18.560 --> 00:49:20.930 we're simply not going to build up thermal inertia 1018 00:49:20.930 --> 00:49:23.710 to have a problem in the Monument this year. 1019 00:49:23.710 --> 00:49:26.510 But you can see the islands are trailing up there, 1020 00:49:26.510 --> 00:49:28.380 we're right in that little sweet spot 1021 00:49:28.380 --> 00:49:31.613 between two areas of higher stress. 1022 00:49:33.420 --> 00:49:36.300 If you look at precipitation, you can see we've been dry. 1023 00:49:36.300 --> 00:49:38.070 It's been a dry summer this year. 1024 00:49:38.070 --> 00:49:43.060 La Ninas often create wet cool winters, 1025 00:49:43.060 --> 00:49:45.900 whereas El Ninos create winter drought. 1026 00:49:45.900 --> 00:49:47.800 Well, we'll see what happens this coming winter, 1027 00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:49.060 but at least for now, 1028 00:49:49.060 --> 00:49:51.240 we've had a very dry summer in the islands. 1029 00:49:51.240 --> 00:49:54.440 And that pattern probably is also reflected 1030 00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:55.927 up in the Monument. 1031 00:49:57.210 --> 00:49:58.940 And then looking forward, you can see, 1032 00:49:58.940 --> 00:50:03.033 this is your model ensemble of climate models. 1033 00:50:04.010 --> 00:50:07.290 If you're below the black horizontal line, you're in La Nina 1034 00:50:07.290 --> 00:50:08.730 if you're above it, you're in El Nino, 1035 00:50:08.730 --> 00:50:11.410 and if you're on the line, you're basically ENSO neutral. 1036 00:50:11.410 --> 00:50:13.626 You can see we were in La Nina, 1037 00:50:13.626 --> 00:50:16.580 we are basically trending back under most models 1038 00:50:16.580 --> 00:50:19.920 to ENSO neutral into the winter and next spring. 1039 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:22.580 And once again, this is a fairly benign place to be 1040 00:50:22.580 --> 00:50:26.310 because we tend to have a lower incidence of hurricanes 1041 00:50:26.310 --> 00:50:28.430 and La Nina and ENSO neutral, 1042 00:50:28.430 --> 00:50:30.680 and we had tend to have less coral bleaching. 1043 00:50:32.260 --> 00:50:34.930 So these are our current conditions. 1044 00:50:34.930 --> 00:50:37.910 We started out cooler than the record hot 2020, 1045 00:50:37.910 --> 00:50:40.563 although after July, we're trying to catch up. 1046 00:50:41.490 --> 00:50:43.860 This was due to that displace polar vortex pattern 1047 00:50:43.860 --> 00:50:45.680 in the late winter and spring. 1048 00:50:45.680 --> 00:50:48.190 But the Northern Pacific did carry 1049 00:50:48.190 --> 00:50:50.450 excess heat content through the winter 1050 00:50:50.450 --> 00:50:52.260 in the northeast of the Monument. 1051 00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:55.170 Fortunately that simply didn't come down to effect us. 1052 00:50:55.170 --> 00:50:58.120 La Nina conditions are waning, we are going to ENSO neutral, 1053 00:50:58.120 --> 00:51:01.310 that's probably going to continue through the winter 1054 00:51:02.680 --> 00:51:05.860 and that's fine, that won't cause any huge problems. 1055 00:51:05.860 --> 00:51:09.390 There is a possibility of some minor thermal stress, 1056 00:51:09.390 --> 00:51:11.580 the Monument reefs by late summer to early fall, 1057 00:51:11.580 --> 00:51:14.080 that's when we max out our thermal inertia. 1058 00:51:14.080 --> 00:51:17.210 But really it's unlikely that that carry over heat 1059 00:51:17.210 --> 00:51:20.230 is going to cause any real problems for the corals. 1060 00:51:20.230 --> 00:51:23.230 Tropical cyclone formation is generally low during a La Nina 1061 00:51:24.870 --> 00:51:27.340 and it's not heavily favored during ENSO neutral 1062 00:51:27.340 --> 00:51:29.880 and this year we haven't had anything really kind of close. 1063 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.200 Although we may have on one ground, give us a bit of rain, 1064 00:51:33.200 --> 00:51:34.890 this coming weekend. 