WEBVTT 00:00:01.920 --> 00:00:05.800 Hello. Welcome to the National Marine Sanctuary 00:00:05.800 --> 00:00:10.580 Webinar Series. I'm Chris Butler-Minor. I'm the Community Engagement Specialist 00:00:10.580 --> 00:00:12.420 with the Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary. 00:00:12.660 --> 00:00:17.060 And joining me today are Nicole Harris and Jacqueline Laverdure 00:00:17.380 --> 00:00:20.220 who are with the Education team for the sanctuary. 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:25.440 They'll be helping me with polls and question and answer 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:27.880 sessions, and so forth. 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:30.400 And not to spoil the surprise, 00:00:30.400 --> 00:00:33.520 but we also have Daniel Studt with us 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:38.380 today, with fisheries, but we'll learn a little bit more about him in a couple of minutes. 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.100 So, we're pleased to have you join us today 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.120 for “Gone Fishing in the Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary.” 00:00:46.700 --> 00:00:51.480 It's one of the several events that will take place to celebrate 00:00:51.680 --> 00:00:53.520 getting into your sanctuary. 00:00:55.260 --> 00:00:56.880 And this event is hosted by NOAA's 00:00:57.020 --> 00:00:59.251 NOAA's Office of National Sanctuaries. And it's a 00:00:59.260 --> 00:01:01.560 way to help you learn about 00:01:01.800 --> 00:01:05.500 recreational fishing in the sanctuary, here off the Olympic 00:01:05.660 --> 00:01:08.240 coast. So, during the presentation 00:01:08.240 --> 00:01:10.640 you're all going to be, as attendees, 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:15.740 you'll all be in listen only mode, but you are welcome to type questions for 00:01:16.240 --> 00:01:19.720 the speakers in the question box. It's on the lower 00:01:19.720 --> 00:01:24.760 right-hand side of your control panel. You can also use that to get technical 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:28.940 assistance during the presentation and we will get 00:01:28.940 --> 00:01:32.640 back to you with help as quickly as we can. 00:01:35.460 --> 00:01:40.200 So, we're recording this session and we will share the recording with 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:44.399 registered participants via email and on the sanctuary's 00:01:46.320 --> 00:01:49.860 facebook page as a "Get Into Your Sanctuary" event - a 00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:56.900 watch party on August 2nd at 2 p.m Pacific Daylight time. Our "Get Into Your 00:01:57.140 --> 00:01:59.840 Sanctuary" celebration is an annual August event 00:02:01.300 --> 00:02:04.460 that's celebrated across the national marine sanctuary system. 00:02:04.460 --> 00:02:08.880 And we greatly appreciate any feedback that you have for us 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:16.480 with this, this webinar so that we can improve where we need to and continue 00:02:16.480 --> 00:02:21.900 doing good work where we're doing it. So, if you would be so kind as to take a 00:02:21.900 --> 00:02:25.680 few minutes and complete the survey at the end of the webinar that 00:02:25.740 --> 00:02:28.000 would be much appreciated. 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:35.519 So, this is the fifth annual "Get Into Your Sanctuary" 00:02:36.820 --> 00:02:42.060 days that we're celebrating - held every year in August. And I'd like 00:02:42.060 --> 00:02:46.380 to start this broadcast with telling you a 00:02:46.380 --> 00:02:51.280 little bit about the sanctuary system as a whole. NOAA's National Marine 00:02:51.440 --> 00:02:54.720 Sanctuary System is, consists of 15 00:02:55.480 --> 00:02:59.120 marine and coastal protected areas that encompass 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:04.740 over 600,000 square miles of marine and Great Lakes waters from 00:03:04.740 --> 00:03:09.600 Washington state to Florida Keys, from Lake Huron all the 00:03:09.600 --> 00:03:14.240 way out to American Samoa. What we're going to 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:18.560 talk to you today about is the Olympic Coast 00:03:18.560 --> 00:03:23.200 National Marine Sanctuary in Washington, which is where the red star 00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:28.540 is located on the map that you see. Just a little bit of trivia or food 00:03:28.540 --> 00:03:33.160 for thought: did you know that the majority of water 00:03:33.160 --> 00:03:35.320 within NOAA National Marine Sanctuaries, 00:03:35.320 --> 00:03:39.460 including the Olympic Coast, are open to compatible and responsible 00:03:39.600 --> 00:03:43.920 recreational activities like surfing, kayaking, 00:03:43.920 --> 00:03:48.920 wildlife viewing, scuba diving, and what we're talking about today 00:03:48.920 --> 00:03:53.820 recreational fishing? It's also open for sustainable 00:03:53.820 --> 00:03:58.160 tourism and stewardship opportune opportunities. 00:03:58.340 --> 00:04:01.240 Not only these activities great fun, but 00:04:01.460 --> 00:04:05.560 they provide benefits to the local economy. 00:04:12.140 --> 00:04:16.200 So, Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary protects the area 00:04:16.260 --> 00:04:19.140 off Washington’s Pacific coast and that's outlined 00:04:19.140 --> 00:04:22.960 in red in the map - in the center of the slide that you're looking at. 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:28.880 This large area covers up to nearly 3,200 square miles. 00:04:28.880 --> 00:04:33.120 It extends up to 40 miles offshore in the northern section, 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.060 kind of where you see the little dog nose, and 00:04:36.060 --> 00:04:40.420 and then follows the continental shelf southward. 00:04:40.420 --> 00:04:44.640 And at the base of the sanctuary, it's about 00:04:44.640 --> 00:04:50.220 25 miles offshore. So this sanctuary has one of the longest 00:04:50.220 --> 00:04:54.760 stretches of wilderness coastline in the continuous, 00:04:54.760 --> 00:04:58.960 contiguous United States and it borders protected areas 00:04:59.920 --> 00:05:05.280 well, like the Olympic National Park and the wilderness 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:09.500 areas, like the National Wildlife Refuge, those 00:05:09.500 --> 00:05:13.900 Complexes, and also Washington State Parks. It also 00:05:14.100 --> 00:05:21.340 follows or adjoins some of the traditional lands, past and present, of 00:05:21.340 --> 00:05:25.320 the Makah, Quileute, and Hoh Tribes 00:05:25.320 --> 00:05:28.720 and the quill not, excuse me, the Quinault Indian Nation. 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:34.080 The sanctuary itself lies within the Usual and Accustomed 00:05:34.080 --> 00:05:37.940 fishing and hunting areas of these Coastal Treaty Tribes and has supported 00:05:37.940 --> 00:05:43.780 humans for thousands of years. Olympic Coast also has many different 00:05:43.780 --> 00:05:47.780 habitats - from sandy beaches to rocky intertidal 00:05:47.780 --> 00:05:51.920 zones, kelp forests, and deep-sea canyons. 00:05:52.200 --> 00:05:57.560 And this makes it the perfect place for a wide variety of marine life to coexist. 00:05:57.900 --> 00:06:01.220 It actually happens to be one of the most diverse and productive 00:06:01.220 --> 00:06:04.720 marine ecosystems in the entire world, with 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:13.320 29 species of marine mammals, 128 species of seabirds, and it teems with numerous 00:06:13.320 --> 00:06:16.140 fish and invertebrate species. 00:06:18.760 --> 00:06:22.320 The Olympic Coast is really well known for its recreational 00:06:22.400 --> 00:06:25.740 and commercial fishing opportunities, including smelt 00:06:25.740 --> 00:06:35.480 and salmon, and black cod or sablefish, halibut, Dungeness crab, razor clams 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:40.940 and more! So, who's ready to hear some fishing stories 00:06:40.940 --> 00:06:43.680 today? Yay! 00:06:57.180 --> 00:07:02.140 So, without further ado, I'm going to turn our 00:07:02.140 --> 00:07:06.680 presentation over to Daniel Studt and he'll tell you a little bit more about 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.160 himself. And I'm sure you'll enjoy what he has to 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:13.000 say. - Awesome, thank you so much Chris and 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.220 thank you, everyone, for joining our "Gone Fishing in the Olympic Coast National 00:07:16.220 --> 00:07:19.820 Marine Sanctuary presentation. So my name is Daniel Studt 00:07:19.820 --> 00:07:23.500 and I am the Recreational Fisheries Coordinator for NOAA Fisheries West 00:07:23.640 --> 00:07:26.500 Coast region. I'll be covering quite a bit in a short 00:07:26.760 --> 00:07:29.360 amount of time, so I apologize if I'm going fast. 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:33.040 The presentation will be available online and I'll provide my contact 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:37.380 information as well. Again, there's so much to share in 00:07:37.540 --> 00:07:41.380 this presentation. I'll be covering, you know, NOAA fisheries, who we are and the 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.100 importance of recreational fishing to Washington 00:07:44.100 --> 00:07:47.980 as well as fish identification and some release tips. After that, we'll chat, 00:07:47.980 --> 00:07:51.420 chat with Ben Maxson from Windsong Charters. 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:57.940 next slide, please. So, recreational fishing is a favorite American pastime, 00:07:57.940 --> 00:08:02.060 you know, provides opportunities for people to experience the marine and 00:08:02.060 --> 00:08:04.940 freshwater environments, spending time with friends and family on 00:08:04.940 --> 00:08:07.980 the water, and of course bringing home some food. 00:08:07.980 --> 00:08:11.420 While national marine sanctuaries protect underwater ecosystems, they also 00:08:11.520 --> 00:08:14.300 provide for a variety of recreational uses, like Chris mentioned, 00:08:14.300 --> 00:08:17.440 and that includes recreational fishing. 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:22.000 next slide, please. 00:08:24.220 --> 00:08:28.060 So, the National Marine Fisheries Service and the national marine sanctuaries 00:08:28.060 --> 00:08:30.280 are part of the NOAA umbrella. As you can see on the screen, the 00:08:30.340 --> 00:08:33.960 missions of both of our agencies focus on the understanding, protection, and 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:38.380 management of our ocean resources. Sanctuaries focus more broadly on 00:08:38.380 --> 00:08:42.160 natural and cultural resources while our fisheries namesake focuses on fisheries 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:45.300 and their habitats. 