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Hi everybody my name is Hannah McDonald
and I work for national marine

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sanctuaries. Today I'm coming to you live
from the inner space center here at the

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University of Rhode Island. The rest of
the expedition team is onboard the

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research vessel 'Connecticut' off the
coast of Massachusetts. They are

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including Stellwagen Bank National
Marine Sanctuary staff as well as Woods

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Hole Oceanographic Institution
researchers exploring the sea floor of

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Stellwagen Bank National Marine
Sanctuary. They're looking at various

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ecosystems as well as shipwrecks that
lie in the sanctuary.

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Now the vessel they're operating on is
the research vessel 'Connecticut' owned

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and operated by the University of
Connecticut. The project that they're

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funding is provided from NOAA, or the
National Oceanic Atmospheric

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Administration, to Woods Hole
Oceanographic Institution. Now, they're

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being funded to perform state-of-the-art
marine research using the latest and

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greatest in marine technology
including remotely operated vehicles as

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well as cinematography-class cameras to
bring the seafloor directly to you. So

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they're sending their data and video
feeds up to a satellite to here at the

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interspace Center at the University of
Rhode Island and right

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to your screens. So with that, I want to
give you an overview of how this program

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works and how it's interactive. So you're
tuning in online: there's going to be a

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question box below you where you get to
submit any questions you have for our

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expedition team. Before the question and
answer session, I'm going to introduce

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you to all of the expedition team
players. So you get to submit your

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questions at any point in time and I'll
relay those to our team when it's time

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for them to answer. We're gonna bring the
entire team together at the end, so

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they'll all be ready and eager to answer
your questions. The first team player

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that I'm gonna introduce you to is Ben
Haskell, but before that, I'm gonna show

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you the introductory expedition video
that provides you a little bit more

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information about the entire project.

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842 square miles. Up to 600 feet deep:
enough to submerge the Seattle Space

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Needle. The final resting place of
hundreds of shipwrecks, and one of the

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top 10 whale watching destinations in
the world. Created in 1992, Stellwagen

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Bank National Marine Sanctuary lies 25
miles off the coast of Boston. It's home

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to a rich assortment of marine life,
including Atlantic cod, haddock, flounder,

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bluefin tuna, and many species of whales
including the critically endangered

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North Atlantic right whale. And all this
life attracts many visitors; over

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half-a-million whale watchers visit the
sanctuary each year. The crossroads of

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critical fishing grounds and shipping
routes for centuries, Stellwagen Bank

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National Marine Sanctuary also contains
vast numbers of shipwrecks ranging from

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wooden sailing ships to modern fishing
trawlers. These wrecks are both windows

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into the past and important habitats for
marine life. Stellwagen Bank sanctuary is

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one of 14 marine protected areas within
the National Marine Sanctuary system, a

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network encompassing more than 600,000
square miles of underwater parks.

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Managed by the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration, the

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sanctuaries promote responsible,
sustainable use of ocean and Great Lakes

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resources. They also serve to connect
people to the ocean so they can better

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understand its critical roles in climate
weather and human health. To foster that

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connection, NOAA awarded funding to Woods
Hole Oceanographic Institution, often

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referred to as WHOI, to conduct
state-of-the-art research. Based on

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nearby Cape Cod, WHOI is the world's
oldest and largest nonprofit ocean

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research and education institution. Using
tools and technologies pioneered at

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Woods Hole, we can bring live dives,
research, and exploration over the

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internet in real-time to you.

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Now as you may have picked up in
that video, Stellwagen Bank National

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Marine Sanctuary has a vast number of
shipwrecks. The shipwrecks are caused for

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a number of reasons, but one of those is
hazardous weather conditions. So,

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unfortunately during this week's
expedition, there were hazardous weather

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conditions like the footage you're
seeing here from earlier today on the

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research vessel 'Connecticut' that has
brought our team out of Stellwagen bank

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National Marine Sanctuary and not on the
sites of the shipwrecks, but a little bit

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closer to safety and closer to the coast.
This hasn't stopped our expedition team

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from wanting to show you their latest
research using some of the footage that

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they've collected throughout this
expedition season and to discuss the

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highlights and the most exciting things
that they found so far. So that's a

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little bit of an expedition update; with
that, I want to introduce you to Ben

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Haskell, the deputy superintendent of
Stellwagen Bank National Marine

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Sanctuary, who's going to provide you a
little bit more about the history of the

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shipwreck 'Portland'. Hi Ben!