1065 00:51:34.890 --> 00:51:37.330 And finally, sea level rise continues to rise 1066 00:51:37.330 --> 00:51:38.580 three to five millimeters a year. 1067 00:51:38.580 --> 00:51:41.240 That's a problem that is not going away. 1068 00:51:41.240 --> 00:51:43.140 And in fact it may increase 1069 00:51:43.140 --> 00:51:46.140 depending on what happens with land-based ice 1070 00:51:46.140 --> 00:51:47.530 in Greenland and Antarctica, 1071 00:51:47.530 --> 00:51:50.130 because thermal expansion of the oceans 1072 00:51:50.130 --> 00:51:51.560 will continue to pace. 1073 00:51:51.560 --> 00:51:54.010 And so a lot of the additional rise 1074 00:51:54.010 --> 00:51:56.210 would probably be for land-based ice sheets. 1075 00:51:57.210 --> 00:52:00.970 So how do we adapt to climate change? 1076 00:52:00.970 --> 00:52:04.090 Part of it is simply by monitoring these vital signs 1077 00:52:04.090 --> 00:52:07.400 on a quarterly basis, providing reports to the board 1078 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:08.310 and to be quite honest, 1079 00:52:08.310 --> 00:52:10.663 hoping we dodged bullets like we are this year. 1080 00:52:12.380 --> 00:52:13.730 Here's an interesting fact. 1081 00:52:14.580 --> 00:52:17.050 If you are age 30 or younger 1082 00:52:17.050 --> 00:52:18.850 and you are listening to this talk, 1083 00:52:18.850 --> 00:52:20.480 there has been no month in your life, 1084 00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.120 that has had below average global temperatures 1085 00:52:23.120 --> 00:52:25.960 based on records from 1880 to the present. 1086 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:29.020 So if you are 30 or younger, congratulations, 1087 00:52:29.020 --> 00:52:31.763 you are at least in this regard above average, 1088 00:52:33.660 --> 00:52:36.020 the bottom line to take away on all this 1089 00:52:36.020 --> 00:52:38.973 is isolation is no defense. 1090 00:52:40.200 --> 00:52:43.430 Papahānaumokuākea is out there 1091 00:52:43.430 --> 00:52:45.780 in the middle of the Northeast Pacific. 1092 00:52:45.780 --> 00:52:47.910 It is basically as protected as it can be 1093 00:52:47.910 --> 00:52:49.810 from most major coral reef stressors, 1094 00:52:49.810 --> 00:52:53.750 such as over fishing, land-based sources of pollution, 1095 00:52:53.750 --> 00:52:56.460 over tourism, et cetera. 1096 00:52:56.460 --> 00:53:00.050 However, that still hasn't kept us from experiencing 1097 00:53:00.050 --> 00:53:03.640 rising seas, island over wash, rising ocean temperatures, 1098 00:53:03.640 --> 00:53:07.570 coral bleaching, an increased incidence of severe storms 1099 00:53:07.570 --> 00:53:10.030 and all these things will continue to happen, 1100 00:53:10.030 --> 00:53:14.040 because the only real solution to these symptoms 1101 00:53:14.040 --> 00:53:17.610 is to address the underlying causes of climate change. 1102 00:53:17.610 --> 00:53:20.830 And at the moment we simply have not developed a political 1103 00:53:20.830 --> 00:53:24.723 and social will as a country or as a planet to do so. 1104 00:53:25.970 --> 00:53:27.260 So the future is here. 1105 00:53:27.260 --> 00:53:30.143 The real question is how do we manage for it? 1106 00:53:31.530 --> 00:53:33.573 And with that, I'll take questions. 1107 00:53:37.960 --> 00:53:38.997 Okay, thank you so much. 1108 00:53:38.997 --> 00:53:42.360 And my hats off to you for fitting that much information 1109 00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:44.253 in the short period of time we have. 1110 00:53:45.970 --> 00:53:49.110 Really appreciate the amount you were able to share, 1111 00:53:49.110 --> 00:53:50.430 we have a ton of a question. 1112 00:53:50.430 --> 00:53:52.240 So, as I mentioned earlier, 1113 00:53:52.240 --> 00:53:53.940 most of these we're gonna have to, 1114 00:53:54.860 --> 00:53:56.450 Dan respond to via email 1115 00:53:56.450 --> 00:53:58.520 and we'll send them out to everybody, 1116 00:53:58.520 --> 00:53:59.700 but why don't we start 1117 00:53:59.700 --> 00:54:02.350 with one of the early questions that came in. 1118 00:54:02.350 --> 00:54:04.030 How much of climate change is natural 1119 00:54:04.030 --> 00:54:06.273 and how much is caused by humankind? 