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.480 next slide, please. 00:08:50.680 --> 00:08:54.820 So there are three main management bodies for recreational fisheries on 00:08:54.820 --> 00:08:57.400 on the West Coast. You have your state fish and wildlife agencies, so that's 00:08:57.400 --> 00:08:59.640 Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife 00:08:59.640 --> 00:09:02.940 up in Washington. They typically manage fisheries that 00:09:02.940 --> 00:09:06.140 occur between zero and three nautical miles. 00:09:06.140 --> 00:09:10.820 There's NOAA Fisheries on the other hand that manages those further offshore, from 00:09:10.820 --> 00:09:13.520 three to two hundred, as well as the high seas, and then 00:09:13.520 --> 00:09:16.800 there's also the Pacific Fisheries Management Council. 00:09:16.800 --> 00:09:21.500 So, the Pacific Council is one of eight councils established across the nation 00:09:21.500 --> 00:09:26.880 by congress in 1976. The council consists of federal and state 00:09:26.880 --> 00:09:29.820 agency representatives, there's a tribal representative, 00:09:29.820 --> 00:09:32.980 there's members of industry, and there's the public, and 00:09:32.980 --> 00:09:36.980 the council provides recommendations to NOAA Fisheries on management measures 00:09:36.980 --> 00:09:40.660 such as catch limits, depth limits, and seasons. Fish can be 00:09:40.660 --> 00:09:44.100 found in state, federal, and even international waters, so there's close 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:47.600 coordination among all of those three management bodies and I 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:51.920 also want to quickly note that, you know, it's a very public and transparent process. 00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:55.060 And public input is, as you know, always welcome during these 00:09:55.060 --> 00:09:57.980 meetings. So check out online, the Pacific Council 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.320 "pcouncil.org." 00:10:00.800 --> 00:10:05.540 next slide, please. So, so these are just some of the fisheries that we manage 00:10:05.540 --> 00:10:08.720 on the west coast: you have your Pacific halibut, your 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:13.800 ground fish, otherwise known as rockfish, your tunas, your salmon, and your coastal 00:10:13.800 --> 00:10:17.180 pelagic species like sardine, anchovy, and mackerel. 00:10:20.520 --> 00:10:22.320 next slide, please. 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:30.240 So, NOAA Fisheries doesn't just focus on commercial fisheries. We want to ensure 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.220 sustainable fishing opportunities for all and that includes 00:10:33.220 --> 00:10:37.140 recreational fisheries. So, so we have a national saltwater recreational 00:10:37.140 --> 00:10:40.840 fisheries policies with three main goals. And the first is 00:10:40.840 --> 00:10:45.160 to support and maintain sustainable recreational fisheries resources, 00:10:45.160 --> 00:10:49.880 including healthy marine and estuarine habitats. Second, we want to promote 00:10:49.880 --> 00:10:53.760 sustainable recreational fishing for the social, cultural, and economic benefit of 00:10:53.760 --> 00:10:57.440 the nation. And third, enable enduring participation 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.900 and enjoyment of saltwater recreational fisheries through 00:11:00.900 --> 00:11:04.740 science-based conservation and management. 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:13.100 next slide, please. To accomplish part of those guiding principles, NOAA 00:11:13.100 --> 00:11:16.260 fisheries has worked to improve our communication 00:11:16.260 --> 00:11:18.920 with recreational fishermen across the west coast. 00:11:18.920 --> 00:11:21.980 And in the last couple of years, we have hosted 00:11:21.980 --> 00:11:27.340 four round tables throughout each, you know each state, trying to identify 00:11:27.340 --> 00:11:31.520 you know, what what concerns recreational fishermen are 00:11:31.520 --> 00:11:33.660 you know, involved in and you know, 00:11:33.660 --> 00:11:37.520 discuss how we can better support and learn from them. Some other 00:11:37.520 --> 00:11:41.640 primarily primary concerns relate to access. 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:46.860 There's discussions around hatchery fish, marine mammal, and bird depredation, 00:11:46.860 --> 00:11:50.440 improving our communications from NOAA, also data - 00:11:50.560 --> 00:11:53.740 both economic and stock assessment and other long-term 00:11:53.740 --> 00:11:58.800 concerns for the future of fisheries management or recreational fisheries. 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:06.780 And one of our primary goals also is increasing sustainable 00:12:06.860 --> 00:12:11.940 fishing opportunities. One program that we like to highlight is our rockfish 00:12:11.940 --> 00:12:14.980 recompression program. We work with our state partners like 00:12:14.980 --> 00:12:17.240 Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife 00:12:17.240 --> 00:12:21.620 to distribute descending devices, also educate anglers on the use of 00:12:21.620 --> 00:12:25.120 descending devices, and proper fish identification. 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:30.300 We partner with, with organizations on habitat restoration and provide some 00:12:30.300 --> 00:12:34.180 grant funding for for those. We also support fishing clubs 00:12:34.180 --> 00:12:37.640 and organizations both through grant funding and volunteer 00:12:37.640 --> 00:12:40.800 time, to host veteran and youth fishing trips. 00:12:40.800 --> 00:12:44.100 I've been fortunate enough to get out on a handful of these and it's always a 00:12:44.100 --> 00:12:47.340 rewarding experience to you know, see these people who might not 00:12:47.340 --> 00:12:52.160 be able to get out to the ocean or you know, just get out onto the water and 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.100 you know, see them smile and have a good time, 00:12:55.100 --> 00:12:57.440 and you know, experience all that the ocean has to offer. 00:12:59.920 --> 00:13:02.800 next slide, please. 00:13:04.620 --> 00:13:08.960 So, in addition to our conversations with anglers, we also conduct surveys 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:13.320 to let, learn better about you know, anglers' opinions and attitudes. 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:17.420 The results from these surveys provide insight into you know what motivates 00:13:17.420 --> 00:13:21.140 anglers, what characterizes a successful trip, and 00:13:21.140 --> 00:13:23.760 some preferred management objectives. 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:28.959 next slide, please. 00:13:30.640 --> 00:13:35.140 and as Chris mentioned, you know recreational fishing and other 00:13:35.140 --> 00:13:37.820 opportunities are really important to the economy. So, 00:13:37.820 --> 00:13:41.200 just some highlights for the latest stats 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:45.440 from 2017 shows that anglers in Washington took approximately 1.6 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:49.000 million saltwater fishing trips - so a really 00:13:49.000 --> 00:13:52.360 large number. And anglers spent over a billion dollars 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.320 on fishing-related trips and goods. And it just shows you, you know, how 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:59.420 valuable healthy recreational fishing opportunities are 00:13:59.420 --> 00:14:03.840 to the local economies. 00:14:05.920 --> 00:14:10.700 This is a figure also from our latest west coast snapshot that highlights 00:14:10.700 --> 00:14:14.660 catch of important species that are also important to 00:14:14.660 --> 00:14:19.180 Washington anglers. As you can see here, you know, black rockfish, you have your 00:14:19.180 --> 00:14:21.980 salmon, your albacore tuna, as well as Pacific 00:14:21.980 --> 00:14:26.100 halibut. And in total anglers caught almost 00:14:26.100 --> 00:14:31.840 376,000 of all those, just those five species. 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:37.280 next slide, please. 00:14:38.600 --> 00:14:43.140 So we'll touch on a few of the major species that you're likely to encounter 00:14:43.140 --> 00:14:47.160 fishing offshore on the sanctuary today, both salmon and rockfish. 00:14:47.160 --> 00:14:50.920 First up is salmon. There are seven different species of 00:14:50.920 --> 00:14:54.720 Pacific salmonids that occur along the outer coast of Washington: 00:14:54.720 --> 00:15:00.020 Chinook, coho, pink, sockeye, chum, and there's also sea-run, coastal 00:15:00.020 --> 00:15:04.480 cutthroat trout and steelhead. You know salmon lived for a number of 00:15:04.480 --> 00:15:07.220 years in the ocean and returned to rivers to spawn. 00:15:07.220 --> 00:15:10.580 Given their life cycle and challenges they've encountered over the years 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:13.840 some of their populations remain low and that's why it's important to be able to 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:16.080 identify the species that you're fishing for, 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:19.820 to know, you know, what species it is, whether it's a wild or hatchery fish, 00:15:19.820 --> 00:15:26.079 and we'll go over some of those identification tips next. 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:29.120 next slide, please. 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:38.600 So up first are our chinook and coho and, and again 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.240 you know, it's an important part of angler education 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:45.140 to be able to ID the species that you're fishing for. 00:15:45.140 --> 00:15:49.020 It's really essential, whether you're a veteran or a novice you know, it's always 00:15:49.020 --> 00:15:51.960 good to touch up on your identification as well. 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:55.860 These two here are typically your main salmon target species: 00:15:55.860 --> 00:15:59.860 chinook/king salmon and coho/silver salmon. 00:15:59.860 --> 00:16:03.980 And just to touch on some defining features here for when you're out 00:16:03.980 --> 00:16:06.720 fishing and again, these are in their marine 00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.840 phases so their marine coloration. 