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Hi Hannah, and
hello everybody out there, thanks for

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joining us tonight on this final
broadcast of our 2019 season. Before I

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give you a little overview of the
history of the Portland and it's sinking,

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I wanted to give a shout-out to our
sanctuary ambassadors out there who are

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helping with the various venues tonight,
so thank you very much for doing that. I

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also understand we have a special guest
at Cape Cod Museum of Natural History

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Dr. Richard Limeburner, who helped
discover the 'Portland' back in 1989 18

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1989. So beside me here is a beautiful
model of the Portland as she looked in

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her heyday, and as you can see she was a
side paddlewheel steamer that made the

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trip from Boston to Portland overnight. 
So the passengers would wake up the next

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morning at their destination, and they
would pay a whopping one dollar for that

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trip.

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So on the on the night of November 26,
1898,

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captain Hollis Blanchard made the
fateful decision to leave on time at 7

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p..m,
despite hearing that there might be a

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coastal storm coming up the coast
from the south. So, he wanted to get his

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passengers home to Portland after they
celebrated the Thanksgiving holiday in

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the Boston area. So he headed north from
Boston and the minute he turned the

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corner around Cape Anne, where Gloucester is,
he found himself in the teeth of a

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howling gale. It turned out it became known
as the Portland gale because of this

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tragedy, and he tried to make headway
into this storm for a few hours and then

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decided he needed to turn around and go
south where the wind's towards Cape Cod.

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So on the way somewhere south of
Gloucester, the ship was overcome by

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towering 30 and 40 foot waves that
started to tear apart the upper

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superstructure, the wheelhouse, tore off
the top of the smokestacks,

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and water started to pour into the
bottom of the hull of the ship

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and she sank with all hands on board.
Over a hundred ninety-two people, but of

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course we don't know how many exactly
because they didn't leave a passenger

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list on land. So, she now rests on the sea
floor of the sanctuary, she's our most

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iconic historic wreck, and she was listed
on the National Register of Historic

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Places along with several other wrecks
thanks to the hard work of Matthew

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Lawrence and Deborah Marx. Her
final resting place was not known for

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decades, until Arnie Carr and John Fish
came along and spent a good 10 years of

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their
own time and money searching for in

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Massachusetts Bay. And one of the clues
or aids that they use to help them

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pinpoint her location was the work the
oceanographic modeling work of Dr. Limeburner

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And they were able to use the bodies and records that came ashore on the Cape Cod beaches along with

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the time that the wristwatch is stopped on the bodies which ,was 9:30 it was either a.m. or p.m. And they were able to track back

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with that from that wreckage and time to
better pinpoint where they should search

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with side-scan sonar and finally John
Fish and Arnie Carr found an object that

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was large enough to be the Portland. They
put an ROV down on it, and

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unfortunately were not able to collect
enough data to actually pinpoint the

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identity as that being of the Portland.
So when I came to the sanctuary in 2000,

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I asked Arnie if he would share with me
the location of the Portland and he did.

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I then put together the first
expedition to the wreck in 2002 on this

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very research vessel with some of the
same crew, and we were able to use the

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best side scan and remotely operated
vehicle at the time to definitively show

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that it was in fact the Portland lying
there where John and Arnie thought it

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was. So she is now, as I said, our most
iconic wreck, and one of several that are

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listed on the National Register, and part
of NOAA's job is to document and protect

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historic resources but also bring the
stories alive to folks like you.

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So that's what we're doing on this this
expedition and live broadcast, so thanks

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for joining us and Hannah I will turn it
back over to you.

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Thank you Ben, and what

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a great overview of the Portland. The
next team member I'm going to introduce

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you to it studies the Portland as well
as other shipwrecks in Stellwagen Bank

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National Marine Sanctuary, including the
Palmer and the Crary. Dr. Kelvin Myers is

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a maritime archaeologist, and was the
lead maritime archaeologist

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on this expedition. I'm going to turn it
back over to Kelvin on the research

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vessel 'Connecticut' to tell us a little
bit more about his work on the project

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Hi Kelvin!

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Hey Hannah, thank you very much
and welcome to everybody tuning in.

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Welcome to the back of the RV
Connecticut on absolutely gorgeous night

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I can tell you for sure, though, last
night wasn't as gorgeous; the waves

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picked up, and I remember thinking
whether or not I was going to be thrown

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from my berth onto the floor which was
problematic because I was at the top berth,

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and so anyone below me would have
figured that out pretty fast. And this,

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morning, as I was thinking on that, I was
imagining what it must have been like a

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hundred and twenty-one years ago when
130 passengers went to sleep in one of

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514 berths on the Portland and somewhere
in the middle of the night, they woke up

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to 30-plus foot seas, and they didn't
make it home two days after Thanksgiving

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from Boston to Portland. They never got
to see their families. And one of my

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roles and responsibilities as a maritime
archaeologist is to understand that

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while I look at shipwrecks as the
material remains of the past, my ultimate

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responsibility is to give voice to those
people aboard the ship. And at that depth

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of the ship 80 fathoms below the sea and
Stellwagen bank National Marine

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Sanctuary, we need special equipment such
as the ROV Pixel behind me, which