1120 00:54:07.690 --> 00:54:10.180 You know, there are long scale. 1121 00:54:10.180 --> 00:54:11.870 So, well I showed you for instance 1122 00:54:11.870 --> 00:54:14.150 the Pacific decadal oscillation. 1123 00:54:14.150 --> 00:54:16.940 I mean, there are cycles that run cooler, 1124 00:54:16.940 --> 00:54:21.140 warmer across the Pacific and in the Atlantic as well. 1125 00:54:21.140 --> 00:54:23.590 However, I think at this point, 1126 00:54:23.590 --> 00:54:26.040 the scientific consensus is that unequivocally 1127 00:54:26.040 --> 00:54:27.450 the majority of climate change 1128 00:54:27.450 --> 00:54:30.250 that we're now seeing as being caused by human activity. 1129 00:54:32.910 --> 00:54:34.890 And those sites that I shared 1130 00:54:34.890 --> 00:54:37.197 do offer some estimates I believe-- 1131 00:54:38.870 --> 00:54:40.720 Yeah I do look the reason IPCC report. 1132 00:54:40.720 --> 00:54:41.620 That's a good place to go, 1133 00:54:41.620 --> 00:54:43.570 because it just came out two weeks ago. 1134 00:54:45.350 --> 00:54:48.550 We had another question related to language. 1135 00:54:48.550 --> 00:54:51.780 So it says, Dan you keep using the word certain 1136 00:54:51.780 --> 00:54:54.030 when you were talking about projected values, 1137 00:54:54.980 --> 00:54:57.130 are we certain 100% chance 1138 00:54:57.130 --> 00:55:00.390 or do you mean to say likely to raise? 1139 00:55:00.390 --> 00:55:04.310 Yeah, no, my mistake on that one, 1140 00:55:04.310 --> 00:55:07.760 there's always a bound of uncertainty around any estimates. 1141 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:10.920 As I think Niels Bohr once said 1142 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:12.410 prediction is very difficult, 1143 00:55:12.410 --> 00:55:14.730 especially in regard to the future. 1144 00:55:14.730 --> 00:55:16.930 So no, none of this is certain, 1145 00:55:16.930 --> 00:55:20.080 but I think we have a high degree of confidence 1146 00:55:20.080 --> 00:55:22.050 in many of those projected values 1147 00:55:22.050 --> 00:55:23.400 that I showed in the model. 1148 00:55:24.270 --> 00:55:26.890 And folks, if you do visit the IPCC report, 1149 00:55:26.890 --> 00:55:28.969 you'll notice that there are statements 1150 00:55:28.969 --> 00:55:30.950 based on degrees of certainty 1151 00:55:30.950 --> 00:55:33.083 based on the amount of research agreement. 1152 00:55:34.010 --> 00:55:36.360 So just take into account. 1153 00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:38.010 Do I have time for one more Andy? 1154 00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:41.883 Yeah, one would be good. 1155 00:55:42.910 --> 00:55:46.570 Okay, well here's one specific to coral reefs? 1156 00:55:46.570 --> 00:55:49.550 What are the implications for human survival 1157 00:55:49.550 --> 00:55:51.170 regarding coral reef lost? 1158 00:55:51.170 --> 00:55:53.963 Can humanity feed itself without coral reefs? 1159 00:55:54.970 --> 00:55:59.910 Well, coral reefs obviously are important areas 1160 00:55:59.910 --> 00:56:01.030 in terms of fisheries. 1161 00:56:01.030 --> 00:56:02.910 There's quite a lot of people in the Pacific 1162 00:56:02.910 --> 00:56:05.730 that rely on near shore fisheries that are underpinned 1163 00:56:05.730 --> 00:56:08.100 by healthy coral reef ecosystems. 1164 00:56:08.100 --> 00:56:10.230 Realize also the coral reefs are essentially 1165 00:56:10.230 --> 00:56:13.430 living infrastructure that buffer your coastlines 1166 00:56:13.430 --> 00:56:17.260 from significant impacts from storms and waves and such. 1167 00:56:17.260 --> 00:56:22.143 Okay, so if you lose that and have to rebuild it, 1168 00:56:23.380 --> 00:56:25.170 by using concrete or whatever, 1169 00:56:25.170 --> 00:56:26.750 it's tremendously expensive 1170 00:56:26.750 --> 00:56:28.700 and you still can't do the same job corals do. 1171 00:56:28.700 --> 00:56:30.660 Because corals fix themselves 1172 00:56:30.660 --> 00:56:33.210 rather than you having to go back out and fix them. 1173 00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:38.720 All right, and we'll get back to, lets see, 1174 00:56:38.720 --> 00:56:42.050 warming holds threats for ocean currents in many locations. 