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.720 For Chinnok/King salmon: primarily you're going to be looking at 00:16:14.720 --> 00:16:19.440 that that dark black gum line. So their mouths are really 00:16:19.560 --> 00:16:23.340 really dark and that's the primary feature. 00:16:23.340 --> 00:16:27.780 Also their tails- they have spots on both the upper and lower lobes. 00:16:27.780 --> 00:16:31.820 You know its a really big fish that you're targeting, but primarily you're 00:16:31.820 --> 00:16:34.960 looking at the gum line - really black dark, also 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:39.360 dark mouth, with dark tongues and then some of the spotting on both the upper 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:43.080 and lower lobes. With coho/silver salmon they've got a 00:16:43.080 --> 00:16:46.340 little bit of a dark gum line on the outside, but when 00:16:46.340 --> 00:16:49.760 you actually look on the gums you know, where the teeth are, from the 00:16:49.760 --> 00:16:53.320 inside it's really white and they've got sort of medium-sized 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:57.520 sharp teeth as well, like, like chinook you know, really 00:16:57.520 --> 00:17:01.320 sharp teeth, but they only have spots on the upper 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:05.620 lobe of their tail. So you know, not a lot. There's some spotting 00:17:05.620 --> 00:17:10.720 on the back, some striations in the tail, 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:14.420 tail fin there, and they also have a wide caudal peduncle. 00:17:14.420 --> 00:17:17.580 So that's that area, flush,right, right before you get to the tail. 00:17:17.580 --> 00:17:22.400 But again, a white gum line and not as much spotting on the tail. 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:30.320 You're also likely to encounter pinks, more so in odd 00:17:30.320 --> 00:17:34.760 number years because they return typically every every two years. 00:17:34.860 --> 00:17:38.640 The mouth is white. but it it does have a black gum line. 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:43.100 And in marine areas where you're fishing, they almost have no teeth. So that's 00:17:43.100 --> 00:17:46.040 one of the defining features to you know. distinguish between 00:17:46.040 --> 00:17:49.960 pink and coho. And they also have really large oval spots 00:17:50.360 --> 00:17:55.640 on their tail and in both the upper and lower lobe. 00:17:55.640 --> 00:18:00.060 With chum salmon, their mouth is white with a white gum line, 00:18:00.060 --> 00:18:04.920 but they have really well-developed teeth. There's no markings on the tail. 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:09.560 So like, you know pink, they have those markings. Chum do not have the markings, 00:18:09.560 --> 00:18:13.300 they have a really narrow caudal peduncle, and sometimes they can have 00:18:13.300 --> 00:18:16.020 what's called calico markings or vertical bars 00:18:16.020 --> 00:18:18.240 along their back. 00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:30.620 And again, just to touch on you know, the primary features - you're looking at the 00:18:30.620 --> 00:18:33.700 jawlines whether it's a dark black gum or a white 00:18:33.700 --> 00:18:37.300 gum. And then for the tails, whether it's 00:18:37.300 --> 00:18:43.840 spotted or not. 00:18:50.700 --> 00:18:53.900 And it's also important to know whether the fish you're catching is 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:57.860 either a hatchery or a wild fish. There's often different regulations 00:18:57.860 --> 00:19:03.480 for both. Typically most hatchery fish are marked by the clipping of their 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.200 adipose fin. They're clipped right before they're 00:19:06.200 --> 00:19:08.440 released, when they're you know really small 00:19:08.440 --> 00:19:13.460 juveniles. That way anglers and fisheries managers can identify 00:19:13.460 --> 00:19:17.380 you know, where that whether that fish was a hatchery. 00:19:17.380 --> 00:19:22.100 They're also implemented with some coated wire tags so you can 00:19:22.100 --> 00:19:25.200 know, you know which hatchery the fish came from and whatnot. 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:29.060 But again, it's really important to know whether it's a hatchery fish or not 00:19:29.060 --> 00:19:33.840 with that adipose fin clipped because there's different regulations. 00:19:33.840 --> 00:19:39.020 Oftentimes you have to release wild fish and so you want to make sure you know 00:19:39.020 --> 00:19:41.740 the fish is not marked when you're keeping it. 00:19:46.240 --> 00:19:51.280 So this map highlights, so now we'll get into some rockfish in the sanctuary. 00:19:51.580 --> 00:19:55.940 Rockfish are a primary target in both the sanctuary and all along the west 00:19:55.940 --> 00:19:58.880 coast. This map highlights some areas of 00:19:58.880 --> 00:20:03.520 their habitat, areas of particular concern, but like their namesake 00:20:03.660 --> 00:20:07.200 you know you'll find them on the rocky reefs. There you've got that portion 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.020 in the north there, of really good fishing for rockfish off those 00:20:11.020 --> 00:20:14.140 reefs. Rockfish can also be found in 00:20:14.140 --> 00:20:18.740 seagrass, kelp canopies, and estuaries typically more so in the juvenile stage. 00:20:18.840 --> 00:20:21.840 But you can see those areas linked there. 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:27.640 But again, yeah, but primarily you'll be fishing them over rocky reefs 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:32.840 and the Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary has some fantastic reefs for 00:20:32.840 --> 00:20:35.840 fishing. 00:20:37.280 --> 00:20:40.159 next slide, please. 00:20:43.280 --> 00:20:48.300 So again touching on identification, there are a lot of different rockfish. 00:20:48.300 --> 00:20:51.320 Over I want to say, over 60 species of rockfish 00:20:51.320 --> 00:20:55.960 And so it's always important to touch up both on your identification, you know 00:20:55.960 --> 00:21:00.440 whether you're a novice or a veteran. So we'll highlight some that are you 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:03.540 know you're going to commonly encounter in the Olympic Coast National Marine 00:21:03.540 --> 00:21:06.380 Sanctuary. Black rockfish, those are probably the 00:21:06.500 --> 00:21:10.560 number one that you'll encounter. You'll target them near the 00:21:10.560 --> 00:21:14.600 bottom. They have that sort of gray-black 00:21:14.600 --> 00:21:17.760 body. Oftentimes they'll have dark stripes 00:21:17.760 --> 00:21:19.840 from the eye to the end of the gill plate. 00:21:20.420 --> 00:21:24.640 Yellowtail on the other hand, they're more of a midwater rockfish so found 00:21:24.700 --> 00:21:28.160 slightly up off the bottom. They have those sort of 00:21:28.260 --> 00:21:30.980 yellow fins and it's kind of hard to tell in this 00:21:30.980 --> 00:21:34.000 photo, but they'll have pale patches or spots near the top, 00:21:34.000 --> 00:21:37.040 sort of near their dorsal fin there. 00:21:43.140 --> 00:21:47.420 Widow rockfish is also another midwater rockfish species. So you'll encounter 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:51.100 those while you're fishing for yellowtail and again they're also common 00:21:51.100 --> 00:21:54.360 on the north north coast - targeting them out of Neah Bay 00:21:54.360 --> 00:21:58.520 and La Push. They can be identified by their dusty 00:21:58.600 --> 00:22:02.400 brown color. They've got a pretty small mouth as well. 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:07.100 Bocaccio, on the other hand, they have a really large mouth and 00:22:07.100 --> 00:22:11.040 that maxillary, the sort of jawline, that typically extends 00:22:11.040 --> 00:22:14.340 past well past the eye. They also sort of have an 00:22:14.340 --> 00:22:18.720 olive-brown, sort of orange-red body color. 00:22:26.780 --> 00:22:32.620 And Lingcod and Cabezon, those are also really important fish species that 00:22:32.620 --> 00:22:36.500 anglers primarily target and are highly sought after. Cabezon has 00:22:36.500 --> 00:22:40.940 that sort of marbled body coloration - a lot of those different colors mixed in. 00:22:40.940 --> 00:22:44.340 One of the primary identifying characteristics would be those little 00:22:44.340 --> 00:22:46.780 flaps of skin that are found above the eye. 00:22:46.780 --> 00:22:51.640 and like their nose, their snout area. Lingcod, they kind of also have that 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.660 sort of marbled coloration. They're pretty easily 00:22:55.660 --> 00:22:59.200 recognizable. They're a little lengthier, longer body, and they have really large 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.520 mouths and their teeth are also really sharp. 00:23:02.520 --> 00:23:05.980 so you know, don't grip them like you do with other rockfish. 00:23:05.980 --> 00:23:09.120 While you're grabbing them on the lip, gotta be pretty careful. 00:23:09.120 --> 00:23:12.840 And fun fact about Lingcod, they can actually have a blue flesh 00:23:12.840 --> 00:23:17.000 so when you, you know you're filleting it out open it'll be bright, bright blue 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:19.600 and kind of green but when you cook it 00:23:19.600 --> 00:23:22.160 the color actually goes away and the meat turns white like 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:24.380 typical rockfish fillets. 00:23:29.360 --> 00:23:34.380 Canary rockfish are also highly sought after. You'll notice a couple of 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.060 different color variations here, but they are actually genetically 00:23:38.060 --> 00:23:43.140 similar. Some rockfish show similar colorations, but are actually 00:23:43.140 --> 00:23:47.760 genetically distinct. One example of that are vermilion and 00:23:47.760 --> 00:23:51.040 sunset rockfish. Kind of look the same, but are are 00:23:51.220 --> 00:23:54.760 completely different species. And another example would kind of be 00:23:54.760 --> 00:23:58.720 like the blue and deacon rockfish. 