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you'll hear more about later. But it
doesn't change that impact of seeing the

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bow come into view on the screen as
you're sitting 500 feet above and

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realizing this was that moment, resting
on the sea, that you have a glimpse a

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window into the past that very few have. And it's a privilege as you scroll, as you

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sweep back and you see the engines and
the paddle wheels, and wonder what

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exactly happened. Intimate artifacts
are there reminding you of the last meal

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that the passengers shared: cups and bowls...And our job is to put that together and

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to work as a team onboard the ship to
understand why people go out to sea and

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what risks they take: and it's not just
the Portland. One dramatic site that we

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are investigating is the Frank A. Palmer
and Louise B. Crary site: two coal schooners

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early 20th century in December 17th, 1902,
have been sailing up from Newport News,

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Virginia, bringing coal back up to New
England, and they needed to get to Boston.

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It was a classic horse race (boat race in
this case), for the first one to market set

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the price, and the consolation prize for
number two was a big drop-off. And so as

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they rounded Cape Cod and came into the
Massachusetts Bay, there was a stiff

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northwesterly-westerly breeze and they
chose different tacks with the Crary

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taking a port tack, or to the left, and
Palmer taking a starboard tack, or to the

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right, and when they came about, they set
a collision course. The right-of-way was to

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the Frank A Palmer but the mate in
charge of the Crary decided he could

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make it, he thought he could get ahead of
the bow, and so he took the wind. But he was

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wrong; a miscalculation caused the two to
go bow-to-bow and within minutes, they

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were at the bottom of Stellwagen Bank
National Marine Sanctuary. It's a

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dramatic picture even to today to see
them still interlocked in this embrace.

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Six died immediately, including the mate
who made the tragic decision, J.E. Smith.

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Fifteen survived and were on a lifeboat that sailed for four days, were rescued

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on December 21st. In those four days,
four succumbed to frostbite in the

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conditions. One drank the salt water and
thought he could make it back to shore:

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he did not. These are the stories that
are out there, and it's a privilege as a

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maritime archaeologists to go out there
with a team that we have assembled here

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who have a mission to bring these unique
artifacts from the depths all

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symbolically and literally through
technology, through 3D models, through

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virtual reality, that we were putting
together. These are also sites, not just

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sites of commemoration, but sites of life,
biological life, from the smallest to the

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highest apex predators all grow there. But fortunately for me as a cultural

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resource specialist, we have a biologist
leading the project. So Hannah, thank you

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for your time. I look forward to
questions a little bit later in the show,

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but I think we'll turn it back to you.

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Beautifully said Kelvin, you did a great

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job articulating that a tragedy can be
transformed into a great host for life.

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So this leads us into introducing the
principal investigator, Dr. Kirstin Meyer-Kaiser.

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Now she studies the biology and
the life that live on shipwrecks. So I'm

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gonna hand it back over to Kirsten to
tell us a little bit more about her

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research and how she studies the life on
shipwrecks like the Portland and the

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Palmer and the Crary. Hi Kirsten!

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Hi Hannah!
So, shipwrecks are isolated island-like

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habitats. Most shipwrecks are located in
the middle of sandy or muddy plains,

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which is absolutely the case for both of
the wrecks we've been investigating this

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year, the Portland and the Palmer and
Crary. This means that the wreck is the

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only solid object in that immediate area
it's the only hard-bottom habitat for

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organisms that need solid objects to
attach to. We call these animals sessile

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because they live in one place
throughout their entire adult life; they

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attach to a surface and stay there and
just filter the water to feed. Some

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examples include sponges
and anemones and hydroids which are

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actually the most common organisms on
both the Portland and the Palmer and

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Crary wrecks. When we were investigating the Palmer and Crary, I noticed that it had a

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really abundant sponge community, there's
actually numerous yellow bulbous sponges

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that are living on the rigging and on
the gunnel of those wrecks. And also some

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really beautiful white cup-shaped glass
sponges on that Palmer and Crary wreck. It

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also seems to have a little higher
species richness than the Portland, there

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were some things on the Palmer and Crary
that I did not observe on the Portland,

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for example, some large barnacles on the
stern of the Palmer. So it appears that

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there are some slight differences
between those two wrecks. It's

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interesting for me as a biologist to
analyze the differences between those

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wrecks because I can start to get a
handle of the connectivity between those

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different communities and the
populations of organisms on each of

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those sites. In addition, I'll be
comparing

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both of those wrecks to other wrecks
throughout the sanctuary and to natural

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hard-bottom habitats, these are boulder
reefs in the area. Along with the boulder

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reefs, the shipwrecks form an archipelago:
So a network of islands, where those

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sessile fauna can live. One of the things
we've actually been doing onboard the

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Connecticut is collecting multi-beam
sonar data in order to map the seafloor

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at very high resolution and identify new
shipwreck sites that we can then go

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investigate in the coming years. So,
there's a lot of interesting biology

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going on, and with that I will hand back
to you Hannah.