1175 00:56:42.050 --> 00:56:44.720 Are there any ocean current effects anticipated 1176 00:56:44.720 --> 00:56:48.350 for Papahānaumokuākea other than islet? 1177 00:56:48.350 --> 00:56:50.590 I'm not aware of studies in that regard, 1178 00:56:50.590 --> 00:56:52.180 but doesn't mean they don't exist. 1179 00:56:52.180 --> 00:56:55.520 I think most of that worry has actually centered 1180 00:56:55.520 --> 00:56:56.660 on the Atlantic 1181 00:56:56.660 --> 00:56:59.760 and the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, 1182 00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.640 the AMOC, which is essentially the Gulf stream system 1183 00:57:03.640 --> 00:57:06.410 that runs up the east coast of the United States 1184 00:57:06.410 --> 00:57:07.270 and across the Europe. 1185 00:57:07.270 --> 00:57:09.830 I think there's worries that melting of Greenland 1186 00:57:09.830 --> 00:57:12.940 and a creation of a cold pool down south of Greenland 1187 00:57:12.940 --> 00:57:14.950 could disrupt that circulation. 1188 00:57:14.950 --> 00:57:17.580 We don't have anything quite the same in the Pacific, 1189 00:57:17.580 --> 00:57:20.363 but that isn't to say there aren't similar vulnerabilities. 1190 00:57:21.970 --> 00:57:24.360 All right, and if I could squeeze one more question 1191 00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:25.539 or are we out of time? 1192 00:57:25.539 --> 00:57:28.140 No, no, we could do one more. 1193 00:57:28.140 --> 00:57:31.230 So you had a lot of appreciation for your presentation 1194 00:57:31.230 --> 00:57:32.640 the question is, are there areas 1195 00:57:32.640 --> 00:57:35.090 both horizontal vertical inside of PMNM, 1196 00:57:35.090 --> 00:57:37.970 which are more stressed by changes than others 1197 00:57:37.970 --> 00:57:40.450 and whether there're reasons for those differences? 1198 00:57:40.450 --> 00:57:42.050 Within the Monument, you mean? 1199 00:57:43.040 --> 00:57:46.700 Well, we only have two really high islands. 1200 00:57:46.700 --> 00:57:49.200 We have Nihoa and we have Mokumanamana, 1201 00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:51.090 previously known as an Necker. 1202 00:57:51.090 --> 00:57:53.420 Everything else in the Monument is essentially 1203 00:57:53.420 --> 00:57:57.800 a low lying atoll or a slightly secondarily raised atoll. 1204 00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:01.650 So essentially 10 of our 12 islands are 1205 00:58:01.650 --> 00:58:04.260 at extreme risk from sea level rise, 1206 00:58:04.260 --> 00:58:06.840 if it really does run to a meter and a half 1207 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:08.140 by the end of the century. 1208 00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:11.512 Great, thank you all and 1209 00:58:11.512 --> 00:58:13.570 (mumbles) 1210 00:58:13.570 --> 00:58:16.070 Thank you Dan, for a wonderful talk. 1211 00:58:16.070 --> 00:58:21.070 That was very fascinating and terrifying at the same time, 1212 00:58:21.145 --> 00:58:22.940 (laughs) 1213 00:58:22.940 --> 00:58:26.170 but we really appreciate you joining us today. 