00:23:59.600 --> 00:24:06.200 And deacon, now that you know, you can easily identify 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:10.200 blue and deacon from you know, other species, but 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:13.840 the distinguishing characteristics between those two are often pretty hard. 00:24:13.840 --> 00:24:17.480 And so you'll see fisheries management often just links 00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:22.140 those two species together. One thing to know for canary, they've got 00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:27.300 that light red-orange coloration and that really white-gray lateral line 00:24:27.300 --> 00:24:31.920 that goes along the whole entire body. Canary was overfished at one point, but 00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:36.660 it was rebuilt in 2015 and thanks to conservation efforts by 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:41.140 anglers like those that are listening, to using descending devices, and avoiding some of 00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:45.900 the areas that they're found in. You know, since 2015 WDFD has 00:24:45.900 --> 00:24:51.840 been slowly allowing increased retention. In 2019, that three fish sub-limit was 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:55.500 completely eliminated and now only the general rockfish bag 00:24:55.500 --> 00:25:01.840 limit applies. 00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:09.580 Here's the vermilion rockfish. They've got a really full body red color. 00:25:09.580 --> 00:25:11.580 Pretty neat. They can be pretty bright 00:25:11.600 --> 00:25:14.820 and then some, some mottled black coloration there. 00:25:14.820 --> 00:25:17.440 On the top, they can also be lighter red as well, 00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:22.400 but those are really highly sought after, especially down here in California 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.760 where I'm from. There's also copper rockfish that 00:25:25.760 --> 00:25:29.560 are pretty commonly encountered. They've got that sort of brown-orange 00:25:29.560 --> 00:25:31.940 -yellow coloration, but you'll notice that sort of light 00:25:31.940 --> 00:25:34.760 coloration on the last two-thirds of the lateral line. 00:25:34.760 --> 00:25:38.400 That is one of the distinguishing characteristics. They are really tough 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:40.560 rockfish that can stay alive on the deck for 00:25:40.560 --> 00:25:44.260 quite some time or if you have them in the gummy sack. So just be careful 00:25:44.260 --> 00:25:48.080 because their spines can hurt and they're really lively fish. So just be 00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:51.280 careful when you're handling them. 00:25:54.580 --> 00:25:58.800 And then last we'll cover here is yelloweye rockfish. So, 00:25:58.800 --> 00:26:02.700 yelloweye rockfish are among the longest-lived species of rockfish - living 00:26:02.860 --> 00:26:06.200 up to 150 years. And the Puget Sound population of yellow 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:09.860 eye are listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act and 00:26:09.860 --> 00:26:13.520 in marine waters, yelloweye rockfish is under an MSA rebuilding plan 00:26:13.540 --> 00:26:16.880 and so you're not allowed to retain yelloweye rockfish in all of 00:26:16.880 --> 00:26:20.840 Washington waters. It's prohibited. So, these fish have to be released but 00:26:20.840 --> 00:26:24.760 you know, thanks to again to all your conservation efforts, using descending 00:26:24.760 --> 00:26:25.919 devices, avoiding areas where they're typically 00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:30.240 found, their population is rebuilding. 00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:35.220 Some of the identifying features for these is 00:26:35.220 --> 00:26:38.660 you know, like their namesake that the yelloweye. So you'll find a bright 00:26:38.660 --> 00:26:41.780 yellow eye. Their fins are, are sometimes lined with 00:26:41.780 --> 00:26:45.900 black edges. For juveniles they're a little redder in 00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:50.159 color and they also have one to two white stripes 00:26:50.580 --> 00:26:53.840 down their body. 00:27:00.840 --> 00:27:05.960 So here's just some other rockfish id links and resources... 00:27:05.960 --> 00:27:11.640 There's also an id quiz by ODF&W. So, if you want to test your id 00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.240 skills you can check out that website. 00:27:16.560 --> 00:27:21.840 next slide, please. 00:27:23.500 --> 00:27:27.260 And so you know why do we need to know these species types well. It's important 00:27:27.260 --> 00:27:28.380 to know the species you're catching are from 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.660 you know, healthy stocks and whether they're legal to keep, and if they're not 00:27:31.660 --> 00:27:32.920 you have to release them back into the ocean. 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:38.080 But for rockfish, they have swim bladders and when you bring up to the surface 00:27:38.080 --> 00:27:41.880 they can suffer from what's called barotrauma or pressure shock. 00:27:42.540 --> 00:27:45.400 Their swim bladder expands like, like a balloon. 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:49.660 And you know when you try to release them, you can't send them back down. And 00:27:49.660 --> 00:27:51.540 you know, if you can't keep the fish - 00:27:51.540 --> 00:27:55.700 if it's you know, yelloweye or you've reached your limit and you want to throw it back 00:27:55.700 --> 00:27:57.780 those fish would just end up floating 00:27:57.780 --> 00:28:01.420 on the surface and succumbing to the effects of barotrauma. 00:28:01.420 --> 00:28:03.820 Often times you know you have seagulls hanging around the boat or 00:28:03.940 --> 00:28:06.920 or sea lions even and so then they'll just get eaten. 00:28:07.460 --> 00:28:10.760 Instead, you can safely release them back out in the ocean. 00:28:10.760 --> 00:28:15.200 And to do this, to do that, you use what's called descending devices. 00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:18.320 next slide, please, 00:28:22.140 --> 00:28:24.800 So again you can't just toss them back because of the large amount of air in 00:28:24.980 --> 00:28:28.300 their swim bladder. And so, the best way is to use these 00:28:28.300 --> 00:28:31.660 descending devices. They're non-invasive. You hook them onto their lip 00:28:31.660 --> 00:28:35.960 and you get them back down to depth. So, so we want you to release them back down 00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:39.200 to where you're fishing. So if you're fishing out 200 feet try and get them 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:41.920 down, back down to 200 feet. In some instances 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:43.800 you can't get them all the way back down, 00:28:43.840 --> 00:28:48.860 but just try and release them as far and deep as possible. 00:28:48.860 --> 00:28:52.140 You know, if they shoot back up to the surface, then you're obviously not 00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:56.140 releasing them deep enough. You get them back down far enough, 00:28:56.200 --> 00:28:59.340 oftentimes they can swim back down on their own. 00:28:59.340 --> 00:29:03.600 One thing is, is to not vent the fish by puncturing the swim bladder. 00:29:03.600 --> 00:29:06.960 That can lead to infection and mortality. So your best bet is using these 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:12.100 these devices. Everyone fishing for rockfish and halibut in Washington 00:29:12.100 --> 00:29:16.200 are required to have a descending device on their onboard their vessel. 00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:20.140 These right here are commercially available. You know you can purchase 00:29:20.140 --> 00:29:23.340 them online. From left to right that's the Shelton, 00:29:23.340 --> 00:29:27.480 SeaQuilizer, and RokLees. I'm not showing it, is also the Black 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:33.120 Tip. You can also make your own. So, 00:29:34.540 --> 00:29:37.660 you can use an inverted hook you know, with the leadhead 00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:41.840 filed down/ the barbed hook so the fish can slide off easily. 00:29:43.360 --> 00:29:46.400 next slide, please. 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:54.460 So these are showing some examples of ways that you can make one. 00:29:54.460 --> 00:29:58.560 Also, there's the milk crate method. So you get a milk crate you know, turn it 00:29:58.560 --> 00:30:01.600 upside down. Attach some dive weights to it and zip 00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.800 tie them, and that way you can just throw the crate over the top of the fish. 00:30:04.980 --> 00:30:07.500 You get quite a few underneath and then you know, 00:30:07.500 --> 00:30:09.480 again dropping them back down to the appropriate 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.800 depth and just pulling the crate or the hook back up. 00:30:16.580 --> 00:30:18.640 next slide, please. 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:24.520 So, in addition to the descending devices you know there's other 00:30:24.600 --> 00:30:27.780 methods that have been employed for recovering overfished rockfish 00:30:27.800 --> 00:30:30.740 and that is closed areas. So on the Washington coast 00:30:30.740 --> 00:30:35.180 there's a few yellow-eyed rockfish conservation areas. 00:30:35.180 --> 00:30:38.540 You know they're created to prohibit retention of rockfish and 00:30:38.540 --> 00:30:42.180 you know, really minimize interactions with, with yelloweye that are found 00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:46.740 commonly in these areas. There's also depth restrictions. You know you can't 00:30:46.740 --> 00:30:50.559 fish past, I believe 20 fathoms at certain times of the year. 00:30:51.080 --> 00:30:55.600 But the efforts to avoid these areas, to use descending devices, 00:30:55.600 --> 00:31:00.060 is paying off for anglers. So, now that the rockfish populations are recovering 00:31:00.060 --> 00:31:03.460 because of these efforts, these restrictions are being relaxed and 00:31:03.460 --> 00:31:07.080 so while not yet finalized, we're likely to see some 00:31:07.080 --> 00:31:10.920 relaxations in the 2021 and 2022 season regulations. 00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:15.140 That might include opening of the Washington south coast and Westport 00:31:15.140 --> 00:31:19.560 yellow-eyed rockfish conservation areas as well as a shortening of the timing of 00:31:19.560 --> 00:31:21.860 the, the twenty-fathom depth restriction 00:31:21.860 --> 00:31:26.720 in marine area four where the Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary is found. 00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:36.740 Pacific halibut is also a highly sought after species. 00:31:36.900 --> 00:31:41.180 In the sanctuary, it's managed in both an international and domestic forum. 