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Thank You Kirsten for the great
information about the biology of the

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wrecks and Stellwagen Bank National
Marine Sanctuary. Just to remind you all,

00:19:32.710 --> 00:19:36.610
their research, both the maritime
archaeology and the biology research

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taking place, is taking place over 400
feet deep within the sanctuary. So

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they're using some of the greatest
technology available to explore this

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place. So I'm going to send you over to a
video that goes into the marine

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technology used on this expedition.

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Technology allows us to explore places
that humans aren't equipped to go, like

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underwater. For this project, we're using
a custom underwater robot named Pixel to

00:20:13.350 --> 00:20:19.350
film the shipwrecks and collect samples
for our scientists. Pixel is a remotely

00:20:19.350 --> 00:20:27.330
operated vehicle, or ROV, equipped with
seven cameras and two samplers. GPS works

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on the surface, but it doesn't work
underwater. To find our way to the wreck,

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we use USBL, or ultra short baseline.
This technology uses sound waves to

00:20:41.550 --> 00:20:47.040
figure out where Pixel is in relation to
the wreck and our ship. In addition to

00:20:47.040 --> 00:20:56.940
USBL we also use acoustic sonar to help
us see through dark or murky waters. One

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of our main jobs is to create a 3D model
of the shipwreck: an important tool for

00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:08.580
scientists studying the wreck. To create
the models, we capture thousands of

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images and use sophisticated computer
software to recreate the ship's geometry.

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By comparing the new model every few
years, we can see how the wreck is

00:21:19.350 --> 00:21:24.540
collapsing naturally or being damaged by human activity over time.

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We're also collecting images to create
virtual reality movies during this

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expedition, which we will process and
share was ashore. VR is an incredible way

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to experience both the expedition and
diving underwater without getting wet. It's also

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another way to put the eyes and minds of
scientists, historians, and all of you, right there on the wreck.

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I hope you were able to gain a little bit more insight
on how our team has been exploring the

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seafloor this season. The next two people
I'm gonna introduce you to that are a

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part of the expedition team are Evan
Kovacs and Mike Skowronski. Now Evan is

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the expedition's cinematographer and
Mike is the ROV pilot. Both of them are

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also Co-designers of ROV Pixel, which you
saw in that video and what's behind them

00:22:19.529 --> 00:22:23.820
right now. So I'm gonna turn it over to
Evan to tell us a little bit more about

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the marine technology as well as what he
might have in store for 2020's expedition.

00:22:28.780 --> 00:22:30.920
Hey Evan!

00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.920
Hey Hannah, and hey everybody else out there.

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What I thought I'd do is let
Mike Skowronski, who's one of the chief

00:22:39.900 --> 00:22:43.109
designers of the vehicle and pilot and
engineer, tell us a little bit about the

00:22:43.109 --> 00:22:45.809
vehicle, and then I'll talk a little bit
about more about what we're gonna do

00:22:45.809 --> 00:22:51.629
with that information later. Hello and
good evening everyone, as to have a

00:22:51.629 --> 00:22:54.840
mention, we're gonna discuss a little bit of the technology of the vehicle we use to get

00:22:54.840 --> 00:22:59.460
down to the site and document the areas
we're looking at. One of the hardest

00:22:59.460 --> 00:23:03.239
things to do when you're underwater is
locate where the vehicle is so you can

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get to the site as quickly as possible.
On the surface it's nice and easy: ships

00:23:06.899 --> 00:23:10.259
have GPS it can find their way. It
doesn't really work that well below

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about 30 feet underwater.
So what we use is a system called a USBL

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acoustic tracking system, which sends
pings into the water,

00:23:18.869 --> 00:23:23.759
lets us locate exactly where the vehicle
is relative to the ship. From there we

00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:28.979
can find the site that we're looking for.
We also use forward-looking sonar that

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will allow us to see much farther than
we can see with the lights. The lighting

00:23:33.869 --> 00:23:37.320
system on the vehicle will only
penetrate about 20, maybe 30 feet into

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the water as well.
The sonar system can let us see out to

00:23:41.100 --> 00:23:45.630
well over a hundred feet, so that helps
us locate exactly where the wreck is and

00:23:45.630 --> 00:23:48.690
again, everything is about getting on
site as quickly as possible and knowing

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where we are so we can stay away from a
lot of obstacles likes nets and so forth,

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that can really be a hazard for us when
we're down there. So we also, for this

00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:02.779
particular project, had a last-minute
request to do some science sampling, and

00:24:02.779 --> 00:24:07.529
we ended up putting together a slurp
system, a suction system, so we could

00:24:07.529 --> 00:24:11.580
collect some science. And there's kind of
a weekend project that we put together

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from hardware store parts. Works quite
well, and we look forward to using that

00:24:17.340 --> 00:24:20.039
again next year.
I'll hand it over to Evan now and he can

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talk a little bit about the video system
on the vehicle and give you some details

00:24:23.399 --> 00:24:29.010
on that. So what we're doing is we
actually carry about seven cameras on

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here we've got high resolution still
cameras, 4k raw UHD cameras, and then a

00:24:35.639 --> 00:24:40.289
whole series of HD and 4k IP cameras, and
the IP camera is what we use for

00:24:40.289 --> 00:24:44.419
situational awareness essentially, but we
can also use them for collecting data.