1214 00:58:26.170 --> 00:58:29.590 And as a last little tidbit as education, 1215 00:58:29.590 --> 00:58:31.700 that would feel deplete 1216 00:58:31.700 --> 00:58:34.570 if I did not leave you with some thoughts, 1217 00:58:34.570 --> 00:58:35.780 the current thinking around 1218 00:58:35.780 --> 00:58:38.030 what we can do for climate change is that 1219 00:58:38.030 --> 00:58:40.220 although individual actions are great, 1220 00:58:40.220 --> 00:58:43.100 like driving less, flying less, certainly things like that, 1221 00:58:43.100 --> 00:58:44.950 eating lower on the food chain, 1222 00:58:44.950 --> 00:58:47.370 really the big changes that need to happen 1223 00:58:47.370 --> 00:58:49.230 have to happen at country level 1224 00:58:49.230 --> 00:58:50.630 and things like that. 1225 00:58:50.630 --> 00:58:55.630 Switching our energy choices to more renewable sources 1226 00:58:56.080 --> 00:58:58.070 and changes in our manufacturing 1227 00:58:58.070 --> 00:58:58.910 and things like that. 1228 00:58:58.910 --> 00:59:01.950 So what you can do there is certainly keep track of that 1229 00:59:01.950 --> 00:59:04.790 and try to advocate for those at a community 1230 00:59:04.790 --> 00:59:06.550 and a country level, 1231 00:59:06.550 --> 00:59:09.360 and that's really where the changes will take place, 1232 00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:11.540 that need to happen in order for us to 1233 00:59:11.540 --> 00:59:14.500 at least arrest the continued progress 1234 00:59:14.500 --> 00:59:17.330 towards putting more CO2 into the atmosphere. 1235 00:59:17.330 --> 00:59:18.950 So thank you for joining us. 1236 00:59:18.950 --> 00:59:23.950 So this webinar will be archived on our sanctuary site. 1237 00:59:24.790 --> 00:59:28.050 As you can see, there is with our other, sorry, 1238 00:59:28.050 --> 00:59:30.130 with our other presentations, 1239 00:59:30.130 --> 00:59:32.540 we have a whole suite of presentations in there now 1240 00:59:32.540 --> 00:59:34.150 from Papahānaumokuākea. 1241 00:59:34.150 --> 00:59:37.850 So you can practically take a course in Papahānaumokuākea, 1242 00:59:37.850 --> 00:59:39.340 by watching all those. 1243 00:59:39.340 --> 00:59:41.040 They give us about two weeks to put that up, 1244 00:59:41.040 --> 00:59:43.700 we need to caption it for accessibility, 1245 00:59:43.700 --> 00:59:45.460 and then it will be up. 1246 00:59:45.460 --> 00:59:47.650 You will also get a certificate of attendance 1247 00:59:47.650 --> 00:59:49.670 from attending this broadcast 1248 00:59:49.670 --> 00:59:51.750 for an hour's worth of professional development. 1249 00:59:51.750 --> 00:59:54.700 You'll get that in your email by tomorrow, probably, 1250 00:59:54.700 --> 00:59:58.190 and also please join us next month on September 16th, 1251 00:59:58.190 --> 01:00:02.150 when another scientist from Fish and Wildlife Service 1252 01:00:02.150 --> 01:00:05.060 will be really beautiful hopeful message, 1253 01:00:05.060 --> 01:00:08.030 because a lot of the great work that they've been doing 1254 01:00:08.030 --> 01:00:09.410 in the Northwestern Hawaiian islands 1255 01:00:09.410 --> 01:00:12.520 around terrestrial birds has been extremely successful, 1256 01:00:12.520 --> 01:00:14.823 including these wonderful lace and teal, 1257 01:00:15.940 --> 01:00:18.710 it's an endemic bird in the Northwestern Hawaiian islands. 1258 01:00:18.710 --> 01:00:20.133 And so Dr. Sheldon Plentovich 1259 01:00:20.133 --> 01:00:21.830 will be talking to us next month. 1260 01:00:21.830 --> 01:00:23.580 So please sign up for that. 1261 01:00:23.580 --> 01:00:26.080 You're gonna get an email about that soon. 1262 01:00:26.080 --> 01:00:28.950 And also don't forget to take our survey before you leave. 1263 01:00:28.950 --> 01:00:31.820 We really need this information to support these webinars 1264 01:00:31.820 --> 01:00:35.140 and things that we can do that you might, 1265 01:00:35.140 --> 01:00:35.973 that we're not doing, 1266 01:00:35.973 --> 01:00:38.320 that you might want us to be able to present on. 1267 01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:41.730 And lastly, the questions will all be sent off to Dan 1268 01:00:41.730 --> 01:00:43.930 and those that aren't answered he'll to answer those, 1269 01:00:43.930 --> 01:00:45.460 and we'll send them back out to everybody 1270 01:00:45.460 --> 01:00:48.020 who registered for this broadcast. 1271 01:00:48.020 --> 01:00:50.600 So mahalo for joining us today again. 1272 01:00:50.600 --> 01:00:55.600 Mahalo Dan that was excellent and stay safe and take care. 1273 01:00:56.022 --> 01:00:56.855 Aloha.