00:31:41.540 --> 00:31:45.100 There's a large number of anglers that target halibut and 00:31:45.100 --> 00:31:49.000 a relatively smaller size allowable catch means that the seasons can be 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.000 pretty short. So here, here's the proposed season 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:59.540 for the upcoming north coast area. And you also see there Jeremy Jording. He's 00:31:59.540 --> 00:32:02.200 our NOAA Fisheries Washington RecFish 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:06.340 rep there with a nice Pacific halibut. So you can find 00:32:06.340 --> 00:32:12.840 the finalized seasons on Pacific halibut on the WDFW website when that becomes available. 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:25.180 And while not federally managed, I also want to highlight the Pacific razor 00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:28.800 clam, because that's really sought after. You know it's not unusual to have a 00:32:28.800 --> 00:32:32.480 thousand people come out on a nice spring weekend day, you know, all you 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.000 need is a clam shovel, a bucket to put your clams in, and you 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.600 know, most importantly also your clam license. 00:32:39.600 --> 00:32:42.740 Just be sure to check the regulations before heading out. 00:32:42.740 --> 00:32:46.160 During certain times of the year toxins can be found in the clams, 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.260 but WDFW does work with the Washington Department of Fish 00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:53.560 or of Health to sample clams, and you know make sure they're 00:32:53.560 --> 00:32:57.840 they're healthy to take during the season. 00:33:03.460 --> 00:33:05.740 next side, please. 00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:12.120 So, just some other additional fishing information. Charter vessels, they run 00:33:12.120 --> 00:33:14.440 out of four main ports in the Olympic Coast. 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:18.100 Neah Bay, Seiku, La Push, and Westport targeting all 00:33:18.100 --> 00:33:21.460 the species we, we just talked about. I believe Neah Bay 00:33:21.540 --> 00:33:23.860 and La Push are currently closed. So just be sure 00:33:23.860 --> 00:33:28.680 to look online before you head out. The Olympic Coast National Marine Sanctuary 00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.560 encompasses WDFW’s Marine areas four, three, and 00:33:32.560 --> 00:33:36.560 parts of two. So, you can find regulations on there and we also have it 00:33:36.560 --> 00:33:39.840 linked in, as a pdf, into the 00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:44.580 the presentation here, so you can access that there if you're you're online right 00:33:44.580 --> 00:33:49.520 now. And also for, for charter fishing 00:33:49.520 --> 00:33:53.960 you know that's something that everyone can go on and jump on. 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:57.260 The captains are knowledgeable and they'll take you directly to fishing 00:33:57.260 --> 00:34:00.200 spots and you know you have crew that can be there 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.200 to help you bait your hook or tell you how to catch certain fish. 00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:07.020 And so it's really ideal for the new angler. 00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:12.820 This just gives you a general idea of the typical fishing speed, 00:34:12.820 --> 00:34:15.940 uh seasons for the species we talked about today. 00:34:15.940 --> 00:34:20.840 Those larger x's denote the sort of time when you're more likely 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:24.400 to encounter this species. Bottom fish you can fish them year-round 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:30.080 but primarily you're targeting them March to October. Pacific halibut, that 00:34:30.080 --> 00:34:33.400 season typically starts in May, but as we've seen this year you know, 00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:36.280 it's starting in August. and then chinook, you're typically 00:34:36.340 --> 00:34:40.160 fishing for those late spring through summer. 00:34:46.500 --> 00:34:49.680 And again here's some link to some other resources. 00:34:49.680 --> 00:34:53.120 These sites contain instructional videos, regulations, 00:34:53.120 --> 00:34:57.600 places to fish and you know how we manage fish populations. 00:34:57.780 --> 00:35:01.300 So, some other some resources there for salmon, 00:35:01.300 --> 00:35:04.800 groundfish/ rockfish, and also crab as well. 00:35:10.420 --> 00:35:11.800 next slide, please. 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:21.600 and so there's our contact information. That has our NOAA fisheries website and then also 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:26.240 contact for myself as well as the RecFish Washington rep for NOAA fisheries, 00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:29.360 Jeremy Jording, and also our contact information is also 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:34.240 online as well. So, feel free to contact me with any questions. 00:35:39.340 --> 00:35:43.920 Okay, great! Well, thank you so much Daniel. And I think we're going to have a moment 00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:45.860 to be able to talk to Ben Maxson who's 00:35:45.860 --> 00:35:49.340 here. Before we do though, we want to point out 00:35:49.460 --> 00:35:52.540 a video, that we're going to put a link into the chat box, 00:35:52.540 --> 00:35:55.540 and we're also/I'm going to try to show it here right now, 00:35:55.540 --> 00:35:57.140 but thanks, Daniel. 00:35:57.140 --> 00:35:59.140 If everyone just want to hold on a minute when we get 00:35:59.140 --> 00:36:02.960 over to Ben. -Awesome, thank you so much 00:36:03.680 --> 00:36:07.840 Pull hard, reel, reel, reel. 00:36:10.080 --> 00:36:14.540 So, we've been out seeing and doing a little rockfish with Windsong Charters. 00:36:14.540 --> 00:36:17.200 We're just excited to be out here. We have a great group. 00:36:17.200 --> 00:36:20.120 We've been to the Cape Flattery Trail, We've done a circle around Tatoosh 00:36:20.120 --> 00:36:22.600 Island. We've been able to put a couple rock 00:36:22.600 --> 00:36:26.120 fish in the boat as well and have a beautiful sunrise. 00:36:26.120 --> 00:36:28.620 [Music] 00:36:29.380 --> 00:36:33.280 My name is Ben Maxson and I'm the Manager and skipper of Windsong Charters. 00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:37.500 I get the opportunity to work on a great vessel. We have two different boats that 00:36:37.500 --> 00:36:40.580 we run on the Pacific Ocean and the Strait of Juan de Fuca. 00:36:40.580 --> 00:36:44.360 We do everything from sightseeing, to halibut, salmon, bottomfish, 00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:47.740 and just getting people out and enjoying the ocean and the great 00:36:47.740 --> 00:36:50.460 outdoors. This is a special place! This is the 00:36:50.460 --> 00:36:54.200 continental northwest tip. So, many people come to the Cape 00:36:54.200 --> 00:36:58.520 Flattery Trail, the rain forests, the mountains, the greenery, the ocean. 00:36:58.520 --> 00:37:03.120 The orcas come through three or four times a year. We do get to see humpback 00:37:03.120 --> 00:37:06.540 whales as well as your sea lions, your sea otters, your harbor seals, 00:37:06.540 --> 00:37:10.840 on top of all your fish species. So it's just great to see the marine life. 00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:14.880 It's just beautiful. I don't think you could ask for a prettier place. 00:37:16.580 --> 00:37:19.800 Okay, give me the cameras, I'll snap and click. 00:37:20.020 --> 00:37:23.020 Say happy, happy, happy! -Happy, happy, happy! 00:37:31.140 --> 00:37:37.720 [camera clicking and music] 00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:51.840 Just a great day on Windsong Charters. 00:37:52.580 --> 00:37:57.440 Daniel, are you able to hear me? This is Ben. - Hey Ben. Yeah, I can hear you. 00:37:57.680 --> 00:37:59.784 Wonderful. That's, that's quite a picture. 00:37:59.784 --> 00:38:02.640 We should have probably got one of me on a boat, I guess. 00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:07.360 -Oh, I know, right. We got the video up and, and linked to the video. So, I..hear you. 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.800 - So there you go. Hi Nicole, great to see you again as well. 00:38:11.560 --> 00:38:12.120 -Hi Ben. 00:38:12.500 --> 00:38:17.500 -[chuckles] So, Daniel, I don't know if you have a couple questions that you want to ask 00:38:17.580 --> 00:38:19.320 or if you want me just to tell you about 00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:21.100 what I love getting out into the ocean 00:38:21.100 --> 00:38:22.500 and into the sanctuary? 00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:24.520 -That sounds perfect, yeah, perfect. Thanks, Ben. 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.740 So, yeah I have the privilege to owner and operate 00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:36.380 well, work with Windsong Charters and I absolutely love to be on the water. 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:41.100 You know, I tell everyone, I fish with young kids all the way up to 00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:44.200 seniors, and there is nothing more special than 00:38:44.300 --> 00:38:46.620 seeing a five-year-old catch their first fish 00:38:46.620 --> 00:38:51.960 or seeing as a 75-year-old catch maybe they're 2,000th fish 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.080 but you know, when I was talking to Jacqueline the other day, 00:38:56.080 --> 00:38:59.640 my most favorite days are when we're pulling up to the fishing spot 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.380 which most of you know we summer fish, 00:39:02.520 --> 00:39:07.380 we head to the Swiftsure Bank, out to some of the popular blue dots/ 72 square 00:39:07.520 --> 00:39:10.000 and when the humpback whales are, are in. 00:39:10.380 --> 00:39:14.780 And you'll pull up and it's frequent to have 100 plus 00:39:14.780 --> 00:39:18.820 whales feeding and enjoying the sunrise. 00:39:19.260 --> 00:39:22.240 And so one of the things that I try to tell everyone, 00:39:22.300 --> 00:39:24.360 the ocean just isn't for fishermen. 00:39:24.540 --> 00:39:28.920 The ocean is for those that love saltwater, the smell of saltwater. 00:39:29.120 --> 00:39:30.840 By golly, it's just a beautiful thing. 00:39:31.080 --> 00:39:33.640 Or, or the sunrise and sunsets. 