00:24:44.419 --> 00:24:49.139
Situational awareness is basically...
With Mike as the as the pilot, he needs

00:24:49.139 --> 00:24:52.409
eyes everywhere, especially on the
shipwrecks up here which are just

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littered with debris and fishing
detritus and things of that nature. So at

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the end of the project, what we start to
do is we take all of the images, the

00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:05.490
video, and we process it into models. Part
of what we're hoping to do, and part of

00:25:05.490 --> 00:25:11.460
we're planning to do next year, is build
virtual reality...almost like virtual

00:25:11.460 --> 00:25:17.460
reality sets, if you will, but build
models and do live VR so that we can

00:25:17.460 --> 00:25:22.289
create a...basically create a video that'll
allow people to go and see the site in

00:25:22.289 --> 00:25:27.779
its entire context, which is important
for scientists and archeologists to be able

00:25:27.779 --> 00:25:32.010
to really understand how the site is as
a whole. Something that we're also going

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to do which is kind of unique for up
here is, Mike and I worked on a project to

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build an internal ROV to go inside
shipwrecks, In particular on the USS

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Arizona. So we're gonna apply some of
that technology, and we plan to try to

00:25:45.360 --> 00:25:49.110
get inside the Portland next year and
look at some of the internals there. Now,

00:25:49.110 --> 00:25:52.320
it's a very different site than the
Arizona, because it's

00:25:52.320 --> 00:25:57.330
it's so covered in nets and just broken
down in a different way, but we think we

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can do a...you know, a pretty good job of
getting in and trying to document some

00:26:01.410 --> 00:26:06.960
new and interesting things and really
put that entire model together. In

00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:11.190
addition, we're gonna go out and and look
at hopefully some of the sites that we

00:26:11.190 --> 00:26:14.400
found from the multi-beam surveys this
yea So next year is gonna be an

00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:17.610
exciting season and we can't wait to get
out there. But anyway, I think that's

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that's it for now so Hannah, I'll pass
it back to you thank you!

00:26:23.082 --> 00:26:24.450
Great, thank you

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so much Evan and Mike. I'm very excited
for 2020, that sounds like some very

00:26:29.190 --> 00:26:33.870
exciting things you're gonna be doing
with the new marine technology. So now,

00:26:33.870 --> 00:26:38.100
we're gonna bring together the entire
expedition team to answer your questions

00:26:38.100 --> 00:26:41.850
that you've been submitting online.
Please continue to submit as well, as

00:26:41.850 --> 00:26:46.500
I'll be scrolling through and addressing
those questions to our team. Just as a

00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:51.150
reminder, the team includes Ben Haskell,
the deputy superintendent from

00:26:51.150 --> 00:26:55.500
Stellwagen bank National Marine
Sanctuary, Dr. Kirsten Meyer-Kaiser, the

00:26:55.500 --> 00:27:00.810
biology lead and principal investigator,
Dr. Kelvin Meyers, who is the maritime

00:27:00.810 --> 00:27:05.700
archaeologist on the expedition, as well
as Evan Kovacs, the expedition's

00:27:05.700 --> 00:27:10.560
cinematographer, and Mike Skowronski, the
ROV pilot. So we're gonna bring them all

00:27:10.560 --> 00:27:13.980
together on the research vessel
'Connecticut' to address your questions.

00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:18.690
I've seen some amazing questions coming
in, especially from Clark middle school

00:27:18.690 --> 00:27:24.090
who tuned in earlier today and still had
tons of questions for the team. So I'm

00:27:24.090 --> 00:27:29.550
very excited to turn those questions
back over. The first one that I have from

00:27:29.550 --> 00:27:36.210
Clark middle is about these sessile
marine animals on the shipwrecks and why

00:27:36.210 --> 00:27:42.090
they prefer shipwrecks over natural hard
bottom surface areas. So Kirsten I think

00:27:42.090 --> 00:27:45.600
you could take that away.

00:27:45.600 --> 00:27:48.480
I love questions from Clark middle school, you

00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:53.640
guys rock! So, sessile organisms, the game is all

00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:59.490
about filter feeding. When your food is
small particles in the water, you need to

00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:05.090
be exposed to as much of the water per
unit time as possible.

00:28:05.090 --> 00:28:10.760
means you want to get into a faster
current, and so shipwrecks offer a really

00:28:10.760 --> 00:28:15.170
good advantage for filter-feeding
because the structure stands up really

00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:20.960
high off of the seafloor, higher than
you're usually going to find for just a

00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.710
boulder. Especially in the case of the
Portland, it stands up really high off

00:28:24.710 --> 00:28:29.720
the seafloor. And so, a lot of times I'll
see the sessile fauna like the anemones

00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.530
and the sponges up higher on the
shipwreck because that's where the

00:28:33.530 --> 00:28:39.080
current is faster. Generally speaking, if
you are close to the seafloor, there's

00:28:39.080 --> 00:28:42.920
some friction between the water and the
sediment, it's called the benthic

00:28:42.920 --> 00:28:46.610
boundary layer, and so the current is
slower the closer you are to the

00:28:46.610 --> 00:28:50.270
sediment. So the higher you up you can
get, the faster the current is going to

00:28:50.270 --> 00:28:54.260
be, the more particulate food particles
are going to be brought past your

00:28:54.260 --> 00:28:59.180
location per unit time, and so you can
feed a lot better. So, the sessile

00:28:59.180 --> 00:29:03.020
organisms really enjoy being exposed to
that fast current, which sometimes is

00:29:03.020 --> 00:29:07.298
more possible on shipwrecks than on the
boulder reefs.

00:29:07.300 --> 00:29:10.100
Thank You Kristen, that's fascinating!

00:29:10.100 --> 00:29:14.540
The next question we have
comes from Maxwell from Florida, and it's

00:29:14.540 --> 00:29:19.490
geared towards Mike and Evan, and it's
about the ROV design, and the question

00:29:19.490 --> 00:29:25.720
was "How was it designed, and was
it inspired by WALL-E?

00:29:26.050 --> 00:29:30.500
Question for Mike and Evan, how was the
ROV designed and was it inspired by

00:29:30.500 --> 00:29:39.080
WALL-E? No, but good question! So, the ROV
actually evolved; Devin and I had done

00:29:39.080 --> 00:29:45.140
several projects where we were having to
cobble together, using vehicles of

00:29:45.140 --> 00:29:48.590
opportunity basically, just some
available ROV and then put all this gear

00:29:48.590 --> 00:29:52.970
on it, and so one day was decided that we
should just...you know, basically build a

00:29:52.970 --> 00:29:57.860
purpose-built vehicles such as Pixel
right now to do exactly this kind of

00:29:57.860 --> 00:30:02.090
work. This is what it does, this is what
it's meant for. And one of the other

00:30:02.090 --> 00:30:05.300
things that we really wanted to do is we
wanted to...wanted to make something that

00:30:05.300 --> 00:30:09.710
was a little fun, we wanted to make it
like a character and...you know give it a

00:30:09.710 --> 00:30:13.940
little bit of...well, a lot of times we do documentaries,
and we wanted it to almost be a

00:30:13.940 --> 00:30:18.770
character in the documentary. And I
figured if my son Jamie likes it, then a

00:30:18.770 --> 00:30:20.570
lot of other kids out there will like it, and

00:30:20.570 --> 00:30:23.820
you know, that was some of the
inspiration.

00:30:25.900 --> 00:30:27.320
That's great, and I do have

00:30:27.320 --> 00:30:31.940
to agree that pixel is rather cute. We
have another question coming in from

00:30:31.940 --> 00:30:36.440
Falmouth High School, and it's about the
ghost nets that they've seen on the ROV

00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:41.990
footage, and a question about why we
aren't removing these ghost nets from

00:30:41.990 --> 00:30:43.780
the shipwreck.

00:30:44.860 --> 00:30:49.240
It's a Ben question, the
question is why not remove ghost nets

00:30:49.250 --> 00:30:57.110
from a shipwreck? Removing ghost nets
from a shipwreck is an extremely

00:30:57.110 --> 00:31:03.890
hazardous thing to do for the people
involved and for the for the technology

00:31:03.890 --> 00:31:09.920
involved. Like, it would probably involve
an ROV that's got cutters, heavy-duty

00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:16.610
cutters on it, and the ROV could easily
get entangled. If divers were moving it,

00:31:16.610 --> 00:31:21.230
they could get entangled and shoot to
the surface and that would be a bad

00:31:21.230 --> 00:31:28.790
thing. So it's a very hazardous, very
expensive undertaking, and rarely is it

00:31:28.790 --> 00:31:32.230
worth the risk.

00:31:34.690 --> 00:31:40.130
Thank You Ben. We have another question
from Clark middle, and it's about the

00:31:40.130 --> 00:31:44.960
merchandise and artifacts that were on
the Portland; the forty five thousand

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:51.700
dollars worth of merchandise and any of
the artifacts: did those ever wash ashore?