00:39:33.640 --> 00:39:37.340 As many of us know, are just majestic and so special. 00:39:38.060 --> 00:39:40.560 The marine life is incredible. 00:39:40.820 --> 00:39:42.500 I always try to spot sea otters on the way out, 00:39:42.600 --> 00:39:45.260 harbor seals, sea lions, California sea lions, 00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.420 you know, and then we typically see 00:39:48.420 --> 00:39:50.640 of your three species, orcas, 00:39:50.640 --> 00:39:52.240 you know, seem to come through monthly. 00:39:52.720 --> 00:39:54.260 And then your humpbacks 00:39:54.260 --> 00:39:58.340 I wouldn't say they're resident, but they sure seem like it. 00:39:58.600 --> 00:39:59.960 and then we have our grays. 00:40:00.340 --> 00:40:03.200 So, favorite fish for me to catch. 00:40:03.480 --> 00:40:05.700 Last year was my first year 00:40:05.700 --> 00:40:06.520 being able to fish tuna 00:40:06.700 --> 00:40:07.620 out of Westport. 00:40:07.620 --> 00:40:09.080 Out of Neah Bay, I'm sorry. 00:40:09.080 --> 00:40:11.680 Normally, I've gone down to Westport to fish tuna. 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:12.340 00:40:12.340 --> 00:40:17.420 and so the joy of catching tuna out of my home port was fantastic. 00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:17.920 00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:18.500 00:40:18.500 --> 00:40:22.100 So a new favorite for me is, is tuna. 00:40:22.240 --> 00:40:24.680 The standard for me is 00:40:24.680 --> 00:40:27.340 I'll take a a fantastic chinook 00:40:27.340 --> 00:40:28.980 when it's 300 feet 00:40:29.060 --> 00:40:30.220 deep off the downrigger. 00:40:30.220 --> 00:40:33.080 Like, when you’re fishing that blue dot or 72 square. 00:40:33.580 --> 00:40:35.300 Or give me a halibut 00:40:35.460 --> 00:40:36.880 and 600 feet of water. 00:40:37.460 --> 00:40:40.860 So, we just love to get out. 00:40:40.980 --> 00:40:44.320 We, like I say, we fish all ages. 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:45.660 We have multiple boats. 00:40:45.660 --> 00:40:50.040 This isn't a, it's by no means is a sales pitch for Windsong, 00:40:50.060 --> 00:40:52.100 but I would love people to understand 00:40:52.220 --> 00:40:53.660 the coast is beautiful. 00:40:53.660 --> 00:40:55.540 And you highlighted it, from 00:40:55.580 --> 00:40:59.200 clamming and being on the beach to 00:40:59.740 --> 00:41:01.780 it seems like there's kind of a 00:41:01.780 --> 00:41:03.100 resurgence as well, and 00:41:03.100 --> 00:41:05.680 this is outside my 00:41:05.780 --> 00:41:07.280 you know, knowledge, but 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.080 kind of surfperch and bullheads 00:41:09.140 --> 00:41:11.180 are kind of coming back into 00:41:11.240 --> 00:41:13.000 an excitement of people just wanting 00:41:13.020 --> 00:41:14.900 to beach fish and pond fish 00:41:15.140 --> 00:41:17.540 and so by all means, 00:41:17.540 --> 00:41:20.200 I just want to encourage and I am very 00:41:20.300 --> 00:41:22.180 honored to be a part of this program 00:41:22.260 --> 00:41:25.140 and support you all to encourage 00:41:25.140 --> 00:41:28.460 people to get out and enjoy your sanctuary. 00:41:31.700 --> 00:41:32.420 -Thanks so much. 00:41:32.420 --> 00:41:34.215 That's a great description 00:41:34.215 --> 00:41:36.080 of fishing in the sanctuary 00:41:36.080 --> 00:41:36.580 and 00:41:36.580 --> 00:41:37.900 you know hearing about, you know 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.940 experience, all that other wildlife 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:41.120 while you're out there 00:41:41.120 --> 00:41:42.560 is you know it's pretty unique and 00:41:42.560 --> 00:41:45.180 that's a really neat thing. 00:41:45.320 --> 00:41:46.700 - So I was kind of waiting to 00:41:46.700 --> 00:41:47.620 hear you tell everyone why 00:41:47.820 --> 00:41:50.520 the Lingcod can have blue flesh 00:41:50.520 --> 00:41:52.240 prior to cooked and 00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:53.580 you didn't get into that 00:41:53.580 --> 00:41:55.320 huh, Daniel? 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.040 - Do you, do you know why Ben? 00:41:57.080 --> 00:41:58.220 I'm not an expert on that. 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:00.940 -So what I'm told is there's a different 00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:02.800 enzyme in their makeup. 00:42:03.540 --> 00:42:04.920 Yes, and, and Daniel is 00:42:04.940 --> 00:42:08.780 totally correct that these fish come out 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:10.980 anywhere from a neon blue 00:42:11.120 --> 00:42:13.260 to just a kind of a 00:42:13.260 --> 00:42:14.720 vibrant blue color. 00:42:14.720 --> 00:42:17.100 They cook down a perfectly white and 00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:19.020 they're, they're beautiful fish. 00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:22.260 So how about, 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.040 I also didn't hear a kind of fun fact. 00:42:25.120 --> 00:42:27.260 If, if you all would like to know 00:42:27.460 --> 00:42:29.540 they're becoming more and more common 00:42:29.540 --> 00:42:30.800 to be talked about and known about, 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:32.320 but in the same way, 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:35.640 your chinook salmon can be a very 00:42:35.700 --> 00:42:38.480 vibrant, red-colored meat, 00:42:38.500 --> 00:42:39.780 but I am a huge fan, 00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:40.940 and if you want to know 00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:41.900 what my favorite 00:42:41.900 --> 00:42:42.560 to eat fish is, 00:42:42.560 --> 00:42:44.640 it is a white chinook. 00:42:45.260 --> 00:42:48.700 And so I absolutely love white chinook. 00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:49.880 Have you all had them? 00:42:49.900 --> 00:42:51.620 Daniel or Nicole or Jacqueline? 00:42:52.620 --> 00:42:53.300 - Yeah 00:42:53.300 --> 00:42:55.260 -I don't think so. 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:58.140 - You're making me hungry... 00:42:58.140 --> 00:42:59.500 I'm ready to come out there right now 00:42:59.640 --> 00:43:01.000 and try to find some, so 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:02.360 - dinner time, right now 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:03.898 -That soon [chuckle] 00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:04.480 -Yeah. 00:43:05.420 --> 00:43:08.940 - So, there are only a couple distinctions 00:43:08.940 --> 00:43:10.220 that you can tell. 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.940 There's a couple of Makahs in my 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.000 my family lineage, 00:43:15.200 --> 00:43:16.840 that I've married into here 00:43:17.720 --> 00:43:19.720 who can tell you if it's a white chinook 00:43:19.820 --> 00:43:20.860 or if it's a red chinook 00:43:20.860 --> 00:43:22.040 before they're filleted, 00:43:22.080 --> 00:43:24.600 but most people, you have to fillet them open. 00:43:24.600 --> 00:43:27.400 and they're just, just, if you're listening to this 00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:29.140 this webinar/ podcast, 00:43:29.700 --> 00:43:32.320 the white chinook isn't something that's sold 00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:33.700 out there because there's no market. 00:43:33.700 --> 00:43:35.100 And typically people think 00:43:35.100 --> 00:43:37.600 that's different than what I'm associated to. 00:43:37.600 --> 00:43:38.900 But I can tell you the 00:43:38.900 --> 00:43:41.920 white chinook has a higher fat content 00:43:43.180 --> 00:43:46.900 and by golly, when they cook 00:43:47.060 --> 00:43:48.860 they come out that way... 00:43:48.940 --> 00:43:50.300 they're just beautiful. 00:43:50.300 --> 00:43:51.820 So I would encourage any and all of you, 00:43:52.020 --> 00:43:53.200 if you get a chance, 00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:56.260 I'm not trying to sell a white chinook... 00:43:57.420 --> 00:44:00.080 You, you would never know that you could ever go catch one, 00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:02.340 but I will tell you they are so fun . 00:44:02.700 --> 00:44:04.660 And when you fillet one open, 00:44:04.660 --> 00:44:07.220 and it's, people, won't believe you that it's salmon 00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.100 and it tastes so good. 00:44:09.100 --> 00:44:09.600 So. 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.780 - What your favorite way to prepare that salmon? 00:44:15.060 --> 00:44:17.800 - By golly, I have, I love to cook. 00:44:18.900 --> 00:44:21.060 So on the side, I am 00:44:21.160 --> 00:44:23.840 I am a backyard. In fact, my wife and I own a food truck 00:44:23.940 --> 00:44:25.940 if that gives you any indication. 00:44:26.780 --> 00:44:29.100 So, ah let's see... 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:30.720 ah 00:44:31.120 --> 00:44:33.220 for salmon, I'm so simple. 00:44:33.780 --> 00:44:35.960 I throw it on, on a barbecue. 00:44:36.520 --> 00:44:38.200 It has to be charcoal. 00:44:38.200 --> 00:44:39.800 You know it has to be lump charcoal. 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:44.820 And I'm pretty simple: lemon pepper, some salt, 00:44:44.820 --> 00:44:48.100 and then I like a little dill on my salmon. 00:44:48.420 --> 00:44:49.760 I could give you a couple 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:51.880 recipes for your other species 00:44:51.980 --> 00:44:54.260 that are kind of fun though, if you're interested? 00:44:54.260 --> 00:44:55.400 So halibut. 00:44:55.600 --> 00:44:57.800 We have started eating 00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.500 halibut where I prepare equal parts, 00:45:01.540 --> 00:45:03.100 if you're ready? 00:45:03.100 --> 00:45:05.840 parmesan cheese and pesto 00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:07.460 mixed together. 00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:10.180 You take your halibut filet, 00:45:10.180 --> 00:45:13.260 you put it in a broil rack on aluminum foil, 00:45:13.540 --> 00:45:16.460 you put the parmesan and the pesto on it. 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:17.340 You bake it 00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:19.420 for 15 to 20 minutes 00:45:20.060 --> 00:45:23.100 and then fresh chopped pine nuts on top. 00:45:23.640 --> 00:45:24.140 So, 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:26.980 here's my my other favorite halibut, 00:45:27.220 --> 00:45:29.060 if you guys want another halibut dish 00:45:29.120 --> 00:45:29.900 that's incredible. 