00:31:52.420 --> 00:31:57.280
Calvin, the question is "there were forty
five thousand dollars worth of

00:31:57.280 --> 00:32:03.160
merchandise on the Portland and
artifacts, have they ever washed ashore?"

00:32:10.450 --> 00:32:20.080
So, Portland sank at 9:30 on November 27th, and soon thereafter, later in the evening,

00:32:20.080 --> 00:32:25.450
both bodies and some of the artifacts
from the Portland started to wash ashore

00:32:25.450 --> 00:32:31.560
down in Provincetown, along Cape Cod, and
were discovered and recorded and

00:32:31.560 --> 00:32:39.520
actually, these pieces of evidence were
used to locate the resting place of the

00:32:39.520 --> 00:32:45.550
Portland by...it was actually a
combination between two explorers Arnie

00:32:45.550 --> 00:32:51.490
Carr and John Fish, as well as going and talking to a Woods Hole

00:32:51.490 --> 00:32:57.940
Oceanographer, Dr Limeburner. And
he calculated the currents based on that

00:32:57.940 --> 00:33:02.050
time of 9:30 a.m., and we know that's
roughly when it went down because that's

00:33:02.050 --> 00:33:10.210
when the watches and and the bodies that
washed up stopped. So you have that we'd

00:33:10.210 --> 00:33:17.320
called that you know time after which
the sinking occurred so yes, they did, and

00:33:17.320 --> 00:33:25.820
they actually used that to relocate or
locate the Portland.

00:33:25.820 --> 00:33:30.220
Great, thank you so much.
The last question that we're gonna ask

00:33:30.220 --> 00:33:35.440
the team for this program is about all
of your careers and what led you to

00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:39.840
decide the pathway that you all took.

00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:42.430
Alright, the question is for each of us

00:33:42.430 --> 00:33:47.620
about our careers and "how did we decide
on the pathway we took?" So, let's go down

00:33:47.620 --> 00:33:53.950
the line starting with Calvin. I will try
to keep this short and say it was a

00:33:53.950 --> 00:33:57.580
windy path.
I'm originally from out west. I grew up

00:33:57.580 --> 00:34:04.600
in Montana State, not known for its
particular coastlines, but I fell in

00:34:04.600 --> 00:34:09.610
love with the sea at an early age, as well as with
history. I got into scuba diving, and I

00:34:09.610 --> 00:34:13.870
found a project where I could volunteer
over in Israel at an ancient 1st century

00:34:13.870 --> 00:34:20.590
B.C. Harbor, just north of Tel Aviv, and
when I was working there I

00:34:20.590 --> 00:34:23.230
I didn't know what I was doing, I was
told what to do, and I did it. And

00:34:23.230 --> 00:34:26.980
suddenly, this Roman oil lamp fell into
my hand, and the pure thrill of

00:34:26.980 --> 00:34:30.310
connection, and then followed immediately
by the moments of terror realizing I

00:34:30.310 --> 00:34:35.200
wasn't qualified to hold this. But I
wanted to become qualified, and so when I

00:34:35.200 --> 00:34:43.390
came back, went to school and here we are,
and I couldn't be happier with it. I love

00:34:43.390 --> 00:34:50.290
the color turquoise, and so that's kept
me engaged but seriously, I've always

00:34:50.290 --> 00:34:56.710
wanted to be a marine biologist and just
pursued that and became a scuba diver,

00:34:56.710 --> 00:35:02.290
and that was that opened some doors,
because a lot of marine labs need scuba

00:35:02.290 --> 00:35:09.900
divers. So I used that to get some jobs,
and then eventually I ended up with NOAA

00:35:09.900 --> 00:35:15.450
twenty-five years ago, and I have
absolutely no regrets. It's a great

00:35:15.450 --> 00:35:21.130
organization to work for, and I've been
at Stellwagen Bank sanctuary for the last 20

00:35:21.130 --> 00:35:29.530
years. So...it's been great. I originally
come from the Midwest, so I grew up on a

00:35:29.530 --> 00:35:33.970
lot of inland lakes, but I always knew
that I was fascinated by the ocean from

00:35:33.970 --> 00:35:39.730
a very young age. So when it came time
for college, I chose a school where I

00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:43.600
could major in zoology, study of animals,
which I had been told was a good

00:35:43.600 --> 00:35:47.710
springboard for getting into marine
biology. I always knew that was my

00:35:47.710 --> 00:35:53.440
direction. After college, I lived in
Germany for a year and there I was

00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:57.850
introduced to analyzing photographs of
the seafloor, and I just became really

00:35:57.850 --> 00:36:02.140
fascinated by what was living on the
hard objects. In this case, they were

00:36:02.140 --> 00:36:07.050
random rocks that had been dropped off
on the seafloor by melting icebergs. And

00:36:07.050 --> 00:36:12.760
so that eventually led me to focus on
Island-like habitats, and I got involved

00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:18.160
with the project investigating
shipwrecks in graduate school, and have

00:36:18.160 --> 00:36:23.730
never really looked back. This is the
type of research that I enjoy the most.