00:45:29.900 --> 00:45:32.840 And I'm gonna ruin my family for this 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:36.360 just by telling you all because you need to go try it, okay? 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:37.380 So 00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:39.460 it's as simple as going to your local 00:45:39.620 --> 00:45:41.820 Costco, which is much closer for you guys 00:45:41.820 --> 00:45:45.160 than it is for me - a solid two hours away. 00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:48.080 You get the, the cheddar bay biscuit mix. 00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:49.620 You all know what I'm talking about? 00:45:50.240 --> 00:45:51.000 - Yeah. 00:45:51.240 --> 00:45:52.980 Take your cheddar bay biscuit mix. 00:45:52.980 --> 00:45:55.760 Mix it up straight as it says. 00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:58.000 Throw it in a 9 x 12, 00:45:58.120 --> 00:46:00.680 greased nine by 12 pan. 00:46:00.680 --> 00:46:03.340 Cut your halibut into one by one chunks. 00:46:03.500 --> 00:46:06.380 Set the halibut into the cheddar bay biscuit. 00:46:06.600 --> 00:46:07.260 Bake it. 00:46:07.580 --> 00:46:08.820 Two minutes before it's done, 00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:12.500 you put the butter with all the garlic and the seasoning on top of it. 00:46:12.500 --> 00:46:13.880 Put it back in the oven 00:46:13.880 --> 00:46:15.520 and it comes out like a one-dish 00:46:15.580 --> 00:46:19.160 where you're scooping cheddar bay biscuit with halibut 00:46:19.240 --> 00:46:22.060 with garlic and butter and it's incredible. 00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:24.495 - That sounds amazing. 00:46:24.500 --> 00:46:25.460 -That sounds amazing and 00:46:25.460 --> 00:46:27.700 it's funny as we're also doing a "Get Into Your Sanctuary" 00:46:27.700 --> 00:46:28.900 cooking demonstration 00:46:28.900 --> 00:46:31.040 and if I had known all these great recipes you're going to 00:46:31.040 --> 00:46:33.860 share, I would have had you come to that as well, Ben. 00:46:33.900 --> 00:46:34.400 So, thank you. 00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.840 Before we switch over, Ben did you want to talk about 00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:40.140 how you do safe release on your vessel? 00:46:40.500 --> 00:46:41.280 The Windsong? -Oh, absolutely 00:46:42.120 --> 00:46:46.180 So, we do carry the standard descending device 00:46:46.180 --> 00:46:50.600 that is calibratable to 100, 200, 300 foot depths 00:46:50.600 --> 00:46:53.000 because we fish the full water column. 00:46:53.860 --> 00:46:57.000 And depending on which vessel we're on, 00:46:57.000 --> 00:46:59.703 so, if you're on a six-pack boat, 00:46:59.703 --> 00:47:01.920 typically we just run the descending device 00:47:02.060 --> 00:47:04.960 with a two-pound lead, 00:47:05.560 --> 00:47:07.760 on a, on a halibut rod 00:47:07.940 --> 00:47:10.180 and we just drop it right back down to the bottom 00:47:10.340 --> 00:47:12.100 or when it naturally releases. 00:47:13.180 --> 00:47:15.780 On the Windsong, when we're fishing 16 people, 00:47:16.160 --> 00:47:17.220 I, I cheat. 00:47:17.220 --> 00:47:19.460 I have to tell you sometimes 00:47:19.460 --> 00:47:22.440 it gets so busy, I run a 10-pound cannonball 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:24.440 and I put two fish in 00:47:24.460 --> 00:47:25.820 each descending device and 00:47:25.820 --> 00:47:27.760 I run them on my Scotty downriggers. 00:47:28.100 --> 00:47:32.200 So, quick plug to a Scotty 2106 high speed, 00:47:32.700 --> 00:47:34.300 they work awesome! 00:47:34.300 --> 00:47:36.340 And yeah, you drop the thing down 00:47:36.340 --> 00:47:38.100 to the bottom, you bring it back up 00:47:38.160 --> 00:47:40.740 automatic, and you're ready to send the next ones. 00:47:41.560 --> 00:47:42.540 -That sounds great. 00:47:43.240 --> 00:47:46.060 Well, thank you so much, Ben, for joining us 00:47:46.060 --> 00:47:47.560 And Daniel I'm going to let you and 00:47:47.620 --> 00:47:50.340 Nicole, I think, go on to maybe a few of your surveys. 00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:53.440 But Ben, I hope we can come out and see you soon. 00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.520 I hope you stay safe out there in Neah Bay. 00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:58.000 And we appreciate the fishing stories 00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:00.340 and I'm definitely am very hungry right now, 00:48:00.340 --> 00:48:02.480 so we're going to have you come back. - Thank you so much 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:04.800 and next year, I'll come cook when we 00:48:04.820 --> 00:48:06.480 do this again. [chuckles] 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:08.560 - Thanks so much, Ben. 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:15.520 So, we've got a couple quick id quizzes here, 00:48:15.520 --> 00:48:17.380 if we have some time to maybe do 00:48:17.380 --> 00:48:19.100 one or two, um? 00:48:25.040 --> 00:48:26.400 -Yes, we do. 00:48:26.780 --> 00:48:27.280 - Perfect. 00:48:28.700 --> 00:48:34.540 So, what is this fish: chinook, coho, pink? 00:48:36.640 --> 00:48:39.160 and remember that the characteristics 00:48:39.160 --> 00:48:39.760 you're looking at 00:48:40.580 --> 00:48:41.520 gum lines, 00:48:42.120 --> 00:48:43.180 spotting on the tail. 00:48:43.180 --> 00:48:45.140 I know its a kind of pulled back shot 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:45.940 um 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:50.800 What is your best guess? 00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.520 - Okay, so I'm gonna give you guys another 00:48:54.680 --> 00:48:57.060 just another few seconds to look at 00:48:57.060 --> 00:48:58.780 this picture and then I'm going to go ahead 00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:00.000 and launch the poll. 00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.460 You should see that and you can choose 00:49:02.520 --> 00:49:03.120 your best guess. 00:49:03.120 --> 00:49:05.860 So, hopefully, you've got a good look at those fish. 00:49:06.140 --> 00:49:07.680 You've looked at that gum line. 00:49:07.680 --> 00:49:08.900 You've looked at those tails... 00:49:09.820 --> 00:49:12.120 and here is our first poll. 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:15.220 So, what was that fish you guys saw? 00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:16.060 chinook? 00:49:16.200 --> 00:49:16.980 or coho? 00:49:22.640 --> 00:49:24.460 All right, the votes are coming in. 00:49:26.120 --> 00:49:28.960 You provided some good information there, Daniel. 00:49:31.220 --> 00:49:35.140 I'm going to give you guys just about five more seconds 00:49:35.140 --> 00:49:38.220 to see if you want to get your answers in there. 00:49:39.740 --> 00:49:43.180 Okay and I am going to go ahead and close the poll. 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.740 And it looks like for this first quiz, 00:49:46.740 --> 00:49:49.560 69 percent said Chinook. 00:49:50.860 --> 00:49:52.480 - Awesome, so yeah its chinook. 00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:54.700 I know it's kind of hard to tell pulled back, but 00:49:54.700 --> 00:49:58.340 they've got really, you know, distinct black gums there. 00:49:58.700 --> 00:50:01.720 And then there's some spotting on the, the fish 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:05.760 fish's tail there on both the upper and lower lobes. 00:50:08.180 --> 00:50:10.520 You want to aim for one more salmon id quiz? 00:50:10.520 --> 00:50:11.940 -Yeah, let's do one more. 00:50:12.260 --> 00:50:12.760 Awesome. 00:50:15.060 --> 00:50:16.740 So, how about this one? 00:50:19.540 --> 00:50:22.080 I've got that silver-green back there, 00:50:22.080 --> 00:50:22.800 look at the tail... 00:50:26.120 --> 00:50:28.540 - All right. I'm gonna give them another 00:50:28.640 --> 00:50:30.300 couple seconds there to look at the 00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:32.940 picture and then I'm gonna launch that poll. 00:50:32.940 --> 00:50:34.360 So, hopefully, you guys got 00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:35.677 a good look at those fish, 00:50:35.680 --> 00:50:37.500 you know what you're gonna choose... 00:50:38.720 --> 00:50:42.600 Here's your second poll. What is that fish? Is it a coho? 00:50:42.660 --> 00:50:43.440 or a chum? 00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:49.920 All right, the votes are flying in. 00:50:58.520 --> 00:51:02.500 All right. Looks like I'm gonna give you guys about five more seconds. 00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:04.200 Try and get those votes in. 00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:11.500 Okay, and I am going to close the poll. 00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.880 And it looks like 63 percent stay coho. 00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.280 -Okay, so, its coho, so it kind of 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.280 again, kind of hard to tell, but really white gum line there 00:51:21.580 --> 00:51:24.280 and then there's not as much spotting on the tail. 00:51:25.500 --> 00:51:28.520 So, if you can see the tail, it's pretty free from, from spots, 00:51:28.520 --> 00:51:31.420 there's also kind of some, some striations around the tail, 00:51:31.420 --> 00:51:34.160 which is another distinct feature. 00:51:36.260 --> 00:51:39.660 Awesome. So, maybe we shoot over to rockfish id quiz 00:51:40.140 --> 00:51:41.120 number two? 00:51:41.600 --> 00:51:42.460 - Okay. 00:51:43.100 --> 00:51:45.160 So, let's get the first one there. 00:51:53.500 --> 00:51:54.600 - okay. 00:51:57.180 --> 00:52:00.200 So look at that picture guys because once the quiz comes up/ 00:52:00.200 --> 00:52:02.460 the poll, I don't think you get to see the picture. 00:52:02.460 --> 00:52:03.900 So get a good look at that fish. 00:52:05.500 --> 00:52:08.240 And now, I'm gonna launch the poll. 00:52:08.680 --> 00:52:10.320 So, which rockfish is this? 00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:11.480 Vermillion? 00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:12.380 or Tiger? 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.400 -So remember that really red body, 00:52:17.820 --> 00:52:20.520 a little bit of black mottling on the top, 00:52:22.640 --> 00:52:24.880 that bright red when you pull them out. 00:52:28.780 --> 00:52:30.200 All right, votes are coming in. 00:52:30.540 --> 00:52:33.380 I'm gonna give you guys just about five more seconds. 