00:36:23.730 --> 00:36:31.570
I wanted to be rich, and I went into ocean-
ah no...not at all actually. I started off

00:36:31.570 --> 00:36:36.799
as an actor I was in the theater. Ever since I was a kid, about fifteen,

00:36:36.799 --> 00:36:42.979
sixteen, I was fascinated by scuba diving
and actually diving shipwrecks. And most

00:36:42.979 --> 00:36:46.549
of my diving career had been involved
with diving shipwrecks. And then around

00:36:46.549 --> 00:36:51.799
2001-2002, I started getting into
underwater documentary, and I worked my

00:36:51.799 --> 00:36:58.039
way up as a cameraman, grip, lighting, all
of that. And then in 2005, I met the folks

00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:03.499
from Woods Hole Oceanographic, and I
started doing a lot more. We're still

00:37:03.499 --> 00:37:07.400
doing science communication, documentary,
filming, but also a lot of engineering.

00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.900
And I had a bunch of ideas that were
probably pretty bad, but people and

00:37:11.900 --> 00:37:16.519
mentors like Mike said "No they're not
bad, let me help you!"...and that kind of

00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.019
brought us to where we were today you
know...it's just a whole whole mix of

00:37:21.019 --> 00:37:24.859
great circumstances and people along the
way. And it's always the people that

00:37:24.859 --> 00:37:29.260
really make it make it worthwhile.

00:37:29.260 --> 00:37:32.869
So I was a gentleman farmer operating an

00:37:32.869 --> 00:37:39.170
organic farm and doing engineering work
on the side, in the aviation industry,

00:37:39.170 --> 00:37:44.479
and came across an article about a
gentleman named Pat Hickey and his 600th

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dive in Alvin, the submersible over at
the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution,

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and somehow sent my resume in and three
weeks later I was on a ship for the next

00:37:56.209 --> 00:38:02.269
four months or so learning to dive Alvin.
And that was about 10 years ago, almost

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11 years ago now, and I've been kinda doing that ever since. Ran into Evan some time around 2009-'10.

00:38:10.540 --> 00:38:16.240
I ended up out on a project with him on the
Titanic, and we started talking about

00:38:16.249 --> 00:38:22.069
some of the somewhat wild ideas that he
had at the time and decided that some of

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them we could actually probably do. And
that's kind of...he and I've been working

00:38:25.339 --> 00:38:30.109
on these things, and one of those
culminated in creating Pixel here to do

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projects like this.

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I don't know about
all of the viewers out there, but I'm

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sure inspired by the variety of pathways
you all took to get where you are today,

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and to put on a fantastic program that
we ran today. Your research is great, I'm

00:38:47.640 --> 00:38:53.010
super excited for 2020, and I hope the
viewers are as well. With all of that, I

00:38:53.010 --> 00:38:56.760
want to say goodbye one last time to all
of you on board the research vessel

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'Connecticut', and thank you so much for
all of your hard work this season. So

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we'll send them off now, and with that, I
want to thank all of you, all of the

00:39:08.130 --> 00:39:11.610
viewers, for tuning in and exploring
Stellwagen Bank National Marine

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Sanctuary with us. This is the last live
program for the 2019 season, but we'll be

00:39:17.460 --> 00:39:21.990
back again in 2020 to share more of the
exciting things that Evan had mentioned

00:39:21.990 --> 00:39:26.460
earlier with our new marine technology.
if you're interested in following along

00:39:26.460 --> 00:39:30.840
this expedition and other explorations of
national marine sanctuaries, follow the

00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:36.760
hashtag "#SanctuariesLIVE" on our social
media channels. Additionally, our website

00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:40.680
will host the broadcasts that were
streamed today and throughout this week.

00:39:40.680 --> 00:39:44.550
Currently, the only one that's up there
is the Facebook live that was the

00:39:44.550 --> 00:39:48.810
Portland memorial ceremony that was
recorded on Tuesday, but all of the other

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interactions will be up shortly so stay
tuned for those. And we really hope you

00:39:54.390 --> 00:39:59.460
tune in again, whether it's on social
media, or stay tuned for an announcement

00:39:59.460 --> 00:40:04.470
about how to connect in 2020. From all of
us here at the National Marine Sanctuary

00:40:04.470 --> 00:40:09.300
system, Woods Hole Oceanographic
Institution, and the Inner Space Center,

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thank you for exploring with us.