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.340 Get your votes in 00:52:36.900 --> 00:52:39.640 and we're gonna close the poll. 00:52:39.640 --> 00:52:41.920 And this one looks like 76 percent 00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:44.800 say vermillion. -So vermillion. 00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:46.760 So, tiger rockfish, they are kind of red, 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.780 but they have red and white stripes 00:52:48.860 --> 00:52:51.300 throughout. So if you do encounter a tiger that's 00:52:51.300 --> 00:52:52.460 what they look like. 00:52:52.460 --> 00:52:54.600 Vermillion, they've got that really full-body red. 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:01.660 -Awesome. What do you think about taking a few questions, Daniel? 00:53:01.680 --> 00:53:04.700 We've had some come in through the presentation. - -Yeah that's fine. Ok. 00:53:05.040 --> 00:53:07.800 I'd love to get a few of these out here anyways. 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:08.380 -Yeah. 00:53:08.640 --> 00:53:10.680 Um, ok, so, 00:53:12.200 --> 00:53:14.060 Here's a good one 00:53:14.540 --> 00:53:18.420 Are all hatchery fishes fins trimmed? 00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:20.700 Including rainbow trout, raised 00:53:20.700 --> 00:53:21.740 from the hatcheries? 00:53:22.220 --> 00:53:24.980 Um, they, the person says they raise trout 00:53:24.980 --> 00:53:27.160 from the Filmore, California fish hatchery 00:53:27.160 --> 00:53:29.080 as part of the trout in the classroom program. 00:53:30.020 --> 00:53:32.180 Hmm. Interesting, yeah. 00:53:32.240 --> 00:53:35.320 So, so, not all hatchery fish 00:53:35.380 --> 00:53:37.080 are fin-clipped, I believe. 00:53:37.460 --> 00:53:40.200 Um, it just depends on what water body, 00:53:40.860 --> 00:53:42.520 what hatchery they're coming from, 00:53:42.520 --> 00:53:43.922 and, sort of, you know, 00:53:43.922 --> 00:53:46.360 what streams that they're going to be planted in. 00:53:46.460 --> 00:53:48.900 You know whether those streams 00:53:48.940 --> 00:53:50.020 connect to the ocean 00:53:50.120 --> 00:53:51.560 or whether they're lake plants. 00:53:51.560 --> 00:53:54.080 Along with rainbow trout, at least where I fish down here 00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:58.120 they're planted into high mountain streams, 00:53:58.120 --> 00:54:00.020 that don't connect to the ocean. 00:54:00.020 --> 00:54:01.340 They're planted in lakes. 00:54:01.480 --> 00:54:02.980 So, it just kinda depends. 00:54:04.420 --> 00:54:08.040 - Excellent. Ok, what about, 00:54:09.460 --> 00:54:12.840 what might happen to the fisheries 00:54:13.020 --> 00:54:14.700 up here in Olympic coast 00:54:14.700 --> 00:54:16.240 if there were a catastrophic 00:54:16.300 --> 00:54:17.640 loss of kelp forests? 00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:22.540 Hmm, well, that's a hard question. 00:54:23.140 --> 00:54:25.160 I guess a lot things, you know, 00:54:25.200 --> 00:54:29.900 everything's, you know, really inter-mixed. 00:54:30.140 --> 00:54:32.160 We have an ecosystem-based 00:54:32.160 --> 00:54:34.320 fisheries management plan on the West coast 00:54:34.500 --> 00:54:35.860 by the Council and they 00:54:35.860 --> 00:54:39.020 really take a look at that inter-relationship 00:54:39.020 --> 00:54:41.220 between all the different fish species. 00:54:41.580 --> 00:54:45.660 With kelp, fish, ah kelp forests, and canopies 00:54:45.660 --> 00:54:47.720 you know, that's a lot of inshore fish species. 00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:49.260 So you're looking at a lot of 00:54:49.260 --> 00:54:51.120 state-managed fisheries 00:54:51.120 --> 00:54:52.260 that I'm not too familiar with 00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:55.240 um. In my experience, 00:54:55.240 --> 00:54:57.700 down here in southern California 00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:59.860 we've had some urchin barrens 00:54:59.860 --> 00:55:01.160 come through and sorta wipeout 00:55:01.160 --> 00:55:02.760 some of the kelp and we've seen some 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:04.720 localized depletion of kelp mass 00:55:04.720 --> 00:55:06.120 and some other species that 00:55:06.140 --> 00:55:08.280 inhabit that, that habitat. 00:55:11.020 --> 00:55:12.980 but overall, I don't know about 00:55:12.980 --> 00:55:17.200 a complete life audit of a kelp forest. 00:55:17.200 --> 00:55:20.300 - Sounds good. Sorry, that was a hard question. [chuckles] 00:55:20.520 --> 00:55:22.780 So, this is interesting. 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.800 Which is the rockfish that's most 00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:26.740 often sold in grocery stores? 00:55:28.100 --> 00:55:30.640 Their most common commercial 00:55:30.680 --> 00:55:32.580 I guess, species for that? 00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:34.000 -Yeah, 00:55:34.340 --> 00:55:35.060 ummm 00:55:36.560 --> 00:55:38.420 I don't know of the top of my head. 00:55:38.420 --> 00:55:39.700 A lot of the times you'll see 00:55:40.080 --> 00:55:41.700 say just them just labeled as rockfish. 00:55:41.820 --> 00:55:43.840 and so some of these identification tips 00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.940 you know, might be helpful for 00:55:46.300 --> 00:55:48.220 ID'ing fish in the grocery store. 00:55:49.460 --> 00:55:51.440 They might label them red rockfish 00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:54.000 They'll sort of look like either vermillions, 00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:55.520 you can get canarys, 00:55:55.900 --> 00:55:56.700 ahhh 00:55:56.940 --> 00:55:59.340 Some of those sort of red-colored rockfish 00:55:59.500 --> 00:56:00.360 And like I mentioned, 00:56:00.420 --> 00:56:02.880 they're a ton of species. 00:56:03.020 --> 00:56:04.320 I would just ask the, 00:56:05.500 --> 00:56:07.360 the, whoever's behind the seafood counter 00:56:07.660 --> 00:56:08.714 ask them about, you know, 00:56:08.720 --> 00:56:09.960 what species is this? 00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:10.780 ah 00:56:11.100 --> 00:56:13.940 We also have some good resources on our website. 00:56:14.040 --> 00:56:15.640 If you go to fishwatch.gov, 00:56:15.640 --> 00:56:18.100 that has all the species that we manage, 00:56:18.100 --> 00:56:21.800 explains a little bit about you know the management, 00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:23.920 how healthy the stock is doing, 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:26.200 and there's even some recipes on there. 00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:30.300 So, fishwatch.gov if you're interested. 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:33.220 -Awesome and we did try and share all those links 00:56:33.220 --> 00:56:38.580 that Daniel had in his presentation in the chatbox too or question box. 00:56:38.640 --> 00:56:40.620 So hopefully, you guys all were able to 00:56:40.620 --> 00:56:44.360 grab those links for all that great information. 00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:48.460 Oh, you're muted, Jacqueline. 00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:52.180 Thank you. [chuckles] 00:56:52.780 --> 00:56:56.400 Okay, guys thank you so very very much for that great information. 00:56:56.400 --> 00:56:58.820 I know I learned a lot and so 00:56:59.360 --> 00:57:00.520 thank you, Daniel. 00:57:00.660 --> 00:57:01.500 Thank you, Ben 00:57:01.580 --> 00:57:03.320 and thank you, Nicole and Chris. 00:57:03.660 --> 00:57:05.940 And we can't wait to get into our sanctuary! 00:57:07.680 --> 00:57:10.540 Now, I just want to mention that while most of the events that we're doing 00:57:10.540 --> 00:57:12.100 for "Get Into Your Sanctuary" 00:57:12.180 --> 00:57:13.840 are being held virtually this year 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.540 in response to the health and safety concerns 00:57:16.540 --> 00:57:18.240 due to COVID- 19, 00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:20.660 and many of our visitors' centers are still closed, 00:57:21.200 --> 00:57:23.380 sanctuary waters and some access points 00:57:23.380 --> 00:57:24.960 have remained open for responsible use 00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:26.220 in accordance with the 00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:28.240 CDC guidance and local regulation. 00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:30.000 So, for more information 00:57:30.120 --> 00:57:31.340 on the response from 00:57:31.340 --> 00:57:33.300 NOAA's Office of National Marine Sanctuaries 00:57:33.340 --> 00:57:34.460 can be found on 00:57:34.460 --> 00:57:38.080 sanctuaries.noaa.gov forward slash coronavirus. 00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:47.300 And, you can also find more information 00:57:47.300 --> 00:57:50.400 on our website at olympiccoast.noaa.gov. 00:57:52.300 --> 00:57:54.280 So, if you do have a chance to get into 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:55.800 our national marine sanctuaries, 00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:57.240 please share your photos 00:57:57.240 --> 00:57:58.500 on social media 00:57:58.500 --> 00:58:01.400 and use the I love my sanctuary and 00:58:01.540 --> 00:58:03.740 recreate responsibility hashtags. 00:58:04.340 --> 00:58:06.280 And don't forget to check out our annual 00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:08.791 photo contest that's open until Labor Day. 00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:09.820 That's September 7th and 00:58:09.900 --> 00:58:14.520 that's at sanctuaries.noaa.gov forward slash photo.com, 00:58:14.680 --> 00:58:16.660 i'm sorry, photo dash contest. 00:58:20.600 --> 00:58:21.960 So, once again, 00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.160 I thank you so much, Daniel and Ben 00:58:24.220 --> 00:58:26.820 and Nicole and Chris 00:58:26.820 --> 00:58:29.180 and you can reach all of these folks at 00:58:29.180 --> 00:58:31.800 the addresses shown on this slide. 00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:34.000 If we did not get to your questions 00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:36.180 we'll try to email your question to the presenters 00:58:36.300 --> 00:58:38.800 and we'll try to get those answered in the next couple days. 00:58:39.220 --> 00:58:41.400 So, again thank you so much 00:58:41.500 --> 00:58:44.260 and please do get into our sanctuary 00:58:44.260 --> 00:58:46.000 and be safe 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:47.840 and thank you so much! 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:51.220 -Thank you! 00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:52.180 -Thanks, guys. 00:58:54.820 --> 00:58:58.200 - Thank you, everyone!